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So well said! I’ve been working on a meta on Qui-Gon Jinn that is exactly along these lines. Qui-Gon wasn’t perfect and he had his own problems, but he really was the ideal teacher and father-figure for little Anakin. And if he went back to rescue Shmi (I think he might have) they could have raised Anakin so well, with input from big brother Obi-wan! Anakin would have fulfilled the prophecy without falling to the Dark Side I think, He wouldn’t be perfect, would still have his struggles and flaws, but with family around him, loving and guiding and believing in him? Oh he would brought balance and changed the galaxy all right! With his family and Padme at his side, Anakin could have challenged Palpatine and taken the Sith down! And then transformed the Jedi Order.

Instead, Anakin is left with a master who didn’t want him or believe in him, actually he thought Ani dangerous! Just like all the Jedi Council did. Unwanted, bullied and criticized, Anakin found unexpected solace from an old man, the Chancellor, who was willing to listen without judging and offer advice and encouragement. That same man was the Sith Lord, Darth Sidious who took advantage of the Jedi callous disregard and fear of Anakin to draw him further away and gain his trust. So that, in the end, when Anakin was desperate and trapped, he chose Sidious over the Jedi. Seriously, with Qui-Gon alive things would have been so much better!

Alas a tragedy is what follows

So glad you agree! SW fandom can be really bizarre about Qui-Gon’s character. They fixate on the weirdest things, make bad faith interpretations, and completely miss the point of his role in the story. Yes, absolutely, it is implied Qui-Gon would have gone back for Shmi. He was in a very difficult position in TPM….he was pressed for time to get back to Coruscant and then to Naboo (a war zone). When he said he hadn’t come to free slaves, he didn’t mean that he personally didn’t WANT to free the slaves (on the contrary, he goes out of his way to try to free both Shmi and Ani). In my opinion, that statement is NOT supposed to be an indictment of Qui-Gon as an individual; it is more of a commentary on the priorities of the Jedi Order and the Republic that the Order serves. (See also Padme’s surprise and dismay that slavery still exists in the galaxy.) What Qui-Gon is saying is that his official *mission* is to help Naboo and to get back to Coruscant—that’s what he was sent to do. It’s just a fact. He wants to be HONEST with Shmi so she doesn’t have false hopes or expectations, especially since he’s not yet sure if he can intervene with her and Ani at that point. All his interactions with Shmi are very warm and affectionate, to the point that 13 year old me shipped Qui-Gon x Shmi really hard! They had amazing chemistry. All their scenes are portrayed as though they are a adoptive family (sitting around a table, his hand on her shoulder, him being fatherly toward Ani, etc). There’s no way Qui-Gon would just forget about Shmi and never come back to free her. But he had to get back to Coruscant and I’m sure he knew it would already be quite fraught to bring Ani back to the Temple as it was, let alone with his mother in tow. Qui-Gon asks Shmi if she will be alright, and she says yes. Shmi wants Ani to go with him, she trusts him completely to care for her son, based on how she’s seen him be with Anakin during his time on Tatooine. (And don’t forget Padme is there too, Shmi sees how kind Padme is. In the TPM novelization, Padme even feels that Shmi wants her to look out for Ani.) And Shmi is not wrong to trust Qui-Gon, if we base things simply on a judgment of his character and actions. He DOES stand up for little Ani in those cold Council chambers. He puts Ani’s needs first. It’s just the twist of fate and the fact Qui-Gon doomed by the narrative that removes him from that much-needed protective position in Ani’s life. But if Qui-Gon had lived, I have no doubt he’d have gone back for Shmi. How would he have continued caring for Ani so warmly and NOT at least made sure Ani knew she was ok, you know? My headcanon has always been that if he survived the Duel of the Fates, he’d have taken Ani and trained him elsewhere, outside of the Jedi Order. This would have kept Ani from Sidious’ grasp. And this would have also allowed them to go back for Shmi, free her, and even have her live with them or near them while Ani trained. And then, yes, everything you say above is certainly how things would pan out in that Happy (or at least, Happier) AU scenario. :’)

Bizarre about Qui-gon is right! I’m so happy to meet someone else who loves Qui-gon’s character! We are very rare it seems. From what I’ve read around fandom, a large part of the dislike of Jinn comes from the book series, “Jedi Apprentice” about Obi-wan’s apprenticeship with him that came out after TPM. It poorly portrays Qui-gon throughout and started the ‘Woobie-wan’ trend and thinking oh he had it so hard etc, trying to compensate for the fact that Obi-wan is a stuck up, snarky jerk in TPM. Except the movie made it clear they were a good team and cared about each other deeply, even when they disagreed. There was never anything in any of the films to indicate the Qui-gon was this horrible master and teacher who didn’t deserve to teach Obi-wan or that he was obsessed with the “Chosen One” prophecy. Recognizing prophecy being fulfilled in front of you and telling the others in the Order is not obsessed! It’s logical especially since he brought the boy to them so they could see and judge themselves. Jinn just didn’t think they’d completely dismiss the prophecy and Anakin like they did. He got a little too confident there that they would see what he saw. Considering what he’d seen on Tatooine and learned about Anakin as he got to know the open hearted slave boy, it’s understandable. It’s also why Jinn asked Anakin be tested because he had formed an opinion and was at least trying to be objective and ask that the Council be open minded as well and see for themselves! Unfortunately, they were most definitely not objective or interested in actually listening to Jinn.

This leads to why Qui-gon made a point of asking Obi-wan to train Anakin and reiterated his belief that he was the chosen one. For one, as Anakin’s guardian he had a very short time to entrust the child’s care to someone. Who better than his own padawan? But Obi-wan didn’t believe in Anakin like Qui-gon, but saw him as dangerous. Qui-gon had to convince Obi-wan training Anakin was necessary so he restated his belief that Anakin is the Chosen one. And Qui-gon knew both Obi-wan and Anakin and imo knew they could comfort and support one another with Qui-gon gone. It’s a horrible position for a parent to be in, for them to put their children in, but sometimes it’s all the parent has time to offer. And initially we see it fortify Obi-wan enough to challenge Yoda concerning training Anakin because Obi-wan promised he would! And Yoda…Yoda fills Obi-wan with doubt, saying Obi-wan doesn’t need Qui-gon’s defiance, that Anakin was someone to be feared because he didn’t fit the Jedi mold. (I’ve really come to dislike Yoda, stupid green troll!) This is also the last time Obi-wan ever really pushes back against the Jedi Council or Yoda at all and, well, we see how that plays out.

Sorry, went on a tangent there! But honestly I agree with everything you said, and even shipping Qui-gon and Shmi! I did as well at ten when I first saw the film. There was just something between them that made them seem like a possible couple. Little hints and looks… and I love what you said about Qui-gon being HONEST about not being there to free slaves. That’s not his mission, but that doesn’t mean he personally doesn’t care. It is a little cold, but it’s also the truth and Qui-gon didn’t want to raise the Skywalkers hopes for nothing. And it’s that honesty I think that prompted Shmi to trust him. Part was necessity; she a slave and she wants better for her son. She wants him to be free! Qui-gon represented a chance there. But it’s notable also what Shmi said when Anakin made his case to race his own podracer to win the Outlanders the money they needed to but the parts to repair their ship: “There is no other way. I may not like it, but he can help you. He was meant to help you.”

Shmi Skywalker had to be force sensitive herself. I’ve always believed that. And she, like Anakin, had a gift for knowing the future. Shmi felt it, just like Qui-gon later said he would take Anakin to the Jedi for training because, “Our meeting was not a coincidence. Nothing happens by accident.” This meeting between the Skywalkers and the Outlanders was a turning point. And all of them played a crucial role in events that followed, big or small. Qui-gon, Padme, Jar Jar, and Artoo plus Shmi Skywalker and her son Anakin and the protocol droid, Threepio; it was them on whom the wheel of fate rested and on them who it crushed. And I think Shmi sensed that just as much as she knew Anakin was meant to go beyond Tatooine. As it turned out, while Qui-gon was doomed to die by the narrative, Anakin was crucial to stalling the galaxy impending doom wrought by the Sith. Because Anakin was meant to help the Outlanders, particularly those who stayed in his home like Shmi said. I have found it odd how people forget that Anakin was the reason the Naboo were victorious over the Trade Federation. Everyone played an important role, but without Anakin and his simple desire to help people, they would have failed. War would have erupted then instead of ten years later. Qui-gon and Shmi were both right, yet no one cares. And the end result is disaster as darkness falls over all.

Sorry, this has gotten way too long! And is a good chunk of the meta I’ve been working on, lol 😆

Cheers!

Aw, no need to apologise, I appreciate yet another excellent response…so much in here I agree with!

Regarding those infamous Jedi Apprentice books, I’ve never read them, and have zero interest in doing so. RIP to ‘Woobie-Wan’, but I have no time for that fanon version of him, I like my Obi-Wan canon-based and FLAWED, thank you very much. 😤 And that’s exactly it, I only take the six-film Lucas saga (PT x OT) as 100% canon. While I have no issue utilising supplementary material (such as the TPM novelisation referenced in this post), I ONLY do so if it supports the main canon story and characterisation.

The issue with ANY EU material that was written prior to the completion of the saga in 2005 (RotS finished the story as Lucas told it), is that it’s only basing its premise on a partially told tale. A lot of people at the time of TPM’s relase might not have realised that Qui-Gon’s claim that Anakin was the Chosen One WAS actually going to turn out to be true. There were many people who thought that because Anakin eventually becomes Vader, that Qui-Gon must be mistaken and wrong (and thus that his dying request to Obi-Wan was an unfounded and unfair burden), which imo is another potential explanation for mischaracterising him in those stories. It’s beyond frustrating that people don’t realise that TPM was supposed to evoke the feeling of a golden-age of Hollywood biblical drama, and that Qui-Gon’s search for the Chosen One was meant to be viewed positively. The fact that Lucas eventually explained that, yes, Anakin IS the Chosen One and REMAINED the Chosen One even after he became Vader was such a fantastic, mind-blowing re-framing of the saga which unfortunately many viewers STILL never understood until the Mortis arc of the Clone Wars came along (and even then ….some people *cough* disney *cough* still haven’t gotten the memo.) So the premise of those JA series (that Qui-Gon was ‘wrong’ and Obi-Wan was ‘right’) is erroneous to begin with, and therefore its very easy to discard it as non-canon. The EU was never considered canon on the same level or ‘tier’ as the films anyway, and it’s examples like this that demonstrate why. The current Disney-era has confused people into thinking that anything marked ‘canon’ must all be taken at face value on the same level as every other piece of so-called ‘canon’ media, not realisng that back in the old days the EU had different 'levels’ or 'tiers’ of canon, and always, always the main Lucas films had the final say of what was considered 100% canon.

In general, this is a huge problem with SW fandom—far too many people refuse to see the PT x OT saga as a single, completed story that can be augmented by supplementary material, but which ultimately exists whole and independent of anything else. I often get the impression that certain SW fans would prefer the Jedi vs. Sith struggle to just somehow magically exist on its own rather than acknowledge that it was created in a very specific way to function as the backdrop of the Skywalker saga, aka Anakin’s story.

Which brings me to another point: THANK YOU for pointing out the fact that Anakin helped save the day during the Battle of Naboo, and that Anakin and Padme both worked together to prevent Palpatine’s plans of starting a galactic war ten years prior to the Clone Wars. This is a part of the story that means a great deal to me, that these two young, innocent people (neither of whom were Jedi at this point, interestingly enough) RUINED the plans of the Sith, and that this is a key factor in Sidious’ years-long scheme of 'revenge’ that comes to fruition in RotS. He hated both of them ever since the events of TPM, and planned for years to destroy them. When you think about the fact that Anakin and Padme were both CHILDREN when the evil Sith Lord started planning their respective downfalls…. you see what they were truly up against. I will never accept the idea that the Skywalker family are just a bunch of 'disasters’ when they are NOT. Their origins are deeply, purely heroic. Shmi, a (highly likely Force-sensitive) slave woman who just selflessly wanted a better life for her son. Ani, a slave boy who just wanted to help people because his loving mother taught him to do so (note how he is driven by positive personal attachments!). Padme, a child-queen who just wanted to save her world and her people, and ended up embracing outcasts and reconciling the two disparate societies of Naboo along the way.

So yeah. I will defend Qui-Gon, Anakin, and the entire Skywalker family from misconceptions and retconning slander until my dying breath, and even then I will return as a Force ghost to do so. 😅

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One of the many perils of engaging with Internet Discourse is that sometimes you realize after the fact that the person you were responding to is a literal child who has mistaken their first big feeling about a wildly complex adult topic for an informed opinion, at which point you have to just stare wearily into the middle distance like: ah, yes, this is my cosmic punishment for having once also been fourteen and convinced I knew everything.

Like. I’m not saying teens shouldn’t have access to these conversations or that they should be forced to identify themselves by age, because the negatives in both instances profoundly outweigh the positives. But I do think that, regardless of age, we should collectively start reintroducing a cultural respect for the idea that some people know more than you; that having feelings about something is not the same as understanding it; and that, while engaging in debate can be a good way to improve your grasp of a topic, this doesn’t apply if your starting position is a baseline level of hostility towards anything that doesn’t line up with the little you already think you know. There’s no shame in being less knowledgeable about something than others - by definition, everyone starts out with Baby’s First Opinion! - but you do need to understand that it is Baby’s First Opinion. You have to want to learn, and you simply can’t do that if you’ve mistaken knowing that a given issue exists for properly comprehending it.

Lurk Moar

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unearthlydust:

ROBERT ARAMAYO as ELROND
THE RINGS OF POWER

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evil-enby-osoka:

sometimes “but you don’t look disabled” is not even about the visibility of your disability. sometimes it’s about “you look like an actual person and i picture disabled people as some weird creatures that i can never ever meet and now my reality is crashed by the fact that i see an actual disabled person and they look like a person.”

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pearlsasinger:

his dark materials will literally always work bc every small child wants an animal companion that loves you most and goes on adventures with you and every adult wants an animal companion that can shoulder some of life’s immense psychologically damage for you. and you can pet it

And to tear down the feeble corpse of God! Every kid and adult wants that also!

ALT

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cock-holliday:

People love to say things like “Hiding Anne Frank was illegal, turning her in would have been legal” without like fully grasping the modern implications properly. You have tons of folks like “if WW2 happened today id have __” that do not realize what is happening around them.

We have this idolized AND sanitized version of what happened then, and so we do not recognize it when it happens now.

Resistance fighters assassinated nazis and blew up weapons and infrastructure and destroyed records and forged paperwork and raised secret funds and smuggled people in vehicles and yes, hid them in their homes.

“Well it’s sad he got sent to an ICE camp but he faked his permit :/“

Whoever helped him fake his paperwork did what fighters in ww2 did. People who cut through chain link fences do what fighters in ww2 did, people who blow whistles chasing after ice cars do what fighters in ww2 did, people who destroy arms factories and cop city cranes do what fighters in ww2 did, people unmask agents do what fighters in ww2 did.

People are doing it now! They’ve been doing it now! You keep saying “oh if this happened here__” it HAS! It IS!

What are you doing about it?

As someone on the front lines of the court system, I’m confirming this. It’s easy to assume that people are being hyperbolic. They’re not. People in the courthouse for speeding tickets and child support are being strongarmed into locked rooms and arrested, loaded into vans under tents behind the courthouse, and they built a fence with netting over it to prevent reporters and court watchers from photographing faces.

One local jail contracted with ICE voluntarily. We were getting close to forcing them to actually follow the rules of ICE detainers and release people if ICE hadn’t come for them. That’s over now. If anyone gets bond on a pending criminal charge, they are arrested and deported without the chance to prove innocence or guilt.

Two of my clients were victims of severe domestic violence. Nearly all have dependent children. Some of the children are US citizens. There are no questions. No support. Give your kids to CPS — this is the only option.

You know undocumented people can get a driver’s license? They can file taxes and get a tax ID? Those, the ones who tried to obey the law, are being taken out one by one, because their names are in a database that they voluntarily joined. Because they want to be here. They want to be Americans.

The judge in a case of mine gave someone a two-day jail sentence. Gone. Case deferrals for dismissal are available for all Americans; if an undocumented person tries to take the same deal, they’re gone. A child client of mine had his father disappear to ICE. A woman had her husband disappear.

It’s now. Detainees kept in horrible conditions, unfed, unwashed, no lawyers, no doctors. It’s now. Shipped to countries where they’ve never been and left without papers. It’s now. It’s now. It’s happening now. It’s happening now.

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biggest-gaudiest-poltergeist:

biggest-gaudiest-poltergeist:

straight up it should be illegal for a physical storefront not to accept physical currency, or for restaurants not to provide physical menus

I’m assuming the above is a normie opinion (as it should be) so i do wanna go a tiny step further and explicitly state any laundromat that requires digital payment should be burned to the fucking ground

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lelianasbong:

Templar Carver cracks me up. Man is working for Cullen “mages cannot be our friends” Rutherford and Meredith “I protect you mages from your curse and your own stupidity” Stannard and when Merrill starts stressing about being caught he hits her with the softest most sincere,

“Don’t you worry. It wasn’t - and won’t - be me. Have your fun :)”

HAVE YOUR FUN. Like she’s knitting tea cozies in her free time?? Baby that’s blood magic you are a TEMPLAR Carver you’re so fucking funny. The man that you are

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