Tolkien, Doctor Who and Stuff

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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
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jvlianbashir

horror movies are so much scarier when the actors look like an average sampling of the human population. and the house is a little messy

jvlianbashir

when everyone has veneers and the house is pristine and tastefully decorated: (in the back of my mind) these people were hand-selected for visual appeal. this is a set. this is a story

when the actor has a little acne and there are dirty dishes in the sink: aaaaahhhhh this is just like Me and My House ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!

pickapea

when everyone has veneers and the house is pristine and tastefully decorated: (in the front of my mind) these people had it coming

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one-time-i-dreamt
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natalieironside

Sometimes I can still hear their voice

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Breaking: TikTok is better bc it’s more hostile towards humanity

deathbyotpin123

The lack of video content is what kept us here... I thought we all agree that the best feature of this hellhole was and always will be anonymity.

Tumblr's not asking for my phone number. It's not going through my contacts to try and connect me with my fucking colleagues. I can come here and talk about whatever I want without anyone ever seeing my face or hearing my voice. I don't have to censor myself and hide my interests or enthusiasm out of fear of consequences it might have in my real life.

charlesoberonn

I think the biggest misunderstanding they have of Tumblr is that they think of it as a social media platform when in actuality it's a blogging platform with social features.

grifalinas

I like the use of Metroman here because if there's one thing Tumblr users collectively agree on it's that we want everyone to think we're dead

teaboot

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one-time-i-dreamt

wish we were still on Tumblr instead of the void

hhiki
caffinatedsmolbeing

Am I the only one who thinks veganism is a joke because it's basically just shifting to a very industrial system of agriculture and increasing dependence on the petroleum industry?

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hhiki

“Veganism is a joke because it just shifts to an industrial system.”

Animal farming is already one of the most industrialized systems we have. Feed crops, fuel, antibiotics, slaughterhouses literally none of that is small or natural. Veganism doesn’t require supporting industrial products either.

“Vegans choose petroleum candles over beeswax and polyester over wool.”

Those are individual choices, you can choose soy or coconut wax, cotton, hemp, linen or secondhand clothes. Veganism doesn’t tell people to buy plastic it just says don’t use animals when alternatives exist.

“Why not support small local farmers instead of shipping food across continents?”

You can. Veganism works perfectly with local, seasonal, organic and regenerative farming.

“Indirect harm is more acceptable than respecting nature.”

Veganism is about reducing avoidable harm. Most crops are grown to feed animals, eating plants means less land, less fertilizer, and less pollution.

“It feels very urban and Western.”

It looks western, but the practice isn’t. It's existed for centuries in India and many other places.

“Graphics about meat don’t show all the other products animals make.”

The animal still had to be bred and killed unnecessarily.

caffinatedsmolbeing

The animal industry is not highly industrial in many countries. India is a great example of how the milk industry, in many states, relies entirely on corporations that work directly with small scale farmers. Even in the town where I currently live (in Europe), there are so many small scale farms that have free-range animals that do not feed on specially grown crops and have direct to consumer shops.

Just because the system where you live is highly industrialised doesn't mean most countries have huge animal industries.

In the specific example of wool, there aren't any non-petroleum based fabrics that practically work well in cold (below 0 °C) climates. Plant based fibres do not insulate well and the only alternatives are made of plastics (a.k.a polyester).

Are you telling me that one can run an organic farm, without any animal husbandry (including bee keeping, introduction of pest control animals, etc)? No industrial fertilizers, pesticides, weedicides, etc? Could you give me an example of this type of farming practice and how successful it is?

Again, not all animal husbandry systems grow special feed crops. A healthy diet based only on plants, especially in countries with limited agricultural capabilities (like cold or dry climates), would require imported goods which are highly processed and need to be transported great distances (= pollution by industry and transport -> indirect large scale harm). Wouldn't supporting local small scale and free-range systems be the best option?

Veganism in India? Do you mean "Brahminical" vegetarianism (which is a can of worms, in itself)? As an Indian (who is a part of the major, a.k.a non-vegetarians), I would like to know what you meant by this.

Yes, animals need to be bred and killed, but not unnecessarily. Since you brought up "ancient systems", you must also be aware of how ancient systems respect and care for animals, their deaths are revered and every part of an animal is used. I call it western (global-north) and urban because it appears to ignore these (from Western point, one may refer to them as indigenous) sustainable and symbiotic practices, just because "they" made the mistake of industrialising the system to an unsustainable level.

hhiki

“Many countries don’t have industrial animal agriculture.”

Even if some farms are small, the overall system is still industrial. Milk, meat, and eggs are processed, packaged, and distributed through large corporations. Small farms still rely on industrial slaughterhouses and transport. Small farms don’t erase the ethical issues either. The same harms still occur like forced breeding, calf separation, slaughter of male calves, and early death of cows.

there aren't any non-petroleum based fabrics that practically work well in cold (below 0 °C) climates

Most people already wear synthetic winter gear, not wool.

Are you telling me that one can run an organic farm, without any animal husbandry (including bee keeping, introduction of pest control animals, etc)? No industrial fertilizers, pesticides, weedicides, etc? Could you give me an example of this type of farming practice and how successful it is?

You can. It's called veganic farming. You use compost, green manure, crop rotation, mulching, and nitrogen fixing plants. Animals aren’t required to grow food.

Wouldn't supporting local small scale and free-range systems be the best option?

No. Animal farming including small farms require more land, water, crops, transport and more emissions. Feeding plants to animals and then eating the animals is always less efficient than eating plants directly.

Veganism in India? Do you mean "Brahminical" vegetarianism (which is a can of worms, in itself)?

No. Veganism is not tied to cast, not tied to religion, not tied to purity rules. It’s simply avoiding animal exploitation.

animals need to be bred and killed, but not unnecessarily. Since you brought up "ancient systems", you must also be aware of how ancient systems respect and care for animals, their deaths are revered and every part of an animal is used.

They only “need” to be killed if we decide to keep using them. If we stop using them, the “need” disappears, even if ancient cultures treated animals with more ritual respect, animals were still bred, controlled and killed. “Respectful slaughter” is still slaughter. Ancient practices don’t automatically justify modern choices. Tradition doesn’t override ethics.

caffinatedsmolbeing

So you are pro-industry. Again, I’m not saying animal husbandry is perfect, but veganism is an industrial solution.

Manure, by definition, is using animal excrement. To grow crops, you need animals. Only compost and fertilizer made purely from plants is not enough to maintain enough yield. You avoided the obvious question about weedicides and pesticides.

We, humans, are omnivores by biology. We need to eat animal products, if we want to live a healthy life without industrial supplements.

Synthetic fibres are petroleum derivatives. Polyester is made from petroleum. They’re insanely detrimental to the environment, from how petroleum is extracted to processing it, distribution systems and its eventual non-biodegradability. Are you claiming that if many people already do it, then it’s okay?

You didn’t specify what this “ancient vegan” system in India is. Vegetarianism, in India, is highly linked to caste, purity and religion. Anyone who claims that it is either ignorant or is on the oppressor’s side (and wants to keep the status quo in their favour).

anti vegan veganism I'm done with this conversation if I don't get straight answers