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+Subject: Process weight (was:Re: [GENERAL] Re: Red Hat to support PostgreSQL)
+Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:14:09 -0400
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+On Wednesday 27 June 2001 18:58, Bruce Momjian wrote:
+> > I had almost given up on using Postgres for this system because under
+> > Solaris, it just couldn't cut it (MySQL could do the work with one CPU
+> > while Postgres took up even more CPU and required *both* CPUs to be
+> > enabled), but when we moved the system to a Linux box, things worked
+> > much better.
+
+> Ah, back to a PostgreSQL topic. :-)
+
+> My guess on this one is that Solaris is slower for PostgreSQL because
+> process switching is _much_ heavier on Solaris than other OS's. This is
+> because of the way they implemented processes in SVr4. They got quite
+> heavy, almost requiring kernel threads so you weren't switching
+> processes all the time.
+
+Now, the question of the week:
+Is supporting a thread model for an inefficient OS a desirable thing to do,
+when more efficient OS kernels are available such as FreeBSD 4.x and Linux
+2.4? My opinion is that our existing model, when used with a
+connection-pooling frontend, is rather efficient. (Yes, I use a
+connection-pooling frontend. Performance is rather nice, and I don't have to
+have a full backend spawned for every page hit.)
+
+In fact, on a Linux box threads show as processes. While I know that the
+kernel actually supports themin a slightly different manner than processes,
+they have more similarities than differences.
+
+However, even on OS's where threads are supported, the mechanism to support
+those threads must be an efficient one -- not all pthreads libraries are
+created equal. Many are frontends (expensive ones, at that) for plain old
+processes.
+
+Does anyone know of a resource that details the 'weight' of processes for our
+supported platforms? [reply off-list -- I'll be glad to summarize responses
+to HACKERS, ADMIN, or PORTS, as appropriate, if desired.]
+--
+Lamar Owen
+WGCR Internet Radio
+1 Peter 4:11
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