The more time passes the more I'm convinced what people mean when they say "redemption arc" is "characters gets punished for acting unfriendly towards the characters I like and starts grovelling."
I'm seeing misunderstandings about this post, so I'll try to reword:
The more time passes, the more I'm convinced people see characters whose only "evil" act is to be vaguely rude to the designated protags, and immediately castigate the vaguely rude character as a villain who needs redemption, ie to be punished.





