do people actually think the idf intentionally started wildfires in patagonia. i need to know. what the hell would they gain from that. people are saying this but the only actual thing ive seen is some random guy being accused of lighting a fire outdoors which some people are blaming for the wildfires? is climate change now also a plot by (((them))) to destroy the whi- i mean human race?
Short answer: no, they do not.
Longer answer: Suppose you know two people who say they believe in an urban legend. You confront them with evidence that the urban legend is not true. Each person has a different reaction.
Person A responds with relief and embarrassment. They'd told other people the urban legend as a warning, and now they realize they were spreading a fake story. They understand they'll have to apologize and make amends. They feel humbled by this understanding. But, again, the primary reaction is relief: they are glad that the horrible, scary thing represented by the urban legend is not true.
Person B responds with rage. How dare you show them your "evidence" instead of responding with fear and malleability, as they had expected and wanted? You must be in on the horrible, scary thing represented by the urban legend, too! That's the only reason why you'd try to dissuade them from it! But they're on to you and they won't fall for you nonsense!
So let's transpose the Patagonia urban legend onto this structure.
Person A is afraid that a foreign government may have set the fires in Patagonia because that is a scary thing to believe. They DO believe the story, but they don't WANT to believe it. They are persuadable that it's not true, and like a reasonable adult, they are glad to find out that it's not. One less monster under the bed, metaphorically speaking.
Person B wants it to be true, which means they know very well that it isn't. They want more monsters under the bed. They are only pretending to believe it to advance their actual goals, which are demonizing Israel and blaming Jews for literally everything that goes wrong in their world.
That's all it takes, IMO. Test the individual by confronting them with how incorrect they are (or see if others have done so). How do they react? Are they relieved or enraged?
Then, you will know whether it's worthwhile to engage. You can convince Person A. You cannot convince Person B, because they don't believe in the wildfires story anymore than you do.
You can't wake up someone who's pretending to sleep.










