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title: "TLC Meeting - September 28, 2023"
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linkTitle: "TLC - September 28, 2023"
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date: 2023-09-28
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Meetings are happening on the `#selenium-tlc` channel on [Selenium Slack](https://selenium.dev/support).
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To add items to the agenda for the next meeting, please see our public [Rolling Agenda](https://docs.google.com/document/d/18InWY44S0C_ECkRkRo8GKictu8BEtsahRsFh17tmUR0/edit#)
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The next meeting will be Thursday, October 12 at 0700 Pacific / 1000 Eastern / 1500 UK / 1930 India.
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### Participation
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* [diemol]
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* [harsha509]
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* [pujagani]
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* [titusfortner]
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## Agenda
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* Ticket Status
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* CDP support
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* CI Health
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* Membership Updates
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* Open items
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* Proposals/Decisions
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* Selenium 4.12.0
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* Selenium 5
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* Projects in Progress
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* Backlog
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***
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### Ticket Status
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* 190 open Issues; last meeting: 169
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* 51 outstanding PRs; last meeting: 42
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### CDP support
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* v117 Released with 4.13
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* v118 Early release Oct 4; Fully release Oct 10
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Discussed whether we should log incompatible versions as Debug or Warning. Only makes
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sense to do warnings if we get releases out on time, so if we can't, we should change.
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Discussed that we need to implement more BiDi. Interesting chart for the progress
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being made by Google & Mozilla: https://puppeteer.github.io/ispuppeteerwebdriverbidiready/
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### CI Health
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* .NET failures (turned out to be caching related)
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* JS atom test looks related to Firefox change, investigating
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### Membership Updates
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Nikolay Borisenko as a new contributor!
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### [Open items](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/labels/A-needs%20new%20owner)
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None
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### Proposals/Decisions
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[List of Needs-Decision Issues](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/labels/A-needs%20decision)
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Discussed grid logging again, since client does not have ability to get any information about
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the grid commands or the driver commands. Biggest issue is that there is no way to split out
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logging for each session without a lot of effort, so agreed (again) not to do this.
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### [4.14 Milestone](https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/milestone/15)
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Discussed whether we wanted to release v118 in a patch release or with 4.14 or as patch releases, depending
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on how much work we'd be able to do. Goal is 4.14
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### Selenium 5 Conversation
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Did not discuss during this meeting
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### Projects in Progress
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Did not discuss during this meeting
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### Backlog
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Did not discuss during this meeting
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[harsha509]: https://github.com/harsha509/
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[titusfortner]: https://github.com/titusfortner/
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[jimevans]: https://github.com/jimevans/
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[pujagani]: https://github.com/pujagani/

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