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Dear Leena

Sorry for my delayed answer concerning the settings and the import from the
CVS repository.
I tried it again and I had no problems to connect to the project's CVS from
my Eclipse.
I tried in a fresh workbench, therefore, I had absolutely no presetted data
which could disturb the creation of the CVS Repository Location. Here's the
information I provided:
 Host: cvs.sourceforge.net
 Repository path: /cvsroot/vif
 User: anonymous
 No Password is needed for anonymous checkout.

I found a better way to import code form CVS then I discribed in my mail
from 2004-10-11.
It's far better to use the import wizard for an initial CVS checkout.
Here are the steps needed to do that:
1. Call File->Import... to display the import wizard.
2. Select "Checkout Projects from CVS" as import source. -> Next
3. Select the repository location you created already (i.e.
:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/vif).  -> Next
4. Use an existing module to import: Select one of the projects displayed in
the list. (Remember the name of the project you selected) -> Next
5. Choose "Check out as a project configured using the New Project
Wizard" -> Next
6. Choose HEAD to import from. -> Finish
You're now asked for some information to create the appropriate project to
import the data from the CVS.
7. If you import a Java Project, you have to select the Java Project
izard.  -> Next
8. As project name you enter the name of the project you selected for
import.  -> Finish

Hope that works in your workspace as smoothly as in mine.

Benno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vif...@li...
> [mailto:vif...@li...]On Behalf Of Leena
> Kulkarni
> Sent: Dienstag, 30. November 2004 04:02
> To: vif...@li...
> Subject: [Vif-devel] RE: Update
>
>
> Hello Benno,
>
> Good Morning!
> Did you get a chance to confirm the repository
> settings?
>
> Regards,
> Leena
> > > 5. The repository addition not going smooth at
> > all. I
> > > tried re-doing it all. Few inconsistent errors
> > > occured.
> > I don't understand this.
> > I'll check the settings again and will inform you
> > about my findings.
>
>
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Hello Benno,

Good Morning!
Did you get a chance to confirm the repository
settings?

Regards,
Leena
> > 5. The repository addition not going smooth at
> all. I
> > tried re-doing it all. Few inconsistent errors
> > occured.
> I don't understand this.
> I'll check the settings again and will inform you
> about my findings.



		
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Hello

I've just release Version 0.6.4 of the VIF application.

Here's the list of changes:

Changes to Release 0.6.5
========================
Features added
- Added functionality to make and handle private discussion groups.
- Added list displaying all participants of a discussion group.


Framework 0.9.4
===============
Features added
- Extended servlet framework to allow for cookieless session tracking.
- Changed VSys for that framework can be used as persistency layer only,
  i.e. without servlet part.
- Added method PersistencyManager.reset() to allow changing of the database
during runtime.
- Added alternative model (e.g. lightweight model) creation and handling.
- Added functionality for SQL SELECT UNION queries and other SQL Set
operations.
- Extended domain object framework:
  -- Nested queries can be defined with placeholders where domain objects
can be filled in.
  -- Added template attribute to create more complex virtual columns.
  -- Added hidden attribute with regard to the SQL Set operations.
- Extended documentation about the domain object framework with descriptions
  of the new features.

Note for the installation:
I had to change the structure of the data model (added an addition field to
tblGroup).
To adjust for such changes, you have to run the scripts Update-Rel0.6.5.bat
(Windows) or Update-Rel0.6.5.sh (Linux) (see
http://vif.sourceforge.net/InstallAndRun.html).

Regards,
Benno Luthiger

_______________________________________________________________________

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Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich
CH-8092 Zurich

Tel: +41 1 632 57 65
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Dear Leena

I hope I can successfully answer all your questions ;-)

> 1. When Im creating projects VIF, VIF Test and so on,
> under every project the 'JRE System Library' is
> getting created which has jars under it like rt.jar
> etc.
> Do they get created on your Eclipse too? Do you keep
> them as they are? OR map them/specify them in build
> path etc so that all the five projects do not have to
> contain them?
Yes, every Java project needs the rt.jar in it, i.e. on the build path. The
projects do not contain the rt.jar, instead they reference it. Because each
project needs such a reference, different projects in your workspace can
reference different runtime libraries.


> 2.
> >>It"s a good idea to use a workspace separate of your Eclipse
installation.
> Can you please explain why?
When I startet to use Eclipse I used the default configuration too. That
went fine till I wanted to upgrade Eclipse. What's the easieast was to
upgrade Eclipse? You simply throw away the old installation and install the
new Eclipse at the old place. But now, what's with your workbench. That's
when I found out the -data option for the Eclipse startup that made a clear
separation of workspace and Eclipse installation possible.

However, moving around your workspace should not be a big issue, because the
workspace internal references are relative. Therefore it should not be a
problem to move your workspace out of the Eclipse installation and to
reference it in further Eclipse sessions using the -data option.

> 3.>>For example, you can start Eclipse by submitting
> the following command: C:\programs\eclipse\eclipse.exe
> -data "D:\Data\path\to\my\vif\workspace".
>
> I have not turned off the option and while starting my
> Eclipse still asks which workspace to choose. I guess
> I do not need this command in that case. Please
> confirm.
If you use the default workspace, then you don't need the -data option.

> 4. I have created 5 projects under
> c:\Leena\VIF\workspace namely - VIF, VIF Test, VIF
> Framework, VIF Framework Test and vifapp. For these I
> used 'Java Project' type in the 'Project Creation
> Wizard'. I have not created the project for 'scripts'.
> What is the type of this project u specified in your
> 'Project creation Wizard'?
For the scripts I used a simple project. You can find this type of project
in the section named 'Simple' (after submitting Crtl-N), that contains the
three (simple) items File, Folder and Project.

> 5. The repository addition not going smooth at all. I
> tried re-doing it all. Few inconsistent errors
> occured.
I don't understand this.
I'll check the settings again and will inform you about my findings.

Regards,
Benno


> -----Original Message-----
> From: vif...@li...
> [mailto:vif...@li...]On Behalf Of Leena
> Kulkarni
> Sent: Dienstag, 16. November 2004 15:37
> To: vif...@li...
> Subject: [Vif-devel] Update
>
>
> Hello Benno,
>
> I have started with the projects creations and
> synchronising with the repository.
>
> 1. When Im creating projects VIF, VIF Test and so on,
> under every project the 'JRE System Library' is
> getting created which has jars under it like rt.jar
> etc.
> Do they get created on your Eclipse too? Do you keep
> them as they are? OR map them/specify them in build
> path etc so that all the five projects do not have to
> contain them?
>
> 2.
> >>It"s a good idea to use a workspace separate of your
> Eclipse installation.
> Can you please explain why? I had gone ahead with the
> one under Eclipse installation. Now I have created new
> workspace location on the same drive and have
> proceeded. I did not have any specific advantage in
> mind abt using the one under Eclipse. I had just went
> ahead with the defaults. So I did not wait for your
> answer to create a new one as this would have again
> spent some time.
>
> Hope its ok.
>
> 3.>>For example, you can start Eclipse by submitting
> the following command: C:\programs\eclipse\eclipse.exe
> -data "D:\Data\path\to\my\vif\workspace".
>
> I have not turned off the option and while starting my
> Eclipse still asks which workspace to choose. I guess
> I do not need this command in that case. Please
> confirm.
>
> 4. I have created 5 projects under
> c:\Leena\VIF\workspace namely - VIF, VIF Test, VIF
> Framework, VIF Framework Test and vifapp. For these I
> used 'Java Project' type in the 'Project Creation
> Wizard'. I have not created the project for 'scripts'.
> What is the type of this project u specified in your
> 'Project creation Wizard'?
>
> 5. The repository addition not going smooth at all. I
> tried re-doing it all. Few inconsistent errors
> occured.
> A. Getting the host validation error now.
> Error Validating Location:"Authentication Error:
> com.jcraft.jsch.JschException: Auth Fail
> Keep location anyway?
> B. I used username='anonymous' with password ''(none).
> Sometimes I get the above error. Sometimes the
> password window appears again as if the login failed.
> Can you please check the password has not changed?
> C. While adding the repository, I kept the following
> options as they were.
> I.  connectionType='extssh'
> II. Use Default Port Radio button selected
> Please confirm they are the same on your machine.
>
> Regards,
> Leena
>
>
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Hello Benno,

I have started with the projects creations and
synchronising with the repository.

1. When Im creating projects VIF, VIF Test and so on,
under every project the 'JRE System Library' is
getting created which has jars under it like rt.jar
etc. 
Do they get created on your Eclipse too? Do you keep
them as they are? OR map them/specify them in build
path etc so that all the five projects do not have to
contain them?

2.
>>It"s a good idea to use a workspace separate of your
Eclipse installation.
Can you please explain why? I had gone ahead with the
one under Eclipse installation. Now I have created new
workspace location on the same drive and have
proceeded. I did not have any specific advantage in
mind abt using the one under Eclipse. I had just went
ahead with the defaults. So I did not wait for your
answer to create a new one as this would have again
spent some time.

Hope its ok.

3.>>For example, you can start Eclipse by submitting
the following command: C:\programs\eclipse\eclipse.exe
-data "D:\Data\path\to\my\vif\workspace".

I have not turned off the option and while starting my
Eclipse still asks which workspace to choose. I guess
I do not need this command in that case. Please
confirm.

4. I have created 5 projects under
c:\Leena\VIF\workspace namely - VIF, VIF Test, VIF
Framework, VIF Framework Test and vifapp. For these I
used 'Java Project' type in the 'Project Creation
Wizard'. I have not created the project for 'scripts'.
What is the type of this project u specified in your
'Project creation Wizard'?

5. The repository addition not going smooth at all. I
tried re-doing it all. Few inconsistent errors
occured.
A. Getting the host validation error now.
Error Validating Location:"Authentication Error:
com.jcraft.jsch.JschException: Auth Fail
Keep location anyway?
B. I used username='anonymous' with password ''(none).
Sometimes I get the above error. Sometimes the
password window appears again as if the login failed.
Can you please check the password has not changed?
C. While adding the repository, I kept the following
options as they were.
I.  connectionType='extssh'
II. Use Default Port Radio button selected
Please confirm they are the same on your machine.

Regards,
Leena


		
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Dear Leena

The notation displayed on the SourceForge cvs is confusing insofar as the
SourceForge project name is vif (therefore the cvs path to /cvsroot/vif)
containing the project's code in the folders (= Eclipse projecs) VIF (for
the application), VIF Framework (for the application's framework), VIF Test
and VIF Framework Test (for the JUnit tests), vifapp (the Tomcat project,
i.e. the html- and xsl-files) and scripts (for the database scripts).
In the Eclipse workbench, therefore, I have five Java projects: VIF, VIF
Test, VIF Framework, VIF Framework Test and vifapp, and one additional
project for the scripts.

A note to the Eclipse workspace: It's a good idea to use a workspace
separate of your Eclipse installation. You can access this separate
workspace using the Eclipse -data runtime option. For example, you can start
Eclipse by submitting the following command:
C:\programs\eclipse\eclipse.exe -data "D:\Data\path\to\my\vif\workspace".

Having a VIF project in your workspace is ok. Instead of importing the
vif_source.jar I would suggest that you download the project structure
directly from the SourceForge CVS. You can do this using the Eclipse CVS
Repository perspective.
To access the CVS, add a new CVS Repository in the "CVS Repositories" tab
and provide the following information:
Host: cvs.sourceforge.net
Repository path: /cvsroot/vif
User: anonymous
Password: (none)

With this information you can connect to the projects CVS repository.
Change to the Java perspective and select Team -> Share project... A wizzard
starts guiding you through the next steps: (1) Use the repository location
you defined before, (2) Select an existing module, i.g. VIF, (3) Select HEAD
to get the code from, (4) click Finish. You're asked to commit changes now.
Click 'No' because you can't commit as Anonymous. After this step you'll
find nothing changed.
However, if you look at the 'Team' entry in the project's context menu, you
see that you have much more options now. In particular you're able now to
update your project, i.e. to load the code from the CVS repository. Select
the Update... action and you'll see how Eclipse loads the code from the CVS.
During the update step, Eclipse tries to compile the code. However, because
of missing ressources, it will fail most of the time. Therefore, after
you've checked out all the code in the 6 projects, you have to set the
references right for that Eclipse can compile.
You can configure the references in the project's properties -> Java Build
Path. You have to set the following references:
VIF (and VIF Framework Test) on VIF Framework, VIF Test on VIF.
In addition, you have to reference External JARs, i.e. javax.servlet,
javax.mail etc.
You can use the jar files in vifapp\WEB-INF\lib.

Please contact me if you have further questions,
Benno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vif...@li...
> [mailto:vif...@li...]On Behalf Of Leena
> Kulkarni
> Sent: Montag, 11. Oktober 2004 12:47
> To: vif...@li...
> Subject: [Vif-devel] Project in Eclipse
>
>
> Hello Benno,
>
> Till now I found Eclipse much on the similar lines of
> WSAD(Websphere Studio Application Developer). Im going
> through the docs quickly so as to spend less time on
> interacting with you for small things here and there
> about the IDE. Also, I had worked on a machine of an
> ex-employee where the IDE and the project and paths
> etc all setup was already there.
>
> I have created a project called VIF in the workspace.
> And have added the source files under the VIF
> workspace through 'Import' on the vif_source.jar.
>
> After that when I tried to 'Import' the
> viffw_source.jar and it asked me for overwriting.
>
> I cancelled it. And checked the structure in the 'VIF
> CVS' on the site.
>
> I have workspace/Vif/METAINF and workspace/Vif/org
> kind of structure right now.
>
> In the CVS it is like - 'workspace/Vif/Vif/METAINF'
> and 'workspace/Vif/Vif/org'. And then
> 'workspace/Vif/Vif Framework'. We have a folder VIF
> which in turn contains the main source files, the
> framework related source files and so on..
> So that workspace remains one for all these source
> files.
>
>
> So I should be creating a folder VIF under the vif
> workspace and import the jars in the folder. Pls
> confirm this.
>
> Regards,
> Leena
>
>
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Hello Benno,

Till now I found Eclipse much on the similar lines of
WSAD(Websphere Studio Application Developer). Im going
through the docs quickly so as to spend less time on
interacting with you for small things here and there
about the IDE. Also, I had worked on a machine of an
ex-employee where the IDE and the project and paths
etc all setup was already there.

I have created a project called VIF in the workspace.
And have added the source files under the VIF
workspace through 'Import' on the vif_source.jar.

After that when I tried to 'Import' the
viffw_source.jar and it asked me for overwriting.

I cancelled it. And checked the structure in the 'VIF
CVS' on the site.

I have workspace/Vif/METAINF and workspace/Vif/org
kind of structure right now.

In the CVS it is like - 'workspace/Vif/Vif/METAINF'
and 'workspace/Vif/Vif/org'. And then
'workspace/Vif/Vif Framework'. We have a folder VIF
which in turn contains the main source files, the
framework related source files and so on..
So that workspace remains one for all these source
files.


So I should be creating a folder VIF under the vif
workspace and import the jars in the folder. Pls
confirm this.

Regards,
Leena


		
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Dear Leena

For me in Switzerland, I use SWITCH mirror
(http://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/eclipse/). In the directory there I find the
release 3.0 I'm looking for under
http://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.0-200406251208/in
dex.php. I then downloaded the eclipse-SDK-3.0-win32.zip.

BTW: I've just release the VIF DOM Plug-in for Eclipse 3.0. You'll find it
on the project's release section.

HTH,
Benno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vif...@li...
> [mailto:vif...@li...]On Behalf Of Leena
> Kulkarni
> Sent: Freitag, 3. September 2004 18:10
> To: vif...@li...
> Subject: [Vif-devel] Eclipse download
>
>
> Hello Benno,
>
> I checked on the following for nearest mirror. I tried
> some of them. But they take me to a directory
> structure!
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php
>
> Is it this way only? Do I move one level up and copy
> paste the directory (named download.eclipse.org having
> eclipse,technology, tools, webtools folders under
> it)on my local system?
>
> If so, I guess it is a JDK kind of download. No
> installation wizard etc.
>
> I do not know this. Will try to find it and keep you
> posted on the same.
> >I'm not familiar with the implementation details of
> >Xalan and Xerces. I once heard Xalan uses Xerces as
> >parser. I package the application with both
> >xalan.jar and xercesImpl.jar. Do you think this is
> >overkill?
>
> Regards,
> Leena
>
>
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Hello Benno,

I checked on the following for nearest mirror. I tried
some of them. But they take me to a directory
structure!
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php

Is it this way only? Do I move one level up and copy
paste the directory (named download.eclipse.org having
eclipse,technology, tools, webtools folders under
it)on my local system?

If so, I guess it is a JDK kind of download. No
installation wizard etc.

I do not know this. Will try to find it and keep you
posted on the same.
>I'm not familiar with the implementation details of
>Xalan and Xerces. I once heard Xalan uses Xerces as
>parser. I package the application with both
>xalan.jar and xercesImpl.jar. Do you think this is
>overkill?

Regards,
Leena


		
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Dear Leena

> Is that coz u have been using it for long or.. any
> other reason?
I use Eclipse since nearly 3 years and during this time I've noticed that
time Eclipse evolved in a way it covers more and more of the requirements I
have while developing.
Eclipse 3.0 is especially well suited for Eclipse newcomers because of its
excellent introductory tutorials and help materials.

> Do we need the
> plug-in to use Eclipse at the first place or do we
> need it as a patch for small problems here and there?
> At this time, I will go for free plug-ins.
Most of the work needed for the VIF project is Java development. Only a
small part (about 20%) is interface design and XSLT development.

> I have used Xalan. What makes us use both the parsers?
> Is it coz none provides a better functionality all by
> itself and we 'need' functions etc that are not
> provided solely by either one?
For the XSLT transformation I used Xalan and as SAX parser and DOM builder I
used classes provided by Xerces. But the applicaton and the framework is
absolutely decoupled from the implementation details of the parsers,
builders and transformers. This is possible because the framework conforms
to the TRaX framework. Which implementation the application uses is
specified in the vif.properties configuration file. Thus, it's easily
possible to replace the transformer, parser and builder.

I'm not familiar with the implementation details of Xalan and Xerces. I once
heard Xalan uses Xerces as parser. I package the application with both
xalan.jar and xercesImpl.jar. Do you think this is overkill?

Regards,
Benno

Hello Benno,

I see :) That is OK.
> > Hello to All,
> Well, actually the 'All' consists of me and soon,
> hopefully (if you can
> commit), of you too ;-)

I would like to go ahead and try out Eclipse. Why u
think your decision about Eclipse is 'heavily biased'?
Is that coz u have been using it for long or.. any
other reason?

Ok. I will check it out.
> I'd suggest to use the newest stable release, which
> is Eclipse 3.0.

Least expected a yes to this question! Do we need the
plug-in to use Eclipse at the first place or do we
need it as a patch for small problems here and there?
At this time, I will go for free plug-ins.
> > 2. Can Eclipse be used for XSL development?
> Yes, it can. I use a plug-in manufacterd by Oxygen
> (see
> http://www.oxygenxml.com/), which is a commercial
> plug-in. But I suppose
> there are free plug-ins on
> http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/ too.

I have used Xalan. What makes us use both the parsers?
Is it coz none provides a better functionality all by
itself and we 'need' functions etc that are not
provided solely by either one?
> > 3. Are we using Xalan/Xerces or both as parsers?
> For the project we use both.

Regards,
Leena


		
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Dear Leena

> Hello to All,
Well, actually the 'All' consists of me and soon, hopefully (if you can
commit), of you too ;-) I've posted a help request on SourceForge once in a
while and attracted some developers, but all of them lost their interest
after short time :-( Thats why the number of project developers (see
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vif/) is still on 1.

That's of matter concerning the IDE. Up till now, uniformity in the use of
project tools is easily achieved, indeed ;-) But if you feel comfortable
with the IDE you're using, there's no reason to switch.

But if you're curious about Eclipse, I would encourage you to have a look at
it. I don't find it complicated at all. But of course, my impression is
heavily biased.

> 1. Are we sticking to any particular version of it?
I'd suggest to use the newest stable release, which is Eclipse 3.0.

> 2. Can Eclipse be used for XSL development?
Yes, it can. I use a plug-in manufacterd by Oxygen (see
http://www.oxygenxml.com/), which is a commercial plug-in. But I suppose
there are free plug-ins on http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/ too.

> 3. Are we using Xalan/Xerces or both as parsers?
For the project we use both.

> 4.Do we use free softwares or are required to buy any?
There's no need to buy any software tools for project development, as far as
I see. However, it's not forbidden to use commercial tools, if they come in
handy.

Regards,
Benno


> -----Original Message-----
> From: vif...@li...
> [mailto:vif...@li...]On Behalf Of Leena
> Kulkarni
> Sent: Donnerstag, 26. August 2004 18:23
> To: vif...@li...
> Subject: [Vif-devel] RE: Queries
>
>
> Hello to All,
>
> I have not used Ecpile anytime. Heard it is free and a
> bit complicated. Will start using it if all the guys
> here stick to it for the sake of uniformity.
>
> 1. Are we sticking to any particular version of it?
>
> 2. Can Eclipse be used for XSL development?
> 3. Are we using Xalan/Xerces or both as parsers?
> 4. This is my first time on an open source project. Do
> we use free softwares or are required to buy any?
>
> Regards,
> Leena
>
> > BTW: What IDE are you using for Java (and XSL)
> > development? My prefered IDE
> > is Eclipse.
>
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Hello to All,

I have not used Ecpile anytime. Heard it is free and a
bit complicated. Will start using it if all the guys
here stick to it for the sake of uniformity.

1. Are we sticking to any particular version of it?

2. Can Eclipse be used for XSL development?
3. Are we using Xalan/Xerces or both as parsers?
4. This is my first time on an open source project. Do
we use free softwares or are required to buy any?

Regards,
Leena

> BTW: What IDE are you using for Java (and XSL)
> development? My prefered IDE
> is Eclipse.


		
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Dear Leena

> 1. What are the Attic folders in the CVS contain?
In CVS, you can't delete files, as it is the logic of a versioning system
that you can track the different versions of a file. If you decide to delete
a file at a certain point in the development process, the CVS hides this
file. This hiding is done by moving the file in the Attic folder. Thus, if
you open such an Attic folder you find there all the files wich aren't used
anymore, but had a meaning in the past.

> 2. How I search files in the online CVS? Do I have to
> go through all the possible folders till I start
> understanding which file falls in which folder?
Yes, as far as I know, that's the only possibility :-(
Therefore, it's better to make a checkout to your local file system and use
your file and text search utilities there ;-) You find the Java source code
in the project's download tarball too. The source code for the framework is
in source\viffw_source.jar, the proper vif application in
source\vif_source.jar.

BTW: What IDE are you using for Java (and XSL) development? My prefered IDE
is Eclipse. I've developed an Eclipse Plug-in which makes the development of
VIF domain object models much easier. If you have Ecllipse installed (of
plan to do so), I can send you this Plug-in.

Regards,
Benno


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leena Kulkarni [mailto:lee...@ya...]
> Sent: Freitag, 20. August 2004 20:44
> To: Luthiger Stoll, Benno
> Subject: Queries
>
>
> Few queries:
> 1. What are the Attic folders in the CVS contain? Are
> they for some stuff which was being used earlier but
> not anymore?
>
> 2. How I search files in the online CVS? Do I have to
> go through all the possible folders till I start
> understanding which file falls in which folder?
>
> Regards,
> Leena
>
>
>
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Dear Leena

> I can see 21 tables created in the VIF database
Thats correct. The script should also insert some initial entries in the
tables tblRole, tblPermission and tblLinkPermissionRole.

> I checked this html code. It has message that my
> browser does not support framesets. Im using IE6.0.
> I should be getting a Login page instead, right?
What happens if you click on either the 'VIF Forum' or 'VIF Administration'
link?
The html-file vifapp/forum/shared/frameset/master.html creates a frameset
and, if the browser doesn't support frames, displays the message you
mentioned. However, in the normal case (i.e. with a normal browser as IE6.0
is supposed to be) the creation of frames should not be a problem. The
relevant code, then, is in the vifapp/forum/shared/frameset/body.html. In
this html-file you can find the javascript command onLoad="javascript:...
href='/vifapp/forum?requestType=startup'". This requests the application's
startup task, that is the login page, as you expected correctly.

BTW I sent a CC of this mail to the project's mailing list (which is
vif...@li...). I'm of the opinion that your questions are
relevant and, therefore, it's useful to store them in a meaningful place for
that other people in the future with similar problems can profit of the
questions you posed and the answers I gave.
I therefore would suggest that you subscribe to the project's mailing list
for that you can send your future questions to this list (see
http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=29728). Thus we can proceed the usual
way in Open Source projects which had turned out to be fruitful.

Regards,
Benno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leena Kulkarni [mailto:lee...@ya...]
> Sent: Freitag, 20. August 2004 20:06
> To: Luthiger Stoll, Benno
> Subject: RE: Update : VIF study
>
>
> I can see 21 tables created in the VIF database in
> mysql. Also, the super user entry was created in the
> tblmember table. So Im assuming that the scripts part
> went well for me. Nothing to doubt so far.
>
> As for the difficulties faced by some, the error might
> not be in sripts. The first step might not be getting
> followed properly - start mysql.
> I first time got an error that the sripts can't be
> read. When the server was started properly, it went
> fine.
>
> Im not getting the login page of VIF.
>
> Im able to go on the VIF application page
> http://localhost:8080/vifapp/index.html
> on which I can see 3 links.
>
> The VIF forum and VIF Administration links go to
> http://localhost:8080/vifapp/forum/shared/frameset/master.html
>
> I checked this html code. It has message that my
> browser does not support framesets. Im using IE6.0.
>
> I should be getting a Login page instead, right?
>
> I am debugging the problem. But if this is a common
> error, please let me know how to correct it.
>
> Regards,
> Leena
>
>
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Hello

I've just release Version 0.6.4 of the VIF application.

Here's the list of changes:
Features added
- Major redesign of menu system. Display of menu items know is not only
contingent on the actor's permissions,
but also on the group's state and whether the user is registered in the
group.

Bugs fixed
- Fixed formatting bug in mails to and from reviewer.

VIF framework:
- Set Assert.assert() depracted. Used Assert.asserTrue() or
Assert.asserNotNull() instead throughout the framework.

Regards,
Benno

Dear Andrey

Thanks for your data. I think we are on the right track.

I can reproduce the behaviour you described when I remove the requested
page. The paths for Tomcat Base and User Context look reasonable, therefore,
my guess is that something with the paths in vif.properties is not ok.

Concluding from the data you provided I would suggest that you set the path
properties in vif.propertis as follows:

org.hip.vif.docs.root=C:/java/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/vifapp/
org.hip.vif.website.root=./
org.hip.vif.code.root=C:/java/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/vifapp/WEB-INF/conf/
org.hip.vif.logPath=C:/java/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/vifapp/logs

The meaning of this properties is as follows:
During initialisation of the application's servlet, the servlet context is
requested, in this case C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1\\webapps\\vifapp\\, and with
this information the application finds the application's configuration file
vif.properties looking in the directory $SERVLET_CONTEXT$/WEB-INF/conf/.
Having found the configuration, the application can initialise the
properties to locate the documents.

The most important property is org.hip.vif.docs.root. This property tells
the application where to look for the html and xslt files. In our case this
property is set to C:/java/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/vifapp/ meaning that the admin
pages in english are found in C:/java/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/vifapp/admin/en/,
e.g. for the login C:/java/Tomcat
4.1/webapps/vifapp/admin/en/login_page/body.htm. For the forum part of the
application the procedure is analogous, in the case of the login the html is
looked for in C:/java/Tomcat
4.1/webapps/vifapp/forum/en/login_page/body.htm.

org.hip.vif.code.root tells the application where to look for the codelists,
i.e. GROUPSTATES.xml, QUESTIONSTATES.xml, ROLES.xml.

org.hip.vif.logPath defines where to write the log information, i.e
system.log, tracer.log and, above all, the error.log.

org.hip.vif.website.root is not used at the moment.

I'm looking forward to get good news from you.
Benno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Hammer [mailto:abo...@uk...]
> Sent: Samstag, 19. Juni 2004 15:04
> To: Benno Luthiger
> Subject: RE: RE: VIF, path problems
>
>
> Hello Benno
>
> I did it when at once I downloand Vif release, but system
> didn't work until I replace relative paths in my
> vif.properties file with absolute files.
> Maybe I have done something wrong. Lets check my
> installation-specific settings:
>
> OS: Windows XP (it is my home computer)
> web-server: Apache Tomcat/4.1.27-LE-jdk14
> web-server instalations directory: C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1
> environment variables:
>   TOMCAT_HOME = C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1
>   CATALINA_BASE = C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1
>
> When I put vifapp.war in C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1\\webapps I
> start Tomcat and type in browser:
>
> http://localhost:8080/vifapp/admin?requestType=smoke
>
> I see the next output:
>
> Application: Release ?.?.?
> Framework: Release ?.?.?
>
> Servlet Container: Apache Tomcat/4.1.27-LE-jdk14
> Tomcat Home: C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1
> Tomcat Base: C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1
> User Home: C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1
> Servlet Context: C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1\\webapps\\vifapp\\
>
> Java
> Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
> Version: 1.4.0_01
> Version Virtual Machine: 1.4.0_01-b03
> Version Runtime: 1.4.0_01-b03
> Java Home: C:\\java\\sdk\\jre
> Class Path: C:\\java\\Tomcat 4.1\\bin\\bootstrap.jar
> Library Path:
> C:\\java\\sdk\\bin;.;C:\\WINDOWS\\System32;C:\\WINDOWS;D:\\ora
> cle\\home\\bin;D:\\oracle\\home\\Apache\\Perl\\5.00503\\bin\\m
swin32-x86;C:\\Program Files\\Oracle\\jre\\1.1.8\\bin;C:\\WINDOWS>
\\system32;C:\\WINDOWS;C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\Wbem;C:\\Java\\a
nt\\bin;C:\\java\\sdk\\bin
OS: Windows XP

But when I click on "VIF Administration" item in start menu I see:

No HTML for view!

in tomcat console I see message that system could not find a file with
path (.\\webapps\\vifapp\\admin\\en\\login_page\\body.htm)

Tell me, please, where I made mistacke?

Best regards

Аndrey Kopachevsky




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Dear Andrey

> I have changed all path properties to absolute values and now
> VIF is woiking on my system.
Great.

>But It still don't work with out errors.
> Your script was create database, but it didn't populate it
> reas values, I will do is manually.
Do you have an idea why the db-installscript wasn't able to populate the
db-tables?
It would be nice if you could tell me for that I can improve the
db-installscript.

Regards,
Benno


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Hammer [mailto:abo...@uk...]
> Sent: Montag, 31. Mai 2004 20:17
> To: Luthiger Stoll, Benno
> Subject: VIF works!
>
>
>
> Dear Benno
> I have changed all path properties to absolute values and now
> VIF is woiking on my system. But It still don't work with out errors.
> Your script was create database, but it didn't populate it
> reas values, I will do is manually.
>
>
>
>
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Dear Aulia

Most probaly you have to adjust the path to your installation's xslt
documents. The path is defined with the property org.hip.vif.docs.root in
the application's configuration file vif.properties (in
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/vifapp/WEB-INF/conf/).

I can give you an answer which is more accurate if you could send me the
error trace created by the error. You can find these messages in the file
error.log. The place of the applications log files is defined by the
property org.hip.vif.logPath in vif.properties. By default it is
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/vifapp/logs/.

You can check the installation's settings by submitting
http://localhost:8080/vifapp/admin?requestType=smoke.

HTH
Benno

PS:
I've sent a copy of this mail to the project's mailing list
vif...@li...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aulia Yusuf [mailto:aul...@ya...]
> Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2004 22:40
> To: ben...@id...
> Subject: RE: [VIF] Java developers with XSLT knowledge
>
>
> Benno,
>
> I have installed the application and run it. But, If I
> go to the URL:
>
> http://localhost:8080/vifapp/forum/
>
> or
>
> http://localhost:8080/vifapp/admin/
>
> The pages don't have anything yet. It just says "No
> HTML for view!" and the left side with the symbol
> "VIF" . Is this what it's supposed to be?
>
> Aulia
>

Hello

I've released version 0.6.3 of the application VIF.

Here's the list of changes:
Features added
- Added creation date to display of contributions.
- Added author's name to notification mail.
- Redesigned display of contributions in administration part.

Bugs fixed
- Fixed bug in creation of completion.

VIF framework:
Features added
- Added local field to serializer for that date values can be serialized
with the proper localized format.
- Added local parameter to method signature of QueryResult for that domain
objects can be serialized with the proper localized format.
- Added method getLocal() to View for that views can be used to retrieve the
correct locale for the actual user.

Bugs fixed
- Closing connection in org.hip.kernel.persistency.VConnection in case
connection pooling is disabled.

Regards,
Benno

ich habe mein passwort vergessen. was kann ich machen?

emanuel

vif...@li... wrote:
> =

> Die folgenden Beitr=E4ge wurden publiziert:
> =

> Frage 1:1.4: Begriffe und Bedienung
> Bemerkung: Ich habe, ehrlich gesagt, immer noch etwas M=FChe mit dem Au=
fbau von VIF:
> - Ich finde die Begriffe etwas verwirrend: Ein Beitrag in einer Gruppe =
heisst "Folgefrage", auch wenn es nicht unbedingt eine Frage ist.
> - Wenn ich eine Folgefrage betrachte, sehe ich die anderen Folgefragen =
nicht mehr.
> - Das Datum des Beitrages fehlt.
> =

> Ich stelle mir unter einem Web-Diskussionsforum eine Form und Hierarchi=
e =E4hnlich den Newsgroups vor, wie z. B. unter http://news.gmane.org/. I=
ch finde VIF in der heutigen Form zuwenig =FCbersichtlich, und die Strukt=
ur erinnert mich mehr an ein Knowledge Management als an ein Diskussionsf=
orum.
> =

> Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen
> =

> Die VIF Administration

Die folgenden Beitr=E4ge wurden publiziert:

Erg=E4nzung (1:1.3): Das war ein Fehler der Applikation. Habe ich inzwische=
n korrigiert. Vielen Dank f=FCr die Meldung.


Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen

Die VIF Administration

Die folgenden Beitr=E4ge wurden publiziert:

Frage 1:1.3.1: Es scheint mir, dass Folgefragen publiziert werden k=F6nnen,=
 nicht aber Erg=E4nzungen.
Bemerkung: Ich schreib jetzt einfach da noch was rein, obwohl ich eigentlic=
h keine Bemerkung habe.


Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen

Die VIF Administration

Die folgenden Beitr=E4ge wurden publiziert:

Frage 1:1.3: Bei mir ist ein Fehler aufgetreten, als ich einen soeben gesch=
riebenen Beitrag publizieren wollte. Ich markierte das K=E4stchen, klickte =
links auf "publizieren", da kam die Meldung es sein ein Fehler aufgetreten.
Bemerkung: Woran liegt das?


Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen

Die VIF Administration

An die Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer der Diskussions-Gruppe VIF Pilotproje=
kt

Der Status der Gruppe VIF Pilotprojekt hat ge=E4ndert.
Die Gruppe ist nun aktiv. Sie k=F6nnen Beitr=E4ge erzeugen und begutachten.

Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen

Die VIF Administration