They're all from different dimensions; and iirc, Mikaela's lore seems to indicate that Myers, Freddy, and the like are fictional in some worlds because their creators got visions of the worlds where they were real from the Fog and thought they were just dreams or ideas and wrote them down as stories.

Originally posted by asa0199:

They're all from different dimensions; and iirc, Mikaela's lore seems to indicate that Myers, Freddy, and the like are fictional in some worlds because their creators got visions of the worlds where they were real from the Fog and thought they were just dreams or ideas and wrote them down as stories.

Oh neat.
Makes me still want to think of fun lore ideas as to why Jason isnt in DBD yet.

Originally posted by Server Jester:

Originally posted by asa0199:

They're all from different dimensions; and iirc, Mikaela's lore seems to indicate that Myers, Freddy, and the like are fictional in some worlds because their creators got visions of the worlds where they were real from the Fog and thought they were just dreams or ideas and wrote them down as stories.

Oh neat.
Makes me still want to think of fun lore ideas as to why Jason isnt in DBD yet.

Yet.
Pretty sure he'd end up in DbD sooner or later.

Originally posted by Sebrium:

Originally posted by Server Jester:

Oh neat.
Makes me still want to think of fun lore ideas as to why Jason isnt in DBD yet.

Yet.
Pretty sure he'd end up in DbD sooner or later.

The real life reason he isn't is because there are legal problems securing the rights, mostly because of the game Friday the 13th, now delisted. Maybe it'll unlock the situation for DbD since, as I imagine, both the rights-holder and BHVR are probably eager to cooperate on that one, since it'll be printing money.
I'd also like to see Art the Clown from Terrifier be secured by BHVR, we already have one clown but then again Billy already existed when they secured Bubba so yeah both wield a chainsaw but they have a completely different gameplay, so I imagine it'd be easy to differenciate the Clown and Art (although his title would be hard to find... The Mime?)

Originally posted by Barbak:

Originally posted by Sebrium:

Yet.
Pretty sure he'd end up in DbD sooner or later.

The real life reason he isn't is because there are legal problems securing the rights, mostly because of the game Friday the 13th, now delisted. Maybe it'll unlock the situation for DbD since, as I imagine, both the rights-holder and BHVR are probably eager to cooperate on that one, since it'll be printing money.
I'd also like to see Art the Clown from Terrifier be secured by BHVR, we already have one clown but then again Billy already existed when they secured Bubba so yeah both wield a chainsaw but they have a completely different gameplay, so I imagine it'd be easy to differenciate the Clown and Art (although his title would be hard to find... The Mime?)

Yea I know the actual reason is copyright shenanigans

But my headcanon is Jason is too strong and he just attacks the Entity everytime it tries to take him away from Crystal Lake

Can we talk about how CREEPER from JEEPERS CREEPERS ISN'T IN DBD YET?!
Wish they can get the rights for that...

Originally posted by Server Jester:

Yea I know the actual reason is copyright shenanigans

But my headcanon is Jason is too strong and he just attacks the Entity everytime it tries to take him away from Crystal Lake

I didn't watch lots of movies from this franchise and I know it can get wacky with Jason who's undead and ends up in space and all, but I feel that there are wildly more powerful characters already in DbD. The Entity is already way more powerful than Freddy who doesn't even have a physical form, than the Cenobites who have almost godlike powers, and even manages to keep the Blight in check, the only character to yield the one substance able to actually harm the Entity.

Jason is probably strong by human standards and nigh invincible, but so is Myers with the curse of Samhain and all. And I feel that maybe the Entity would consider them both equally; not dangerous in the least, useful but probably partly troublesome because they often do what they want.

Originally posted by Barbak:

Originally posted by Server Jester:

Yea I know the actual reason is copyright shenanigans

But my headcanon is Jason is too strong and he just attacks the Entity everytime it tries to take him away from Crystal Lake

I didn't watch lots of movies from this franchise and I know it can get wacky with Jason who's undead and ends up in space and all, but I feel that there are wildly more powerful characters already in DbD. The Entity is already way more powerful than Freddy who doesn't even have a physical form, than the Cenobites who have almost godlike powers, and even manages to keep the Blight in check, the only character to yield the one substance able to actually harm the Entity.

Jason is probably strong by human standards and nigh invincible, but so is Myers with the curse of Samhain and all. And I feel that maybe the Entity would consider them both equally; not dangerous in the least, useful but probably partly troublesome because they often do what they want.

Technically, depending if you trust Pinheads Mori lines, he just steals survivors from the realm. So he's not trapped, but keeps getting teleported back because idiots won't stop touching his box or something.

My headcanon for Jason is that Pamela was actually a member of the Imperiatti and somehow either bargained with or sealed off the Entity to prevent it from taking her son. That way, if he ever does show up, I can just say whatever she did wore off. =p

Originally posted by ReaperOne1Two2:

Technically, depending if you trust Pinheads Mori lines, he just steals survivors from the realm. So he's not trapped, but keeps getting teleported back because idiots won't stop touching his box or something.

I love the "idiots won't top touching his box" part :'D
However, it is also said the lore that the Entity was able to create (and therefore fully understand) its own lament configuration, so maybe they're not even that free to teleport anymore.

I like to think we have remake Freddy because the Entity couldn't control the real thing. OG Freddy stole the souls of his victims so that probably would come in direct conflict with the Entity's plans.

In the original series, by the 6th movie, Freddy was powerful enough to alter reality while still in the dream world, turning Springwood into a trap of sorts even for people fully awake. He's even able to keep the town under a sort of spell, even going as far as to erase people from memory itself. This was only after a few hundred or so victims.

The more souls Freddy takes, the stronger he gets. The more fear he instills, the stronger he gets. I think with enough time and joyful effort on Freddy's part, he would become too much for the Entity to handle. And, does the Entity happen to sleep? Remake Freddy was just a slimebag that got imbued with power. OG Freddy is considered "The most evil, twisted human imaginable". And, if lore, fiction, what have you has taught us anything, it's that humans love to one-up anything in the evil department.

Originally posted by A Fallopian Facehugger Factory:

I like to think we have remake Freddy because the Entity couldn't control the real thing. OG Freddy stole the souls of his victims so that probably would come in direct conflict with the Entity's plans.

In the original series, by the 6th movie, Freddy was powerful enough to alter reality while still in the dream world, turning Springwood into a trap of sorts even for people fully awake. He's even able to keep the town under a sort of spell, even going as far as to erase people from memory itself. This was only after a few hundred or so victims.

The more souls Freddy takes, the stronger he gets. The more fear he instills, the stronger he gets. I think with enough time and joyful effort on Freddy's part, he would become too much for the Entity to handle. And, does the Entity happen to sleep? Remake Freddy was just a slimebag that got imbued with power. OG Freddy is considered "The most evil, twisted human imaginable". And, if lore, fiction, what have you has taught us anything, it's that humans love to one-up anything in the evil department.

I headcanon Freddy isn't remake Freddy at all; he's New Nightmare Freddy looking like remake Freddy because that's the last movie that was made and is therefore the freshest in his victims' minds. It's his one built-in weakness that he has to abide by the rules of whatever universe he's currently stuck in... including Dead by Daylight's. Now if I could just get the duster and organic glove as an alternate skin.

Originally posted by asa0199:

Originally posted by A Fallopian Facehugger Factory:

I like to think we have remake Freddy because the Entity couldn't control the real thing. OG Freddy stole the souls of his victims so that probably would come in direct conflict with the Entity's plans.

In the original series, by the 6th movie, Freddy was powerful enough to alter reality while still in the dream world, turning Springwood into a trap of sorts even for people fully awake. He's even able to keep the town under a sort of spell, even going as far as to erase people from memory itself. This was only after a few hundred or so victims.

The more souls Freddy takes, the stronger he gets. The more fear he instills, the stronger he gets. I think with enough time and joyful effort on Freddy's part, he would become too much for the Entity to handle. And, does the Entity happen to sleep? Remake Freddy was just a slimebag that got imbued with power. OG Freddy is considered "The most evil, twisted human imaginable". And, if lore, fiction, what have you has taught us anything, it's that humans love to one-up anything in the evil department.

I headcanon Freddy isn't remake Freddy at all; he's New Nightmare Freddy looking like remake Freddy because that's the last movie that was made and is therefore the freshest in his victims' minds. It's his one built-in weakness that he has to abide by the rules of whatever universe he's currently stuck in... including Dead by Daylight's. Now if I could just get the duster and organic glove as an alternate skin.

That checks out TBH. Must suck to be him, reduced to a temu-version of his former glory. A New Nightmare skin would be amazing, if I got my way, we would get a skin pack. Gimme Nightmare 1, 3, Super Freddy, and New Nightmare please. Hell, give us Nurse Freddy too.

Originally posted by A Fallopian Facehugger Factory:

I like to think we have remake Freddy because the Entity couldn't control the real thing. OG Freddy stole the souls of his victims so that probably would come in direct conflict with the Entity's plans.

In the original series, by the 6th movie, Freddy was powerful enough to alter reality while still in the dream world, turning Springwood into a trap of sorts even for people fully awake. He's even able to keep the town under a sort of spell, even going as far as to erase people from memory itself. This was only after a few hundred or so victims.

The more souls Freddy takes, the stronger he gets. The more fear he instills, the stronger he gets. I think with enough time and joyful effort on Freddy's part, he would become too much for the Entity to handle. And, does the Entity happen to sleep? Remake Freddy was just a slimebag that got imbued with power. OG Freddy is considered "The most evil, twisted human imaginable". And, if lore, fiction, what have you has taught us anything, it's that humans love to one-up anything in the evil department.

You just made me remember that I didn't watch all the movies! I stopped around Freddy 3 (maybe even 2 I think). And even then he was probably already kind of a problem for the Entity (and the question about the Entity sleeping/dreaming is legit a huge issue).

Originally posted by asa0199:

I headcanon Freddy isn't remake Freddy at all; he's New Nightmare Freddy looking like remake Freddy because that's the last movie that was made and is therefore the freshest in his victims' minds. It's his one built-in weakness that he has to abide by the rules of whatever universe he's currently stuck in... including Dead by Daylight's. Now if I could just get the duster and organic glove as an alternate skin.

Yeah but there's Quentin, so doesn't that make it pretty unlikely that Freddy isn't the remake Freddy?