What do you think Alastor's morals are? And how do you think it will go against whatever Vox is doing next season ?

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Apologies, this is going to be long. I will begin by stating my biases. First, I am an Alastor stan. He has been my hyperfixation since 2023 and has refused to be moved or replaced. While I can claim to have a deep understanding of Alastor, I can't claim the same for other characters. Secondly, I am a fan of villains. I would not like Alastor half as much if he were a good person, and I believe most Alastor fans, even if they are not normally into villains, are at the very least into him as their chosen "bad boy" of the show. Most fans of the Vees are of similar taste. The third thing I want to note is that there are no purely evil characters on the show. Vivzie has said that Roo is the only pure evil character that she has for the show.

According to Vivzie, Alastor is a chaotic neutral character. I have talked before about duality as a key part of Alastor's trait. He is a character meant to embody both good and evil. Alastor, however, wants to be known for evil. He loves being a malicious, manipulative creature and barely hides it (love this about him to the point that I am likely to get bored if Alastor is completely devoid of malice in a fanfic). While mostly self-serving, he doesn't mind doing things for those he cares about, as can be seen with Mimzy and Niffty. Or sometimes even for strangers, like with the sheep sinner in the comic.

Alastor delights in torture and murder, but he seems to have weird morals relating to it. This is partly a headcanon based on what we have seen on the show and the playbill, but Alastor requires a person to attack him first. Alastor is mostly reactive, reflecting the attitude that he receives. Reacting to politeness with politeness, and violence with violence. Sir Pentious has fought Alastor multiple times and has been met with the same level of violence that he presents to Alastor. However, related to the comic, which might no longer be canon, Alastor threaten the butcher who was looking for ways to attack him, but doesn't attack him till he attacks the sheep sinner. That indicates another potential aspect of his morality. The attack on the sheep demon, combined with what the Butcher had done previously, made him acceptable prey to Alastor.

Now for Vox. Vivzie has stated that Vox is evil, and all the Vees are evil. To be honest, the only "good" trait that I can think of for Vox and the Vees is that they genuinely care about each other in their own way. That's it. However, this is what has made some people think that they, except Valentino, are better people than Alastor.

Vivzie has been trying for a while now to get this across. I noticed it after the Valentine's Day merch dropped, and she posted this in response to people complaining about Valentino being part of the merch.

I think the reaction to the Valentine's Day merch made Vivzie realise that there were people who didn't get it, which could lead to a potential backlash when they are forced to see Vox and Velvette be evil in Season 2. This was therefore followed by her posting this a while after. While it highlights their good side, which is their relationship, she is once again trying to remind people that all the Vees, not just Valentino, are evil.

Considering the reaction when the Pride merch came out for the Vees, people obviously still didn't get it. This latest post from Vivziepop was the one that seemed to finally make people get it. You will notice that it has even made some people realise that maybe the end of Vox and Alastor's relationship wasn't a case of poor, innocent Vox being hurt by the evil Alastor.

As someone who has gotten sick of people using Alastor as a comparison to Valentino when Vox is right there or even just implying that Vox is a better person than Alastor, this was a delight. Do I think Vox is more evil than Alastor? No, because I don't believe in measuring evil when it comes to fictional villains. I believe in flavours, and Alastor's flavour is more to my taste than Vox's. I prefer the whole classy, sadistic manipulator who enjoys being and showcasing himself as evil. I also love trickster-type characters who love to smile. I have just always hated the assumption that Vox is a better person, particularly when it is based on the misconception that having friends makes you a better person than someone who is a loner.

Comparing their evil nature, I believe that the only "evil" thing that Alastor would do that the Vees would not do is cannibalism. Murder, torture, manipulation, and whatever evil that you can accuse Alastor of is not something that is beneath the Vees. On the other hand, the specific type of evil that the Vees act on that is not Alastor's type of evil is theft of consent. What I mean is that all the Vees, including Vox, have a tendency to bypass the consent of others. From Valentino's smoke to Velvette's love potion to Vox's mind control, these are people who do not believe that consent matters. What matters is what they want, and you don't get to tell them no. Alastor might be a top-class manipulator who is not above taking advantage of people's emotional state to get what he wants, but he is not bypassing consent. He announces constantly that he is evil and up to no good, so that when you get into a deal with him, you can't claim to have misunderstood who you are dealing with. He invites people to attack him first with the full knowledge of what happens to those who cross him, so that when he does torture you, he can claim that you asked for it. Now, some might say that what Alastor does is not proper "informed" consent, but I would say that is far more consensual than someone taking away your ability to choose.

People say that Alastor wants to rule hell because he said that he wants to be the one pulling the strings. The Vees also said that they want to rule hell. There is a difference between the two even in that scenario. You see, someone who pulls that string exists in the background. They do not directly wield power. They wield influence over those who directly run things. Alastor has no interest in directly running everything. The Vees don't just want to run things directly, based on Vox's past as a cult leader and his tendency to use mind control to avoid consent, I get the feeling that he would prefer if all of hell would become mindless drones that only do as he says.

In season 2, I am expecting the Vees to be making a power grab, using their influence on the media and Vox's mind control to turn hell or at least the Pride ring, against Charlie and Lucifer. Alastor will be weakened for most of Season 2 and not in a position to interfere in what they are doing. I expect us to get the complicated and sad background to why Alastor and Vox's relationship ended, which will show how misunderstandings and outside forces worked against their relationship. However, the present group that Vox is part of was never one that Alastor could have been a part of without getting rid of his limited moral compass, considering the whole consent thing. I'm not one of those who think the Vees will die at the end, but they will lose. I expect Vox's constant need to pivot to the next big thing to end up being what Alastor uses against him.

Thanks for the ask. I would have responded sooner, but I kept thinking of the best way to word it, and it kept getting longer.

Shout out to fans of the Vees, especially Valentino fans, who will get some vindication against the haters who keep wanting him removed from merch with the other Vees. Season 2 is going to be your season, particularly if you are a villain fan. You'll get to see them be their best evil selves.