"Save a seat for AT&T too, while we're on the subject!!"
I meant to upload this back in late July, but a lot things started coming up around that time going into August - Hurricane knocking on Florida's door, National Guard getting called up, dog dying, more Guard drills... Ugh...
Also, oh shit, Ren in actual, normal clothes.
So, to start with, back in early July, I get a notification from Patreon telling me to verify my identity, or my funds can no longer be cashed out again. I have bills that depend on that money, so, I had to bend at the knee and give them a photo of my ID, AND some of my peace of mind, as Patreon has had it's data breaches in the past. If you have even one breach, and I had to submit PII to your site? You've lost my fucking trust. I'm sure a lot of you can relate when I say I value my privacy and identity, and accept that it may already be floating around somewhere out there on the dark web as we speak, but this, does not help. Patreon has become yet another website I need to monitor for breaches, and in this case, one I won't be using anymore. I'll be unpublishing my page later today.
Sure, they say they delete those files after an X amount of time, but McDonalds also says they use real, white-meat chicken in their tasty nuggets.
Patreon has also been doing some knee-bending of their own too, bending to the people demanding we submit a copy of our ID in order to access a site with adult content. I can understand wanting to make sure adult content is kept away from minors, as that is a royal shitstorm NOBODY wants to deal with, but if you start to require that we surrender our anonymity on the internet for this safety, and you're not a bank, insurance company or government agency? Especially if you have had breaches in the past? Sorry, but, go fuck yourself. These pop-ups we get when accessing a site with 18+ content to verify we're of legal age or not is far from perfect and hardly foolproof of course, but so far, it's the best at not only ensuring we stay anonymous, but also a legal cover-your-ass for the site-owners.
There's also the possibility some kid can just grab their parent's ID, and since they'd obviously know how to use a phone and computer these days, upload that, and so if a data breach DOES happen to that site, their parents' identities are in danger. Stuff like this acts like kids aren't these crafty little gremlins who will try and find ANY way out of or around a situation that inconveniences them. There are way more losses than gains here.
This isn't helped that Patreon is beginning to overstep boundaries on content, and when they pushed out a controversial TOS update they failed to elaborate on, which led a lot of people to believe they were pulling a Tumblr and banning adult content. This only seemed to apply to actual photography and video content rather than fictional, illustrated media, ie. 2D or 3D, etcetera. But too late, the damage has been done. Of course, the fact that they're even going this route means it is a matter of time before they ultimately ban it all, whether it's fake or not.
So, I'm moving unto SubscribeStar for the time being, as they know to draw the line between fiction and non-fiction, porn being porn and whatever I draw being whatever it is. https://subscribestar.adult/renthedragonofficial
I am tracking that Subscribestar does give some folks issues as far as payment goes, and I am also looking for an additional way to get content to you all for supporting me. I'm entertaining Ko-Fi and Gumroad, but I am still doing research on these platforms, trying to see how other artists go about it first.
Also, a BIG thank you to all who supported me on Patreon, it helped a lot!
I meant to upload this back in late July, but a lot things started coming up around that time going into August - Hurricane knocking on Florida's door, National Guard getting called up, dog dying, more Guard drills... Ugh...
Also, oh shit, Ren in actual, normal clothes.
So, to start with, back in early July, I get a notification from Patreon telling me to verify my identity, or my funds can no longer be cashed out again. I have bills that depend on that money, so, I had to bend at the knee and give them a photo of my ID, AND some of my peace of mind, as Patreon has had it's data breaches in the past. If you have even one breach, and I had to submit PII to your site? You've lost my fucking trust. I'm sure a lot of you can relate when I say I value my privacy and identity, and accept that it may already be floating around somewhere out there on the dark web as we speak, but this, does not help. Patreon has become yet another website I need to monitor for breaches, and in this case, one I won't be using anymore. I'll be unpublishing my page later today.
Sure, they say they delete those files after an X amount of time, but McDonalds also says they use real, white-meat chicken in their tasty nuggets.
Patreon has also been doing some knee-bending of their own too, bending to the people demanding we submit a copy of our ID in order to access a site with adult content. I can understand wanting to make sure adult content is kept away from minors, as that is a royal shitstorm NOBODY wants to deal with, but if you start to require that we surrender our anonymity on the internet for this safety, and you're not a bank, insurance company or government agency? Especially if you have had breaches in the past? Sorry, but, go fuck yourself. These pop-ups we get when accessing a site with 18+ content to verify we're of legal age or not is far from perfect and hardly foolproof of course, but so far, it's the best at not only ensuring we stay anonymous, but also a legal cover-your-ass for the site-owners.
There's also the possibility some kid can just grab their parent's ID, and since they'd obviously know how to use a phone and computer these days, upload that, and so if a data breach DOES happen to that site, their parents' identities are in danger. Stuff like this acts like kids aren't these crafty little gremlins who will try and find ANY way out of or around a situation that inconveniences them. There are way more losses than gains here.
This isn't helped that Patreon is beginning to overstep boundaries on content, and when they pushed out a controversial TOS update they failed to elaborate on, which led a lot of people to believe they were pulling a Tumblr and banning adult content. This only seemed to apply to actual photography and video content rather than fictional, illustrated media, ie. 2D or 3D, etcetera. But too late, the damage has been done. Of course, the fact that they're even going this route means it is a matter of time before they ultimately ban it all, whether it's fake or not.
So, I'm moving unto SubscribeStar for the time being, as they know to draw the line between fiction and non-fiction, porn being porn and whatever I draw being whatever it is. https://subscribestar.adult/renthedragonofficial
I am tracking that Subscribestar does give some folks issues as far as payment goes, and I am also looking for an additional way to get content to you all for supporting me. I'm entertaining Ko-Fi and Gumroad, but I am still doing research on these platforms, trying to see how other artists go about it first.
Also, a BIG thank you to all who supported me on Patreon, it helped a lot!
Category Artwork (Digital) / General Furry Art
Species Dragon (Other)
Size 1900 x 1712px
File Size 5.76 MB
Gumroad is not your friend, either, unfortunately.
https://help.gumroad.com/article/15.....t-content.html
https://help.gumroad.com/article/15.....t-content.html
If memory serves Ko-Fi has also been fucking over artists too, lately, although the exact rationale I have yet to get a finger on the pulse of, and it may be fetish-specific (feral, incest, non-con, gore, so on so on) rather than generalised NSFW. Check their ToS/CoC just in case to make sure nobody can screw you over with a report.
Yeah, the war against NSFW stuff is absolute hell. Big banks and cards cans just decide on a whim they won't allow X site to have their stuff processed, and has said sites randomly bending over backward to appease them. It actively sucks, and I feel Patreon has their terms as vague as that in order to try and 'trick' them into believing it's all of it, while still trying to keep their core audience sustained for that little bit longer. But, it still sucks and Gumroad got hit by it too. Substar was at least created literally because Pateron did the NSFW thing though, so here's hoping they don't bend the knee at any point because it's literally their bushiness model XD.
In terms of Pateron though, part of the reason I thinkkk they ask for that stuff is government mandates? Since it's considered an income source you need to give it your stuff so they can send things to your government about how much you're making (same reason paypal needs your stuff if you intake $500+ dollars through their services like that, it crosses some sort of threshold that means the US gov will now monitor it and they need your personal info now).
But yeah, they've unfortunately proven they won't handle that information well, so here's hoping substar works better for you! I know I've seen many jump over to it and am supporting a few over there, so think it should hopefully do you good! :3 (Ko-Fi seems good to, from what I've seen of it).
In terms of Pateron though, part of the reason I thinkkk they ask for that stuff is government mandates? Since it's considered an income source you need to give it your stuff so they can send things to your government about how much you're making (same reason paypal needs your stuff if you intake $500+ dollars through their services like that, it crosses some sort of threshold that means the US gov will now monitor it and they need your personal info now).
But yeah, they've unfortunately proven they won't handle that information well, so here's hoping substar works better for you! I know I've seen many jump over to it and am supporting a few over there, so think it should hopefully do you good! :3 (Ko-Fi seems good to, from what I've seen of it).
Yeah I carved all my adult works from the bi P recently cashed out an now won't post adultt there at all to keep my pay outs, small as they may be. My thing was a tip jar anyway just the full rez there.
Getting harder and harder to make a living with art with crack downs on NSFW, AI and all this nonsense.
Getting harder and harder to make a living with art with crack downs on NSFW, AI and all this nonsense.
to be fair it's good that you're getting off that slimepit of a website, this isn't the only issue they've had in the past as my post here explaining what happened to the "slugbox project" shows, https://www.furaffinity.net/view/37278126/
Honestly, Patreon has always been shit and added basically negligible value for creators using it (especially considering all the other fuckery they've inflicted on creators). Yes, people can send you money through it, but they can send you money any number of other ways too, and Patreon takes a bigger cut than just putting a PayPal "Donate" button or something.
I've heard far fewer complaints about SubscribeStar's policies and security, and if memory serves, they take less of a cut, so it's sounding like a good call. My broke ass is gonna have to stick to faving your work here, though.
I've heard far fewer complaints about SubscribeStar's policies and security, and if memory serves, they take less of a cut, so it's sounding like a good call. My broke ass is gonna have to stick to faving your work here, though.
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