I would guess that scar is either from a riding accident or something like that where he tore the skin or maybe from his 3rd surgery, to get the cortico-periosteal free flap

I think this is probably correct (x)... idk enough about medicine to be definitive obvs and the surgical scar seems WAY down south to be from the third surgery which i thought they pulled from his hip, BUT i found a pic from march of 2021 (4 months after that surgeryish) and it looks MUCH newer so it probably was from that surgery

also lol

hi hello i'm back from the dead (temporary) and during the race yesterday. for the split second while marc was falling it seemed like he'd land right in front of the whole pack and now i need to dissect vale's reaction to that

oh my goooooood… okay FIRST we have to remember a few of things here. three pronged attack. 1. vale is hot girl repressed and has been convincing himself marc is the evilest motorcycle racer who ever lived for the better part of a decade, 2. the FACE he made when marc went FLYINGGGGG through the air last year at valencia (with jorge martin also crashing, this won pecco the title). like. okay! FUCK YOU! but. it also kind of pulls into perspective the fact that this IS a very normal part of the sport, and probably once marc got up and started moving (IT DID LOOK BAD THOUGH.) he was like okay hell yeah. protege wins second title. enemy crashed. ideal situation here.

3. my king is still SO fucking weird about injury in comparison to all these insane bitches and has been for a long time. but mostly post sic. he hates hearing about it, he CARES about the safety of himself and others, and he tries to instill that in those around him especially his large excitable homoerotic children. who never once listen to him. i’m THINKING of all of those riders safety meetings that he was at every goddamn race and would basically lead until sepang happened and he ghosted them for years either to avoid marc or as an impotent “protest” against racing direction. like he is VERY COMPLEX on this issue and he balances the plates of safety BUT he WILL let one drop if the grudge is there. and it’s there !! it’s been dropped !!!

so all of this to say. vale IS weird about injury. but he’s used to it. and he occasionally lets the petty streak shine the fuck through. so when something like that happens to MARC it’s all wrapped up in this. insane emotional cocktail i think (repression features here ! i really think it does !! tell yourself you hate him so if he gets injured WHICH HE WILL you care less !!!!). like he’ll cheer when marc crashes if it benefits his academy kid, but ALSO the most concrete step he ever took towards reconciliation was in 2016 after the rider in moto2 died, and he said that their feud wasn’t important in the scheme of something like that happening (SO much to think about like. he told the press and MARC that things had changed. amd that they could put it behind them but they really HADNT and he DIDNT.) so i think he has these flashes of concern and relief and doubt and resentment and WORRY alllllll of the time because marc does insane shit all of the time, but rarely does he let himself reach out about it… the resentment HAS to keep him warm at night so he ignores his better angels… i may care about you, but NEVER forget i still hate you….

I may be wrong, but didn’t Valentino admit to running Marc wide at the time?? Which is what his penalty was ultimately based on? Obviously, emotionally the kick exists beyond that lol

lol yes he did! heres his 2015 statement from right after the race:

and heres what he said in 2024 on migabol (im including some of the stuff he says about argentina/assen 15 bc i think its relevant to how his attitude has shifted about marc. even in sepang it isnt "he wanted to slow me down," its "he wanted to knock me off" which. dude that was YOU lmao. theres a lot of rationalizing prior behavior into this narrative that isnt actually THAT old in my opinion):

i will say that i dont find it particularly useful to gotcha him (same as the fan stuff in marc's room) because its not actually ABOUT either of those things for him its about how he FEEELSSSS... you arent going to sit him down and show him a logic powerpoint on marc and get him to change his mind even if he knows its true because the primary emotion is insecurity and betrayal and everything kind of springs from the well of those emotions. THATS the thing you would have to undo and he isnt inclined to do that because it would make the insecurity thing worse. oh i lost because of me. because i couldnt do it because i started a fight because i wasnt good enough. and this fight lets him pin it on marc and absolve himself of anyyyyy responsibility because anger is easier than admitting weakness! also the yes men around him who are also working to preserve his ego would need to be eliminated in order for that to even remotely be a possibility and he loves his yes man those are his #boys. so yeah none of this is going away any time soon !!!!

MotoGP casual here who has been getting into it more lately... I'm curious do you have insight on Alex's attitude towards Valentino? Do we know if he like hates him on Marc's behalf or what

scream well he hasn’t said anything but uh. i think there’s some feelings that can be inferred. i think we can draw some conclusions. like here he is in parc ferme at barcelona 2014 (laughing!) and here he is at PI 2017 (stone faced.)… their dad is also on record basically being like if you mess with one of them the other one does not forgive does not forget and will retaliate so that to me is a hint in that direction. and then there’s marc being lowkey trapped into always (truthfully lmao) answering vale as well as dani for childhood racing hero questions while alex is NOT on camera saying valeee <3 1 million times from a young age so he can just be like. dani pedrosa :) which i have to imagine is only partly the truth but HE gets to say whatever he wants and he’s not about to give that many any props whatsoever. like here they are in a video about their earliest motogp memory where literally every person on the grid except for alex says vale lol:

so again he hasn’t said much publicly in a DIRECT way but i think there’s some clues pointing towards less than fuzzy feelings for vale writ large. yayyyy

re: lucalex interactions through the years, when i tried to dig up stuff about them ages ago i found this post + interesting tags and inquired / tried to research further but only got hints at the crash at the end of this article (gpone unforch). couldnt find anything about luca yapping to media so grain of salt etc (however. my research skills in any language not english / german do suck so. maybe you or someone else could find more if so inclined!)

scream yeah i went digging on motomatters (it was nowhere on the english OR spanish versions of motorsports.com and searching therace.com is annoyinggg) and found it mentioned only in a comment section for a moto2 recap article complaining about the restart procedure during the race. dave u are correct lowkey but u ARE being kinda funny about it. i ALSO found jlo whacking vale for towing and vale bringing up 2015 in defense which was fun. yay toxicity

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If i had to guess when they signed their merch deal it was around 2011-2012 bc marc’s 2010 championship tshirts do not look like the same manufacturer who made valentino + others merch around 2008-9-10 and also his 2010 125cc championship shirts were honestly just made in microsoft word with wordart, not custom made by a designer. When he won his moto2 championship i think there was a mascot with his ant designed by valentino’s designer with him. So anywhere from after 2010 to start of 2012 i think. But i have zero proof lol

okay with the knowledge that this is all inference and not like. verified reporting lol, EYE think you are right and i think its 2012... its hard to know for sure bc marc is out for the last spanish races of the season for #diplopia so i cant peep his fanclub as easily in 2011 but in catalunya (and aragon!) they look like this:

and that is pretty much the same look as 2010 (DEF pre vale contract by all appearances from his championship clip art shirt):

and then by 2012 the ant appears on his helmet at catalunya and his pitboard and his team championship t-shirts AND on his official merch (which looks way different and more professional). and we know that the ant design was done by vale's merch/helmet designer guy, so they probably started the contract in that year:

so i think its pretty fair to assume that the contract ran from 2012-2015, and it was SUPPOSED to run through 2016 but um. some not so chill stuff happened and MARC said why the fuckkkk am i making you money. then pulled the plug on the arrangement, got alex out of there as well (alex's mascot thing used to be a GUN ? or a cannon. a gunpowder powered propulsion weapon. that was blue.) and apparently paid up a pretty hefty lump sum to wiggle out of it as well. its also notable that the sepang fallout is the reason that marc and alex actually bought their own motorhome. like it fundamentally changed sooo much of how he moved in the paddock its kinda crazy

source: motomatters thanks dave

something something marc looking back and changing his perspective of the ranch day, making it the turning point of their relationship in his mind, the start of their downfall, etc., because stripping it of its fun and imagining the growing distrust and conflict underneath is easier than fully remembering the sheer joy and happiness (and love) that they had competing against each other that day. easier to not have that one last pure beautiful battle between them in his memory. or something

about thissss. i reserve the right to change my mind but DO think it honestly comes out of his desire to make sense of the end of their relationship because i lowkey think it was a confusing experience for him and HE thought he was behaving consistently through the entire relationship (and he wasss but that was kind of part of the problem. circumstances change and marc did not) and vale was the one who shifted the goalposts on him so there MUST be a reason why. there must be an impetus to point to. and vale was the one he though was behaving badly in argentina and sepang the next year so i can see a world where he thinks it MUST have been the ranch visit, where marc beat him for fastest lap at his own house and crucially they spent more time together than they had EVER over the course of a couple of weekends with the misano race + karting thing. marc voice wow yeah that makes sense to ME and is an excellent rhetorical tool to use in explaining this to the masses on my tv show. vale was a sore loser then which dovetails nicely with him being a sore loser later. okay. marc loves a + b = c ! so he says this:

and honestly i ALSO think theres a few contemporary(ish) accounts from late 2015 that claim vale was upset with marc about how that all went down (a few articles running about bringing the bike pissing him off, which all come from "paddock insiders" which could mean ANYONE) so it makes sense that marc would pick up on those as well, especially if hes uh. Not the most adept at reading the fault lines of this particular relationship, which i really dont know if he is lol. MOST of em emerge around sepang so theres obviously some confirmation bias as well. like take with a grain of salt but a lot of "paddock insiders" as well as marc think that was the impetus of the beef, so it MIGHT be true lol. at least a little bit. but vale's never mentioned it! (not that he ever would lmao)

and tbh like most contemporary accounts just say that it went really well... apparently marc said he couldnt sleep the night after (no original source for that particular comment, but a lot of my sources for this come from THIS post, which lays out an argument for goings on in itself), then follows it up by basically saying he wanted to haul vale's ass to cervera and do it all again

and marc basically used it as reason their relationship WASNT falling apart in april 2015 after the argentina snafu. he was like see he took me to the ranch we are friends. that is evidence we are friends. which i always thought was kind of a point against his "we were changed after the ranch visit" argument

like in 2014/early 2015 he was i think demonstrably happy with how it happened and their relationship. he also still listed it as a positive experience that he remembers well in 2018. now for a lot of these hes giving interviews to tv pundits/journos and it makes sense that he would be nice abt it, but still all we have is his word so... and honestly he speaks on their relationship in depth/truthfully SO rarely that his opinion on it in 2015 until his injury is imo kind of shrouded in his epic mystery.

so honestly the bike stuff is interesting (marc maybe not as much of an asshole as previously thought for me at the ranch booooo... so maybe the issue WAS more just speed like what MARC thinks, instead of necessarily the equipment, esp considering vale GAVE him some equipment) but tbh this doesnt change much for me, and what i think is MOST interesting is that vale has never spoken on it because according to him he thinks everything started in argentina 2015 and marc already hated him and wanted him to crash (im so interested how far back vale thinks marc's "hatred" goes like. he always acts like its an inherent marc trait lol)

sorry i’m still thinking about ur post from earlier… the way marc reduced his public strip dancing routines by 80% like the second he got that ducati seat

I was so wondering if you would have any thoughts about that take as the premier marc scholar (was going to say 'of motogpblr' but let's be honest, probably among the premier marc scholars on earth just in general). Like I said I'm not a marc scholar so in an effort to tbh invent a psychosexual torment for him (as one does)(for the sake of the ask) I was kind of thinking through my mental list of percieved marc marquez complexes and I was like, I feel like the intimate implications of 'you're in love and you go marc marquez' [my mental shorthand for having NO boundaries as far as protecting himself from the intensity of his desires] is well theorized. Like if he did want, he would do anything anything, especially physically [redacted redacted redacted etc as many scholars have described]. As in like, intensity or willingness to give himself over 150% is not an issue, if the will is there.

So then I was thinking, let me explore another marc complex 'no tiene amigos marc marquez' , my mental shorthand for his narrow list of attachments, but also the way that (and sorry I'm saying this in a good faith way for the sake of analysis) HE IS ANNOYING AND NO ONE LIKES HIM!!! to me this is actually one of the most interesting things about him. like I know his team and people who have worked really closely with him love him a lot, and obviously he has a lot of adoring fans, but you get the impression that for various reasons he is difficult to be close to (primarily i think because he's very intense and sometimes both in daily life and in critical moments either cannot or chooses not to tone that down?). But actually the interesting part to me is the fact that it DOES seem to upset him that he's historically had trouble connecting, it upsets him that historically he has ended up getting a lot of people on his bad side and he IS very conscious about it now. I liked this season when he was like, "don't go after bez for crashing into me" [implicit: "i know what it's like to be the target of ill will you didn't mean to engender. i remember what you people (media, fans) did to ME"]. But anyway, I think it was you who was saying that he seems to really WANT to be liked. meanwhile unfortunately not being about to turn off the part of his personality that sticks people where it hurts lol. I'm ramblinggg but I guess my observation is that he's not the kind of ultra driven ultra successful athlete that doesn't give a shit about what people think of him or how he's branding himself because he thinks his titles speak for themselves.... he wants to appeal to people too. he doesn't like not being liked.

anyway, then for the sake of the ask in an effort to theorize out the possible intimate implications of no tiene amigos marc marquez...i was like idk 'what sexual disease do you get from having no friends and feeling bad about it that also makes you whore yourself out on stage, in sponcon, in documentaries about your personal life........ and then I came up with the theory presented in the previous ask.

I guess the question then is, can we tell if he Enjoys or tbh even just Doesn't Mind the "whoring out," ? or would he not do it so much if it wasn't so useful to him and if he didn't have a no tiene amigos complex!? I think we have largely as a community worked under the theoretical framework that marc marquez is inherently a WHORE (to use the term of art), and that he likes the attention in and of itself, that he likes the sensuality in and of itself. I am simply asking, SHOULD we consider the possibility that he is actually not inherrently into it?

I am not enough of a marc scholar to evaluate this question to be honest because I can't track his trends and his tells very well. I can only wonder if it's Theoretically possible. But like YOU are saying, is there possible evidence against the marc slut-for-slutiness-sake thesis? Reducing his strip routines post locking in the Ducati seat? Other possible evidence I can think of...:

Anyway. LOL. Callie you probably have at your fingertips better and more comprehensive evidence that could help us with this theoretical investigation into whether Marc is a WHORE or an ASEXUAL CATHOLIC PORN STAR. Please do let us know your further thoughts.