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Ominous Fish

@deathknightfish

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Stressed, depressed, bisexual mess
22, INFP, witch bitch

wait i'm sorry the whole anti/pro thing is about whether or not it's ok to SHIP FICTIONAL CHARACTERS IN GENERAL???

THAT is the problem???

like, not an argument between shipping age differences or non-con or abuse or anything, but shipping IN GENERAL???

oh my god

get better hobbies

learn your fandom history

i can't even with fandom fetuses

i need to lie down

It's more complicated than that (but just as stupid).

The term "anti" (short for "anti-shipper") started as a term for people who just didn't like a specific ship originally (like, say, someone who didn't like people shipping Mulder and Scully), but that usage was just standard fan discourse -- not a moral judgement. Like you'd casually drop that you were anti-a specific ship just because you didn't like it, not because you thought the people shipping it were morally wrong for doing so.

Think of it like how people would root for a sports team. Standard fandom rivalry stuff.

The modern usage really joined the party in 2016 though -- right here on Tumblr largely. And you're right, it was for people who were anti certain kinds of darker ships. But unlike the "antis" of the past, this wasn't about not wanting to read those things, it was about the existence of people who enjoyed those ships being morally wrong as well.

And what qualified as "problematic" kept expanding with those people. It sounds reasonable to most people when someone says they're anti-pedophilia in the fiction they consume. But then you find out they consider a story where a person is depicted as a child at some point in fiction means any adult romantic pairing must be "pedophilic." Or that a character is "child coded" because they're short. Or that a three year age gap between adults is "grooming." Literally everything

And, again, if this was just people choosing not to engage with those stories, no one would care. Like if exploring darker stuff bothers you, you should definitely not consume that kind of content. But instead they've gone after fanfic writers, websites, and people who enjoy it.

They've literally contacted the FBI about AO3.

Antis, fundamentally, can't differentiate between fiction and reality. They believe the fiction someone consumes reflects actions in the real world. Like they believe that everyone who consumes non-con stories wants to rape people (never mind that some survivors use the topic to explore their trauma). It's a fundamentally deranged way to look at the world, and used as a justification for harassment and censorship.

So, people getting frustrated with these "antis/anti-shippers," who wanted to go back to the traditional "ship and let ship" philosophy that fandom spaces were built on, decided to give themselves a name. At first it was "anti antis," but later settled on the inverse of "anti-shipper" with "pro-shipper."

But, of course, the "antis" need to cast anyone who idealogically opposes them as a bad person, so you can imagine that things just get worse from here.

guy sitting in front of me in class was vandalizing wikipedia and i kept reverting his edits as soon as he made them and he couldn't figure out why it was happening

absolutely

[ID: a tag by weirdlizard26, reading, “ive never seen death note but i think this is what death note is”. /end ID]

sometimes i be saying im gonna go to bed and then i dont go to bed. frequently in fact. this is because i have the heart of an optimist and the soul of a liar

Once the results are done, I'll multiply 255 to the decimal version of the percentage, and see what color we make!!

Here's the result!! A nice lookin color, good work everyone!

i believe we've reached a consensus

Random headcanon: the reason that Peach and Bowser don’t seem to get a lot of respect in some Super Mario games is because the Mushroom Kingdom is kind of a rural backwater and isn’t terribly important or influential politically, so people tend to regard Bowser as a C-list villain for being so hung up on such an insignificant conquest. Nobody really expects Bowser to be a serious threat – that would be like expecting a guy whose main claim to fame is repeatedly failing to conquer Wyoming to be a serious threat – so they get taken by surprise every single time.

So what you’re saying is that Bowser is more or less on the same level of villainy as Dr. Doofenshmirtz?

Oh, quite the opposite – point him at any target that isn’t the Mushroom Kindgom and he’s this massive outside context problem that rolls over entire armies and cracks planets in half. It’s just the Mushroom Kingdom in particular he can’t seem to figure out, and that bothers him terribly.

The obvious implication is that, like, Mario is an A-tier hero who happens to live in a C-tier nation.

Like, if Clark Kent hadn’t moved to the big city for a reporting job, he’d still be Superman. And there’s be some villain who tried to knock over a bank in Bumfuck Kansas and wound up having a very bad day.

(And eventually we have Lex Luthor spending a huge amount of time trying and failing to run some penny-ante scheme in rural Kansas and failing, and no one can take him seriously despite the fact that he’s just as competent as he would be in canon.)

In Oregon there lives a species of snake capable of surviving tetrodotoxin doses strong enough to kill animals thousands of times their size. This is because they evolved alongside a species of poisonous newt which they consume regularly, which produces ludicrous amounts of a poison thousands of times stronger than cyanide. They got to this point by fighting each other in the same bumfuck nowhere habitat for millions of years. The newts got more toxic to fight the snakes. The snakes got better immunity to keep eating newts. Now we’re left with snakes capable of eating some of the most poisonous creatures alive, and newts so deadly that they are inedible to anything other than these snakes.

What I’m trying to say is that Mario and Bowser are the result of two evenly-matched overpowered idiots fighting the same battle for decades. The consequences only become clear when you square them up to literally anything else.

These are the outlandish and logical takes I want on my dash

Tragedy alignment chart. Feel free to use, but please reblog if you do.

[ Begin ID: An alignment chart where the X-Axis labels are "It was always going to end this way" and "It didn't have to end this way", while the Y-Axis labels are "You were in control" and "You had no control" / End ID ]

I hate when another car forces you to park terribly but then they leave before you and it’s just like great. Well now my atrocious park job is deprived of context and I look like an asshole

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*coughs* Friendly doll person here.

So Mattel came out with different Barbie body types a couple years ago, right? There’s your normal body, but there’s also Curvy, Petite, and Tall now.

Around the same time, they came out with the Made to Move body, which has a ton more articulation than your normal Barbie.

Customizers love the Made to Move body, because hey, a lot more fun positions to put a doll in for photographing. But now Mattel has started making the Made to Move dolls with the additional body types from above. We’ve gotten a Curvy Made to Move doll so far, afaik.

This Queen Elizabeth doll, though? Is the first time there’s been a Petite Made to Move body released by Mattel. So customizers were buying it up not out of any care about Queen Elizabeth — but they were buying it to pop her head right off and use the new body for other dolls!

The thing i like the most about tumblr is learning tiny details about communities i would otherwise not even be aware of. thank you for this info

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