Alu_Sols

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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
everettethirlightt
everettethirlightt

Hey people, don't fucking harass Mods and thumbnail artists. It's not cool and it doesn't make you look cool or rebellious. It makes you look like a childish asshole. Be respectful to everyone please.

If you are not one of those people, have a great day! Glad to see you are a chill person.

If you are a mod or thumbnail artist, then my apologies. This Fandom kinda sucks sometimes. You guys are really cool from what I've seen and interacted with. Hope you guys are doing well!

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night-waker
night-waker

I've noticed this happening here on Tumblr and TikTok, and I don't wanna start anything, but I keep seeing this and felt the need to say something: Can we please not refer to TSBS discord as a cult?

Like, it's okay if you don't like it for your own reasons, but I just think calling it a cult, or likining certain mods to cult leaders, is a bit extreme?

Idk. I'm not very good exaplaining this. It just makes me uncomfortable everytime I see it. I'd appreciate a reblog to spread this around /nf

night-waker

I wanna put this out there now, I'm one of the mods on the server. I'm also one of the thumbnail artists for TSAMS, but I was a regular member for at least half a year before any of that. I've had my own personal experience with toxic discord servers in the past. TSBS can be chaotic, and even a little stressful, at times, but at no point has it ever been like a cult. Especially if you stop and compare it to how actual cults operate

I'm sure most of the people who use the term aren't intending this, but doing so causes more harm than they realize. Not only does it cause the word to be watered down and lose meaning, but it's very disheartening for people like me who's seen first hand how much the mods genuinely want to make the server a fun place for everyone. I've seen how negatively some of them have been impacted mentally and emotionally by fandom drama. We aren't perfect. We don't always handle situations in the best manner, but we're always trying to do better

I feel like there's also something to be said about how it unintentionally might come off as insensitive to actual cult survivors, but I'm not nearly educated enough on the subject, and it's frankly not my place to speak on that, so I'm just gonna stop there

Again, I'm not trying to start any drama. I'm not trying to target anyone. I just think sometimes we need to take a step back, take a breath, and be more careful about the words we use in the heat of the moment

tsbs
kenmarlenn
kenmarlenn

enagging with tsbs tumblr was a mistake after all, i'm done

i'm reblogging art but i'm not addressing anything else

i'm creepy for trying to solve things privately, i'm defensive and rude for trying to give more information about merch when I am literally the only person who can give answers to that, i'm rude and unprofessional for trying to address fandom issues and engaging with criticism

I'll stay in my bubble now, thank you.

kenmarlenn

That was made mid-panic attack, I'm going to add to it with my brain working. ESSAY TIME SORRY.

I saw negative posts about me in the TSBS community on Tumblr, and it had a lot of comments and likes and reblogs. That's okay. People can have personal posts. It's just disappointing to see so many people agreeing that I'm creepy or rude for my behavior, but mostly because I'm disappointed in myself.

Keep reading

reblogging for clarification on this situation my blog is mostly for spreading awareness on this kind of stuff so just trying to not seem like an ass
tincan-fandomfreak
xnackery027

This fandom is just small enough that sometimes you can post about disliking their merch or company and be personally messaged by the marketing team and asked to explain yourself. Which is. Not ideal.

sillyzone1209

damn that's kind of spooky

xnackery027

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See I also thought that, which is why I made the post and tried to offer ideas for improvement on it, but then they got weirdly defensive of the company? Like I already understood the limitations of not being able to picture DCA-esque characters, and how it was an early stage release of merch, which I mentioned in the post, but they seemed weirdly frustrated at me for criticizing their merch. They also blocked me shortly afterwards. It felt way more like a personal argument in a super uncomfortable way. Especially since there were so many other ways to go about asking for feedback. If they wanted feedback, they could make their own post about it. If they wanted feedback from me specifically, they could have sent me an inbox ask. To message me privately felt really weird and way too personal for an employee of a company to do, which is why I ended up making a public post to respond to it.

xnackery027

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This was the messages I got from them, and this was in response to a post that I reblogged about disliking the plain look of the merch. Has anyone else received messages from people affiliated with TSAMS?

willowshimmer

Holy shit... This man is so defensive! Literally he acts exactly like this any time someone makes one criticism against TSAMS or Blackshore!

One time someone complained about a Cosmos meme that was posted, he would not stop defending himself and saying that "it's only a joke!" "It's a fictional character, why are you complaining?"... Like he's even a mod on the Discord.

tincan-fandomfreak

Their pronouns are they/she (not disagreeing, just correcting)

This honestly reminds me of Viv a lil bit as well as some of her other crew members

willowshimmer

Oh shit! I'll make sure to correct that! Thanks for telling

tincan-fandomfreak

Oh no worries

backflippingbeanbagguy

lol I can say whatever I want about the merch and not be questioned, I’m blocked already by Ken

not that I have any of it, my girlfriend is currently ordering a bunch of the Lunar stuff though.. so I’ll be able to know the quality for myself

but adding onto this, one of my friends was banned from Floras discord, Davis’s discord, and Tsbs discord just for some stuff they did on tumblr, such as slightly suggestive posts about some of the tsbs characters. ON TUMBLR.

like, my guys, tumblr ain’t got no rules, they didn’t do it in the discord, why the hell ban them?

holy shit they moderate everything

tincan-fandomfreak

I think this just boils down to favoritism from the sounds of it

Xnackery didn’t get into any trouble from the team and it make a ton of suggestive art

Apparently one of the old mods there is a friend of it’s so

And I ended up getting in trouble for talking about a suggestive topic and tagging it as tsbs

I also saw a popular artist having beef with flora because of her liking eclipse x puppet and them saying they “no eclipse better then Davis”

I made a few posts talking about that whole thing already

They’re all just so sensitive over there lol

xnackery027

I haven’t ever tried to join the discord, so I might have been banned as well for all I know.

alexandraisyes

I’m getting ready for work but lemme get to work and I have words to add to this lmao

alexandraisyes

Okay I’m at work (we cheer for graveyard shift with nothing to do)

They’re extremely fucking unprofessional, the lot of them. Last time I talked to Ken went “superficially well” in the fact that neither of us were overtly rude to each other.

I had just been removed from a project I was hired for by Reed (side note: Reed still owes me 40$ for an icon that he has yet to pay for, and as far as I’m aware never intended to pay for, and never paid any of the other artists in the team for their icons either, despite claiming he would pay us for all artwork that we made for him this seemed to be the exception, funny considering it was the only one with a deadline. Since I’m the only one who didn’t buddy buddy up with Reed I’m the only one who is bothered by this).

The reasoning on the surface level was budgeting cuts, which. I have my own issues with but that’s more about responsibility than anything else. He blew all of his money funding a new idea more or less. There’s more to it but I can’t prove it so I’m gonna leave it out.

Shortly after removal from the project I posted that I was thinking about doing a TSAMS fanzine (I am, we’re opening interest check in a couple weeks, go follow @tsams-zine I’m still working on graphics). Ken DMed me, surprised, saying that they thought I wasn’t interested in TSBS anymore since shortly before I had officially resigned from the moderation team (this decision was fueled by a situation I’m not going to get into here, if people wanna know the details of my beef with the two main VAs sucks to suck right now I’m not pissed off enough to get into it).

The real reason they reached out to me of course was to ensure I wasn’t going to bad mouth Reed, and that became immediately obvious as it was brought up. They made a small joke about “don’t tell me about merch ideas I don’t want to be accused of stealing them” I made back a joke along the lines of “I don’t mind sharing ideas it’s not like I’ll get to all of them, that’s what friends are for” or some dumb shit like that because I was being genuine.

They wished me a good day, we ended on a friendly note, since we were, yk. Friends.

And then they blocked me once they were sure that I wasn’t going to say anything. I know this because we were friended before that conversation. We were not 20 minutes after it.

I bit my nails for a while about blocking them back, blocking them on tumblr, I was suddenly very uncomfortable with the entire conversation. I did end up blocking them on tumblr first, shortly after they blocked me back, which confirmed my suspicions that they had planned to check on my account for a while to make sure I wasn’t saying anything.

Adding onto this they had a strong habit of soft blocking me while we were friends on tumblr. I would follow, then have to refollow, over and over again and each time I asked they said “it must just be a tumblr glitch”. Bull fucking shit.

They haven’t liked me since the MothyIsAGhost or whoever the fuck situation when I refused to give them the discord usernames of MINORS so they could ban them from the TSBS discord for making NSFW content of fictional characters (I don’t give a fuck how old the characters were in canon these REAL CHILDREN were groomed and they are not yours to play judge jury and executioner with Ken) under the influence of an adult in the fandom.

Apparently that’s “bad mod behavior” and I doubt they ever told anyone about it, considering no one else treated me any differently after that conversation.

Also Ken encouraged me to partake in a minor mod vs mod smear campaign because “we’re friends and those guys aren’t” which was like a whole month or two of listening to her and Meg bitch about our admin and the other mods and ultimately ruin my first impression of them. Chaos (head admin) is fucking awesome, and it’s not his fault they refuse to communicate. I literally suggested they just communicate their issues with him one time and got shot down because “you don’t understand it’s not that easy”.

It is.

I did it.

And I was a dick to him at first.

It is that easy.

I could say more, but not really about Ken. Meg shit talks her friends in private, doubly so if they like Nexus. Reed still owes me money. Davis is a topic I’m not going to touch because I’ve been asked not to talk about the fight I had with him in public by friends, and I’m going to respect that. (Honestly Davis isn’t even that bad, I would like Davis a lot more if he wasn’t so invested in his public image that it was hard to have a genuine conversation with him about serious topics without it being filtered through influencer speech.)

The others? Eh. I like a lot of my old mods still, and a lot I didn’t really get to know. I’m still friends with some people on the mod team, it’s just awkward when I very strongly dislike two of the mods I used to work with fjdnfndnd which is wild to me still because we used to be decently good friends. Oh well

I gotta get back to work now tho so I’m gonna end it here

tincan-fandomfreak

That sucks so much

Holy hell

i really hate to tell people this but when i was brought on as a mod for the tsbs server that shit slapped btw i wish i could finish it but every time i try to inch into this fandom again something happens that reminds me why i left it to start with tsams tlaes remember that post i made about my critiques on the merch? i got directly messaged asking me to explain why i disliked the look of the merch prev tags anyone else remember when this was just a silly channel on YouTube? yeah i want to go back to that it’s genuinely so infuriating that dumb shit like this keeps happening why are they like this
navetheshrub
navetheshrub

Random theory/headcannon I need to get out of my head

this is probably wrong, but what if the reason Solars Sun died is because he took to much of Suns code? My theory on how Eclipses form is basically Moon leaves his Killcode in Sun, it absorbs some of Suns code (for a normal Eclipse that means they keep more of Moon killcode instead of Suns code— like 70% Moon Killcode and 30% Sun code. And they absorb all the hate for Moon from Sun normally) and develops sentience with that code involved. What if, going off of this theory, Solar got more of his code from Sun— resulting in him being nicer and less of a normal Eclipse, but since he took so much base code, it makes Sun stop working? I don’t know, I just have this idea rotting in my mind and need to get it out.

By the way, if they (Davis and Reed) have already covered this or something on like how Solar is nicer or why his Sun died, please be nice about it. If that’s the case and they’ve already discussed it, I’m still going to use this as a headcannon because I personally like it.

alusols

I remember them saying something like he decided to talk to his sun after them fighting for a bit; as for his suns death it’s believed he died the way solar did in the episode “What if Solar’s Sun Never Died” aka his systems got corroded and he had to be shut down. But the theory is definitely more fun-

sun and moon show sams solar sams solars sun