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In my last post http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5224324 I showed one half of the Angel and Knight routine carry arsenal. Here is the other half.
Unlike Jessica Knight, Carla Angel did not grow up around firearms. In fact her parents are rather vocal in their support of gun control. Growing up in Palo Alto California she had no friends, immediate relatives or neighbors who were actively involved with them. Therefore many of her initial opinions about firearms were shaped by the media and the entertainment industry.
Therefore when she first met Jessica while attending San Jose State University her initial reaction was somewhat uncertain. Jessica's semi-rural and rather blue-collar background and experiences were completely alien to Carla. Also Jessica's strong, assertive personality rubbed Carla the wrong way in spots, but over time a very strong friendship grew between them.
Now it is still a rather common misconception that Private Investigators pack iron all the time. Actually most do not, nor do they have the permits to carry CCW. Also despite the dramatic car chases, roaring gunfights, and life or death adventures portrayed by Hollywood, most PI work involves combing through piles of government paperwork, days searching the web, and many hours making phone calls and driving around chasing leads, tips, and dead ends.
Still Jessica felt it would be in Carla's best interest to learn something about how firearms really worked and how to use them safely and effectively. Reluctantly Carla agreed. Also since Jessica did have CCW in a pinch she could hand Carla her backup if things started to go bad. In fact for awhile Jessica referred to herself as Carla's walking gun safe.
Initially Jessica trained Carla to just use double action revolvers, in particular the S&W Model 642, and the shotgun. Later when Carla along with Jessica were deputized as US Federal Marshall and Carla started to carry daily she upgraded to the Glock Model 19 in 9x19mm.
Carla is still not a gun person but she has learned to accept them and tries to commit herself to a weekly training regime. Also she has completed training courses at Thunder Ranch and the program run by the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
With the exception of the tritium night sights her Glock 19 is fairly stock. It is an earlier model which does not have the integral rail on the lower frame for mounting lasers or tactical lights. Due to her wardrobe habits and build Carla has opted to use an Inside the Waistband or IWB holster from Milt Sparks. for her main carry. The sketch on the bottom right shows it outside pants just so I could learn its scale relative to Carla. Her backup is a Kel-Tec P32 carried in a Kramer pocket holster.
Carla has found that the Model 19 seems to have the best form factor for her. She has tried the smaller Glock Model 26 but it was harder for her to draw and shoot quickly with the same accuracy as the Model 19. Also she has had no problems concealing the Model 19. She considered upgrading to Glock Model 23 which is the same pistol as the Model 19 but chambered in the more powerful .40 S&W cartridge, but after trying it several times she found her overall accuracy and time between shots and engaging multiple targets got longer. Therefore she has decided to stay with the Model 19. Also she knows that it is easier to find 9x19mm ammo in places outside the United States, and both her and Jessica have done work overseas on occasions while officially carrying.
Unlike Jessica Knight, Carla Angel did not grow up around firearms. In fact her parents are rather vocal in their support of gun control. Growing up in Palo Alto California she had no friends, immediate relatives or neighbors who were actively involved with them. Therefore many of her initial opinions about firearms were shaped by the media and the entertainment industry.
Therefore when she first met Jessica while attending San Jose State University her initial reaction was somewhat uncertain. Jessica's semi-rural and rather blue-collar background and experiences were completely alien to Carla. Also Jessica's strong, assertive personality rubbed Carla the wrong way in spots, but over time a very strong friendship grew between them.
Now it is still a rather common misconception that Private Investigators pack iron all the time. Actually most do not, nor do they have the permits to carry CCW. Also despite the dramatic car chases, roaring gunfights, and life or death adventures portrayed by Hollywood, most PI work involves combing through piles of government paperwork, days searching the web, and many hours making phone calls and driving around chasing leads, tips, and dead ends.
Still Jessica felt it would be in Carla's best interest to learn something about how firearms really worked and how to use them safely and effectively. Reluctantly Carla agreed. Also since Jessica did have CCW in a pinch she could hand Carla her backup if things started to go bad. In fact for awhile Jessica referred to herself as Carla's walking gun safe.
Initially Jessica trained Carla to just use double action revolvers, in particular the S&W Model 642, and the shotgun. Later when Carla along with Jessica were deputized as US Federal Marshall and Carla started to carry daily she upgraded to the Glock Model 19 in 9x19mm.
Carla is still not a gun person but she has learned to accept them and tries to commit herself to a weekly training regime. Also she has completed training courses at Thunder Ranch and the program run by the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
With the exception of the tritium night sights her Glock 19 is fairly stock. It is an earlier model which does not have the integral rail on the lower frame for mounting lasers or tactical lights. Due to her wardrobe habits and build Carla has opted to use an Inside the Waistband or IWB holster from Milt Sparks. for her main carry. The sketch on the bottom right shows it outside pants just so I could learn its scale relative to Carla. Her backup is a Kel-Tec P32 carried in a Kramer pocket holster.
Carla has found that the Model 19 seems to have the best form factor for her. She has tried the smaller Glock Model 26 but it was harder for her to draw and shoot quickly with the same accuracy as the Model 19. Also she has had no problems concealing the Model 19. She considered upgrading to Glock Model 23 which is the same pistol as the Model 19 but chambered in the more powerful .40 S&W cartridge, but after trying it several times she found her overall accuracy and time between shots and engaging multiple targets got longer. Therefore she has decided to stay with the Model 19. Also she knows that it is easier to find 9x19mm ammo in places outside the United States, and both her and Jessica have done work overseas on occasions while officially carrying.
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Yeah, i understand the reasons why so many pistols are going to polymer frames for construction, but grew up in the age of machined steel, or at least aluminum, and wood so I am still not as fond of the poly guns.
Also from a collector/ historian viewpoint I wonder whether in a hundred years or so whether future generations will be able to fire 100+ year Glocks the same way old Colts, Webleys, Mausers, S&W's can be today. Working in art materials industry we are starting to hear some possibly disturbing information about embrittlement of acrylic primed canvases due outgassing that are starting approach 50+ years. Also I have heard similar problems with plastic and resin parts on motor vehicles. Even if the parts have not been removed from their packaging or exposed to direct UV light.
Also from a collector/ historian viewpoint I wonder whether in a hundred years or so whether future generations will be able to fire 100+ year Glocks the same way old Colts, Webleys, Mausers, S&W's can be today. Working in art materials industry we are starting to hear some possibly disturbing information about embrittlement of acrylic primed canvases due outgassing that are starting approach 50+ years. Also I have heard similar problems with plastic and resin parts on motor vehicles. Even if the parts have not been removed from their packaging or exposed to direct UV light.
Nice work on this pic. You know, the first semi-auto pistol I ever fired was a Glock, albeit a full-size Glock 21 in .45 ACP instead of the Glock 19. I figured if I was going to shoot a Glock, I'd go with the largest caliber they offered. Like the saying goes; "go big or go home". It was my second handgun though; my first being a Ruger Speed Six in .357 Magnum with a 2" barrel. Got hammer-bit since I wasn't using a good grip at the time, but I know better now.
Hmm, this might explain why the Americans have such hype over the glocks, besides able to file down the firing pin to make it go full auto.
But they really do suck in cold weather, for we warn American troops coming to Canada on winter warfare FTXs not to bring the dam thing, for too many get injured when they go to shoot it and the plastic slider shatters from the cold and sprays into the operators face.
But they really do suck in cold weather, for we warn American troops coming to Canada on winter warfare FTXs not to bring the dam thing, for too many get injured when they go to shoot it and the plastic slider shatters from the cold and sprays into the operators face.
Er, filing down the firing pin on a Glock doesn't provide full auto. Quite the opposite, it provides a gun that won't fire at all. Also, I'm not certain what you mean by plastic slider. The slide of a Glock is not plastic. The plastic bits of a Glock serve for the grip, dustcover, and trigger guard. The rest of the stuff in the gun is metal, for the most part.
Well, we don't know what it is exactly the U.S. Marines file down, but they make them go full auto.
And something is up with them, for the upper receiver always explodes when they try to shoot when its freezing/cold out. So we say bring your Barrettes or something else then a glock, for we don't even use them either (hence why I don't know them xD).
And something is up with them, for the upper receiver always explodes when they try to shoot when its freezing/cold out. So we say bring your Barrettes or something else then a glock, for we don't even use them either (hence why I don't know them xD).
Glocks which can fire full auto are from-the-factory that way (the Model 18). Part-swapping may be possible, though probably not without extensive modification.
Glocks are striker-fired. There is no part of the striker assembly which can be altered for full auto. The modification is to the trigger disconnector and the slide. There are websites that show a primitive homebrew version of this, but having seen what they are doing, I wouldn't do it (never mind the legality). The homebrew conversions involve altering the disconnector in a manner that is so fiddly and imprecise that you could easily ruin the weapon, turn it into an unreliable jam-prone mess, and possibly have the thing go full auto even when you have the selector set to single-fire, or fire when a cocked weapon is jolted or dropped.
Glocks are striker-fired. There is no part of the striker assembly which can be altered for full auto. The modification is to the trigger disconnector and the slide. There are websites that show a primitive homebrew version of this, but having seen what they are doing, I wouldn't do it (never mind the legality). The homebrew conversions involve altering the disconnector in a manner that is so fiddly and imprecise that you could easily ruin the weapon, turn it into an unreliable jam-prone mess, and possibly have the thing go full auto even when you have the selector set to single-fire, or fire when a cocked weapon is jolted or dropped.
filing down the pin on ANY gun provides shit. That Myth is just that. There is a tool to convert all Glocks safely to Full Auto, with minor modification to the frame. However owning it in the US is most likely highly illegal and imho it is also a big waste of ammo. Also the second army after the austrians to adopt it was Norway. And they also have very cold regions.
Yes Carla was very much in the beginning of the Angel and Knight dreams the nerdy tech girl who did not realize that she both more confident and attractive than she gave herself credit. A decade or so of association with Jessica, Olivia, Twitch, and Zonto has given much real, unreal, world experience.
If I remember the story correctly, and this was almost twenty years ago, the round of 9mm touched off that destroyed the Glock was double-loaded with powder. I don't remember whether it was a bad handload or really bad factory load. I do remember seeing the Glock after the fact and it did have a certain Jiffy Pop quality to it.
No, it was a double-tap in which the first round's bullet had wedged in the barrel due to lead fouling from a couple hundred high-pressure hard-cast lead rounds in a single session leading to barrel constriction. The second round couldn't go anywhere, and the pressure ran away during burn. Two wedged bullets were recovered from the barrel.
The pistol was a low-serial-number (between 200 and 300) .40S&W Glock model 22. Component jacketed .40 bullets were very hard to find due to the newness of the round. This, and the only load data which was available was for the S&W 4006 using Sierra 170gr JHP (the only jacketed .40 bullet with a weight less than 200 grains which was available to handloaders at the time). The S&W 4006 which was a cut-down 10mm, meaning it was massively overengineered. The Glock was a 9mm opened up to .40, ergo, less material. It had nonetheless performed very well for a thousand rounds, with no primer flattening firing-pin-opening-extrusions or nasty little stretch-rings at the top of the case' web. The load was developed conservatively. The error was in not taking into account increased pressures from lead fouling (no matter how hard the cast round, back off about 10% on your loads vs. jacketed). The pistol ate the handloads like candy, and would probably still be in service today had its diet been exclusively jacketed rounds. And believe me, 170 grains @ 1300fps is not bad at all for a glorified 9mm.
BTW, there was insufficient room in the handloads for a double-charge to be possible; as it was, a single charge was almost to the compressed charge stage.
It is worth noting that when the weapon was sent back to the factory, they discovered a metallurgical fault in the breech portion of the barrel, right at the point where the top of the breech had torn open. Even though they didn't have to (handloads void warranties) they replaced the pistol at their cost with a Glock 17 refurb. Glock takes care of its customers.
Why do I know this?
It was my gun, my handloads, and I was there at the time.
The pistol was a low-serial-number (between 200 and 300) .40S&W Glock model 22. Component jacketed .40 bullets were very hard to find due to the newness of the round. This, and the only load data which was available was for the S&W 4006 using Sierra 170gr JHP (the only jacketed .40 bullet with a weight less than 200 grains which was available to handloaders at the time). The S&W 4006 which was a cut-down 10mm, meaning it was massively overengineered. The Glock was a 9mm opened up to .40, ergo, less material. It had nonetheless performed very well for a thousand rounds, with no primer flattening firing-pin-opening-extrusions or nasty little stretch-rings at the top of the case' web. The load was developed conservatively. The error was in not taking into account increased pressures from lead fouling (no matter how hard the cast round, back off about 10% on your loads vs. jacketed). The pistol ate the handloads like candy, and would probably still be in service today had its diet been exclusively jacketed rounds. And believe me, 170 grains @ 1300fps is not bad at all for a glorified 9mm.
BTW, there was insufficient room in the handloads for a double-charge to be possible; as it was, a single charge was almost to the compressed charge stage.
It is worth noting that when the weapon was sent back to the factory, they discovered a metallurgical fault in the breech portion of the barrel, right at the point where the top of the breech had torn open. Even though they didn't have to (handloads void warranties) they replaced the pistol at their cost with a Glock 17 refurb. Glock takes care of its customers.
Why do I know this?
It was my gun, my handloads, and I was there at the time.
Ah! I had forgotten that it was your Model 17. I remember being shown the piece after it had gone boom. As I said initially it was twenty years ago and was not there for the fireworks only the picking up of the pieces. I do seem to remember though that at the time several people were of the opinion that the polymer frame actual saved the Zjonni's hand because the polymer frame warped but did not frag on him. Is that fact correct?
The force of the kaboom went straight up (blowing off the top of the breech and embedding it inthe acoustic tile of the range) and straight down (ejecting the magazine). All the energy was directed in the only two safe directions possible. The polymer frame probably helped, as it could stretch and thus absorb a bit of the energy. It was still a hell of a shock.
According to the Glock techs, the initial failure was at the forwardmost portion of the ejection; just like an old DeHaviland Comet and its windows. The flank of the breech started to zipper open, which is likely what let the case move back to expose enough unsupported brass to allow a case failure down the feed ramp. Glock 22s early on got a bad reputation due to a portion of the cartridge case being unsupported at that point. Mild ammunition wasn't an issue (the stuff in the 360 ft-lbs range), but loads that were just fine in the 4006 (500-600 ft-lbs) could cause case failure, usually on the unsupported portion. A design change later addressed this, partly from analysis of the remains of this pistol :) It's quite likely that the high pressure put the slide prematurely out of battery, which removed the support of the slide around the breech block, which allowed the breech to fail. The slide and barrel aren't supposed to be out of battery at 50,000+ psi...
According to the Glock techs, the initial failure was at the forwardmost portion of the ejection; just like an old DeHaviland Comet and its windows. The flank of the breech started to zipper open, which is likely what let the case move back to expose enough unsupported brass to allow a case failure down the feed ramp. Glock 22s early on got a bad reputation due to a portion of the cartridge case being unsupported at that point. Mild ammunition wasn't an issue (the stuff in the 360 ft-lbs range), but loads that were just fine in the 4006 (500-600 ft-lbs) could cause case failure, usually on the unsupported portion. A design change later addressed this, partly from analysis of the remains of this pistol :) It's quite likely that the high pressure put the slide prematurely out of battery, which removed the support of the slide around the breech block, which allowed the breech to fail. The slide and barrel aren't supposed to be out of battery at 50,000+ psi...
Yep but I remember do drills like that a couple times as part of close range/ weapons retention drills. The one thing I do remember was that the muzzle blast was not fun and you had to avoid pressing the pistol directly against your body to avoid either jamming the slide or in the case of a revolver feed yourself some of the escaping gas from the cylinder gap. As it is I scorched one of T-shirts slightly doing it once.
Probably made for a more interesting pattern than tie-dye. I just wouldn't pack that shirt if you're flying :) Well, unless you really are looking for a "TSA Handshake"...
Nothing wrong with the FBI Rock at close quarters; the silly part was when they were teaching it for engagements at 20', believe it or not.
Nothing wrong with the FBI Rock at close quarters; the silly part was when they were teaching it for engagements at 20', believe it or not.
Never could use a glock, every one of them I could only hold with 2 fingers. I could understand how someone much smaller would like them alot. Neat quickdraw pic on the top right, but took a sec to relise what she was going. Never was allowed to try quick drawing myself, really most of my handguns dont even have holsters to prevent gun wear.
I have to ask, are you a bear? Lot of people don't like Glocks because they're a bit far around. Heck, the whole point of the SF series is to open them up to a slightly wider range of users by allowing -2mm/0mm/+2mm on the backstrap.
I can only get my middle two fingers on the grip of my 27, but that doesn't bother me, and it's a small pistol, anyway. If you can't get all your fingers on a 21, you're huge, in which case you might look at a certain IMI product.
I can only get my middle two fingers on the grip of my 27, but that doesn't bother me, and it's a small pistol, anyway. If you can't get all your fingers on a 21, you're huge, in which case you might look at a certain IMI product.
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