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#137 Restoring files from backup clone to non-equal partition.

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2020-07-04
2020-06-15
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I have recently had a series of computer crashes, but through it all I managed to clone my Linux mint /home directory before the original partition was wiped out. Now I have a clone, that Clonezilla produced and that looks nothing like the original. If I even have a clone. I'm sort of guessing, definitely hoping. I can't just copy the stuff back because Clonezilla has it in a proprietary format which means I need Clonezilla to deliver it back to me.

So the new partition (that lives where the old one was wiped out) isn't as large as before. So I can't just restore the files with Clonezilla, while Clonezilla demands an equal partition size. Or am I wrong about that? I have been afraid to test the hypothesis.

In addition, I am having great difficulty navigating clonezilla's menu. The difference between working between devices and working between partitions or volumes isn't clear to me, especially the way it is phrased in the menu. Since Clonezilla copies blocks, could the menu offer to clone "all partitions on a drive", or "a single partition"? This language would be much clearer and I would know almost without thought what I needed to do.

Another problem I have with navigation is that I don't know which of my choices I need to make before I finally get to the "clone or restore?" option. I think that Clonezilla would be much easier to use if the "clone or restore?" choice were offered first, before naming the source and the target.

Also, some different language is needed to identify which is the original drive and which is the backup. The word "repository" came up while I used Clonezilla, to identify where the clone was saved to, and that anchor was very helpful. Asking us to identify which drive we are going to "copy to or from" boggles my parser. Please find some clearer language. The words "source" and "target" don't work, if clonezilla doesn't know yet which operation we want, because it depends upon whether I am backingup or restoring. If Clonezilla asked us to tell it which operation we wanted - to clone or to restore - then it asking about the source or target would be asking which holds the clone, and which is the partition in which the files reside for use. If I am cloning (creating the backup files), then the source is the original partition with files, and the target is where the files are to be backedup. If I am restoring, then the source is the partition with the clone, and the target is the partition where I want the files to be written (restored). If you want less relative designations, "source" and "repository", or "original source" and "backup clone" could work. The source is where the original OS and the original user files reside. The repository is where the clone resides. Clear enough.

I say all of this because I have been baffled and obstructed by the menu selections. I have looked up the instructions on forums, including this one, and have followed the instructions as well as I could, and can't even figure out whose fault it is that I am not getting my files restored. Probably it is the fault of my machine configuration, but having a clear sequence of menu options, that begin with the question "backup or restore?" would eliminate plenty of confusion.

Back to my original problem, I am guessing I need to adjust my partitions to equal each other, an act I am afraid to perform, and which is not your problem. But if there is a way to write blocks back from the backup to the new partition, without over writing active blocks on my new partition, that would be awesome. But only Clonezilla knows. Thanks.

Discussion

  • Mystical Atheist

    Moreover, if Clonezilla did not force me to "restore" to a partition on a different drive from the drive on which the clone is stored, I could designate a partition on my huge 6 terrabyte drive, where the clone is stored, and "restore" to it. Then copying back to my active /home drive would not be so difficult. I do have some other blank drives, so I think I'll try to fool Clonezilla into "restoring" to another drive.

     
  • Mystical Atheist

    Hi! Ok, so I have tried the above strategy. I have used every menu combination I could think of, and designated both the clone and the empty partition as "/home/partimage", and no matter what I do, I am never invited to "restore" my files. I am flummoxed.

    Since i am doing this in Live mode, I cannot give you screen shots. Otherwise I would show you how confusing the instructions are. I know you don't get paid much, if at all. But now I am stuck, my files all locked up in data blocks that I can't use. I need Clonezilla to help me.

    When I am selecting the partitions to use, I don't see anything with a name that a clone should have. so maybe I never cloned my /home directory in the first place. that would be a loss.

    When Clonezilla asks me to designate the "/home/partimage" I don't know if you want the files I am saving or the place I am dropping them, and I don't know if you want the partition with the clone or the partition in which the clone will rebuild my data files. This is confusing because so much else is confusing.

    From what I can tell (the splash screen mentions you are from Taiwan) you are more accustomed to Chinese grammar and ways of thinking. That's to be expected. But by the time your chinese is translated into english, the sense it makes has been lost. You need a competent English Technical writer, and I would be happy to help.

     
  • Steven Shiau

    Steven Shiau - 2020-07-04

    Some step-by-step docs you can refer:
    https://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live-doc.php
    They cover most of the scenarios. Of course, there are always some more different ways to use Clonezilla.
    "You need a competent English Technical writer, and I would be happy to help. " -> Sure. Docs and patche for language file are welcome. Thank you very much.

    Steven

     

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