For my "Art in the Humanities" summer class. I HATE ART CLASSES WITH A PASSION.
Small rant:
I do not like analyzing art. I think that we, as a culture, over-analyze art, literature and other such things. Who is to say that an artist did not just paint the picture for lulz? Not some god-fearing philosophical reason that changes art forever.
Small rant:
I do not like analyzing art. I think that we, as a culture, over-analyze art, literature and other such things. Who is to say that an artist did not just paint the picture for lulz? Not some god-fearing philosophical reason that changes art forever.
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I agree. Far too many things are analyzed by humanity, and by doing so, they change it. Adults always have to know that a butterfly is a monarch, or a tiger swallowtail. Whereas a child simply enjoys seeing it. They don't need to give it a name or analyze it. They just enjoy it being.
Yea, that's what my art teacher said about Humanist Italian art. They /said/ they were practicing Neo-Platonicism, but really they just wanted to look at naked ladies without getting in trouble with the Church. Oh, and naked boys too, a-la all the statues of David they kept making. @_@
That's essentially my thoughts as well. Just cause someone drew something doesn't mean that there's supposed to be some deep meaning, or philosophycal context, or deep seeded symbolism.
Maybe they just wanted to throw colors at a wall for the hell of it knowing some dumbfuck in a suit would pay out the ass to hang it in his house to feel more "Cultured"
Maybe they just wanted to throw colors at a wall for the hell of it knowing some dumbfuck in a suit would pay out the ass to hang it in his house to feel more "Cultured"
This is certainly tastefully done, complete in the antiqued appearance of the actual picture. You did an amazing job with this Tojo, of course, I've come to expect nothing less than pure epicness in everything that you draw/paint. Quite possibly the most noteworthy part about this picture, aside from the stunning recreation of Leonardo da Vinci's original work, is that you even got the eyes to follow you somewhat. I noticed, standing in front of, and to the left of the picture, the eyes follow, but to the right, she appears to be staring off else where. Even so though, that was still something that totally stood out to me that you were even able to capture that feeling. Excellent job.
You have to consider that most artist paints/draws to deliver message, which is often considered as personal or directed at certain subject. Artists are like writers communicating through imagery.
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Still, you're right that some artists could still paint/draw just for lulz x3
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Still, you're right that some artists could still paint/draw just for lulz x3
This is awesome...plus I agree with you on the part of over-analytic human society. People try to find an underlying meaning that most likely isn't there... I just look at piece and determine wether I like it or not then I spend no more time analyzing to see if there is some sort of religious/symbolic meaning in it.
My opinion entirely. Back in highschool, we had to dissect the meaning of poems. The poem I picked, I just *happened* to find a full out explanation of by the actual author. I removed the signature that it was his own words on his own words and let my teacher read it. She promptly told me it was interesting, but incorrect. At which point I promptly told her the author had written it himself. (CS Lewis if I remember right)
I love to write, and if/when I get anything published, I plan to have a pre-thingy that says blatantly that my work means something to me, and will mean something different to anyone who reads it. I'm glad if what I do incites a response, but I don't much care what it does or doesn't mean to you. It means what it means to me, and by god, if people ever try to analyze anything I do, I swear I will return and incite a zombie-ghost-pirate-ninja apocalypse.
I love to write, and if/when I get anything published, I plan to have a pre-thingy that says blatantly that my work means something to me, and will mean something different to anyone who reads it. I'm glad if what I do incites a response, but I don't much care what it does or doesn't mean to you. It means what it means to me, and by god, if people ever try to analyze anything I do, I swear I will return and incite a zombie-ghost-pirate-ninja apocalypse.
For some reason this picture makes me link
I love you for the rant :3
You just talk out of my soul 8D
I love you for the rant :3
You just talk out of my soul 8D
Well maybe...allow me to regale you with a short(-ish) anecdote:
I was once unlucky enough to go to an art exposition themed after the colonial era, the art however was rarely something you could recognize at a glance, far too many of them required you to look at them for hours, go away, and then, while several feet away, squinting a little, finally get what on earth the artist was trying to draw (Turns out what I thought was a generous smattering of multicolored watercolors, was an "artistic" representation of a colonial village)
All the while I, as well as everyone else it seems, developed a horrid headache due to a droning feedback noise coming from the locales sound system, thinking them to be malfunctioning but not wanting to make a scene we simply hoped someone would finally shut them off, which they did after an hour, inviting us to further reflect on the tune, which turns out to have been some sort of artistic expression in sound...
Now I don't think of myself as a close minded person, there's a lot of art out there I don't fancy or actively dislike and while ill be vocal about my own preference, I understand everyone is entitled to their own.
But I left that expo feeling nothing but disgust and a lingering headache, what good is art if its been diluted into such meta-nonsensical hoopla that it cant even be recognized as such?
Some analysis and a healthy dose of criticism of art is necessary, in my opinion, in order to avoid it becoming so diluted and nonsensical as the emperor's new clothes.
On a lighter note, nice pic!
I was once unlucky enough to go to an art exposition themed after the colonial era, the art however was rarely something you could recognize at a glance, far too many of them required you to look at them for hours, go away, and then, while several feet away, squinting a little, finally get what on earth the artist was trying to draw (Turns out what I thought was a generous smattering of multicolored watercolors, was an "artistic" representation of a colonial village)
All the while I, as well as everyone else it seems, developed a horrid headache due to a droning feedback noise coming from the locales sound system, thinking them to be malfunctioning but not wanting to make a scene we simply hoped someone would finally shut them off, which they did after an hour, inviting us to further reflect on the tune, which turns out to have been some sort of artistic expression in sound...
Now I don't think of myself as a close minded person, there's a lot of art out there I don't fancy or actively dislike and while ill be vocal about my own preference, I understand everyone is entitled to their own.
But I left that expo feeling nothing but disgust and a lingering headache, what good is art if its been diluted into such meta-nonsensical hoopla that it cant even be recognized as such?
Some analysis and a healthy dose of criticism of art is necessary, in my opinion, in order to avoid it becoming so diluted and nonsensical as the emperor's new clothes.
On a lighter note, nice pic!
Tojo, as to your comment:
"I do not like analyzing art. I think that we, as a culture, over-analyze art, literature and other such things. Who is to say that an artist did not just paint the picture for lulz? Not some god-fearing philosophical reason that changes art forever."
Actually, if the artist himself won't tell himself, we can't be sure if either there are hidden things or if there are not. Except for cubism, that's pretty obvious that it can be interpreted differently.
"I do not like analyzing art. I think that we, as a culture, over-analyze art, literature and other such things. Who is to say that an artist did not just paint the picture for lulz? Not some god-fearing philosophical reason that changes art forever."
Actually, if the artist himself won't tell himself, we can't be sure if either there are hidden things or if there are not. Except for cubism, that's pretty obvious that it can be interpreted differently.
In my opinion, art gets analyzed in completely the wrong way. Arts and Humanities professors are way to ignorant of science to apply their scholarly knowledge in ways that matter, so they end up spouting completely subjective nonsense and, honestly, this realization completely turned me off from art. Nothing grates at me more then people who think perception = reality.
This is all changing, though, and its pissing off the more traditional art professors. Darwinian principles of evolution, historical influences and psychology are the only logical tools for analysis. Everything else is bullshit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PktUzdnBqW
This is all changing, though, and its pissing off the more traditional art professors. Darwinian principles of evolution, historical influences and psychology are the only logical tools for analysis. Everything else is bullshit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PktUzdnBqW
I'm pretty sure Leonardo painted the Mona Lisa just to get with the lady in said portrait. He was a dude like that, hell to him art was a pastime he just did for shits and giggles when he always considered himself an engineer moreso.
So yeah, I agree with over-analyzing art, not that you can't do it, but just not to every picture. On that note, holy fuck is this a goddamn beautiful painting, I hope you got full marks here.
So yeah, I agree with over-analyzing art, not that you can't do it, but just not to every picture. On that note, holy fuck is this a goddamn beautiful painting, I hope you got full marks here.
While I agree to some degree, I would say that art is motivated by the unconscious, and you can't analyze art without having both a historical context AND an understanding of psychology. Otherwise, it's bullshit.
For example, the "Picasso" type of art (seriously distorted figures, anti-beautiful dancing, nonsense poetry, etc) came not long after the public school system was instituted; prior to this, parents put their kids in private schools, and were very concerned with picking the most effective ones.
Trusted sources would say that the public school system was put in place precisely because of the success of private schools; the rulers did not like having underclasses that could actually compete with them in the market.
An alternative theory of mine is that maybe society had advanced enough for people to be able to express their buried pain through art (truth is, the further back you go in time, the shittier childhoods were).
For example, the "Picasso" type of art (seriously distorted figures, anti-beautiful dancing, nonsense poetry, etc) came not long after the public school system was instituted; prior to this, parents put their kids in private schools, and were very concerned with picking the most effective ones.
Trusted sources would say that the public school system was put in place precisely because of the success of private schools; the rulers did not like having underclasses that could actually compete with them in the market.
An alternative theory of mine is that maybe society had advanced enough for people to be able to express their buried pain through art (truth is, the further back you go in time, the shittier childhoods were).
I fully agree with your mini-rant in the description here. I've always loved art, except for the nonsensically analyzing we have do to. Teacher trying to make us figure out the supposed "story" behind a drawing of a naked girl... maybe the artist just wanted to freakin' draw a naked girl! Geez!
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