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justanotherjaykist
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we can't exactly remember the wording of the post, but we saw a post about empathy that was talking about how everyone should always strive to be empathetic and try and think about how others feel and always be mindful of other people's emotions — and it pissed me off.

i have low empathy. i struggle with sympathy, as well. i also have alexithymia, which means that i can't process or recognise emotions very well, my own especially. we're a system, too, yet all of us struggle with those three things.

but that doesn't make me a bad person.

a lack of empathy or sympathy or emotion doesn't mean that someone is a heartless monster that actively wants to harm others all the time. it also doesn't mean that someone should exhaust themselves by pretending to feel those things just so others are more comfortable. and it's ableist to think otherwise.

i do not have to do anything to make my existence more palatable, and that does not make me a bad person.

the-consistent-anti

Empathy can actually make you a worse person, for example when people feel uncomfortable seeing homeless people because they're reacting to that person's suffering, so they call the police to get them out of the way so they aren't uncomfortable anymore.

Likewise, having low or no empathy can actually make you a better person, for example if you're a nurse/doctor and need to draw blood for health reasons, you're not going to flinch away when the patient does because you don't feel that involentary response to their pain.

I have hyperempathy, and that causes a lot of problems for me. For example, when I first got my Sachi baby when she was a kitten, she had an eye infection that spread to both eyes, so the vet told us to give her eyedrops for it. Guess what happened? I couldn't do it!!! I knew my baby was uncomfortable being held down, having her swollen eyes forced open, and having a foreign substance dropped in. Even though it was helping her, I needed someone else to give her the eyedrops because I empathized too much with her suffering. She's just an animal. We couldn't tell her why we were doing it.

(Fun fact; This is why I have emetophobia, because vomiting is very painful for me, so when I see other people vomit, I feel that as if it was me. It freaks me the fuck out, like some kind of emotional mirror-touch synesthesia.)

I find that when people say you need to have empathy to be a good person, what they're really talking about is compassion. Some people call this "choice empathy" aka, putting yourself into their shoes on purpose to try and understand them, but frankly, that isn't really necessary either. It's totally possible to care about other people and not want them to suffer while feeling 100% emotionally detatched from them. If you don't hurt people on purpose, you don't need to beat yourself up over it just because you can't literally feel what other people are feeling.

It is ableism to say otherwise, and I'm tired of people trying to justify it anyway. My hyperempathy doesn't make me some good person god. It doesn't go the other way too.

proship-shuujuu

thank you for recognising this as ableism.

we had some self-proclaimed "high-empathy" people in our inbox telling us that it wasn't actually ableism, that we're "weaponising" our low-empathy, and that we're clearly a danger to all the innocent, morally-pure beings with high-empathy /sarc

we've never thought about how high-empathy may hinder someone in every day life before, like with you and your cat. that's very interesting to know, thank you for sharing! we hope your cat is doing better now :)

the-consistent-anti

She is! Her eye infection came back one more time after she grew up, but we were able to confirm with a vet that it was just a one-off flareup and it probably wouldn't become a chronic issue. Both my cats turn 5 this year, and I'm happy to say that they're doing well.

Ugh, of course some high-empathy people would be annoying like that. I see it all the time. I believe my empathy is way higher even than most empaths (I am also autistic, so that's likely why), like I could hardly watch my sister get her ears pierced even though she felt no pain just because my empathy is so high. It's not a blessing. It doesn't make me a better person. In many ways, it literally just causes me pain that I wouldn't have if my empathy was lower. It really bothers me when people call themselves "Empaths" as if that's proof of how moral they are when it's literally just another trait that some people have and others don't.

If you're rude or mean to people for something they can't control, especially if it causes no harm, it's discrimination. It's really not that hard to understand. Having no empathy can be an issue if it causes you to become socially isolated because you can't connect with other people, but is that really the fault of the person? Or is that harm caused by other people choosing to exclude them for being different? Is it harm that could be mitigated or erased if people were just more educated and knew that emotions aren't a moral issue? Would it be a problem if people were taught to be more accepting of diversity?

I find it ironic that high-empathy people would say you're "weaponizing" your low empathy and are a danger to others when they're literally weaponizing their empathy as an excuse to be assholes to you. In my experience, empathy plays no role in whether or not people are kind. I've had people who were kind to me who had no empathy, and I've had people who were rude assholes to me who claimed to be empaths. In fact, the people who think their empathy makes them good are more likely to be assholes because they don't think they need to do anything to be good.

I know this is really unfair to you, but I promise there are lots of high-empathy people who agree with me. This issue is gaining traction, and more people are recognizing it for the ableism that it is.

Uhh, sorry I'm so verbose lmao I also have ADHD.

proship-shuujuu

"If you're rude or mean to people for something they can't control, especially if it causes no harm, it's discrimination."

i'm plastering this over my walls right now. this is such a simple thing that some people simply do not understand or refuse to understand, and it's endlessly infuriating.

i also know that not every person with high-empathy is a dick to those with low-empathy! moreso, i think that the people in my inbox were just dicks who happened to have high-empathy and saw an opportunity /nm

and don't apologise for being verbose! it's a good quality to have :)

— yuta.

justanotherjaykist

I would also like to say I used to know a guy who cheated on his bf. He then proceeded to not tell his bf because “I don’t want him to feel bad.”

Even though it went against his morals, his desire to not hurt people screwed him over in the end. Just own up to it, man.

the-consistent-anti

Yeah, empathy clearly didn’t help him out there.

empathy about ableism

I saw a post floating around about how radqueers are predators, and I didn’t want to reblog that post because it made me feel sick, but I thought it would be important to address the issue in my own post at least. CW for Radqueers and child grooming.

Yes, I understand that “transrace” can be a thing among people who feel disconnected from their culture because they look “too white.” Yes, I understand that age regression is a thing and some systems have little headmates and that COULD be why people identify as “transage.” (This is me really trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, as you can probably tell.)

But…what some of those radqueers were saying was absolutely appalling. Like…they were trying to argue that kids can “identify” as an older age so it’s appropriate to date adults even though they were literally children.

This is where I draw the line.

You can feel like a younger age than you really are, I can imagine multiple ways that could be possible, but you CAN’T identify as an age you’ve never been before, and it’s not an excuse to date a child just because you feel like a younger age than you really are.

This is literally a group of people who is encouraging grooming minors under the guise of acceptance.

I just…I heard that radqueers were bad, but I didn’t realize HOW bad. This is not fictional, this is about real children.

I won’t say DNI because I think DNIs are stupid and performative, at least the way most people use them, but…god. That’s fucking filth. Don’t excuse this behavior. There is no excuse for it. Children are children. Leave them the fuck alone.

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problematic-grave-girl

"nobody will like you if you talk about proshipping/problematic stuff IRL" I once had a very loud conversation about proshipping with an IRL friend in a very public place and nobody gave a shit.

However on the internet, people I once called my friends tried to doxx me, accused me of being a pedophile, etcetc

Antis are more chronically online than proshippers ever will be. Just saying.

the-consistent-anti

I still remember a conversation I had with a real life friend of mine who confided in me about how she likes to watch loli rape porn and imagine herself as the loli getting raped.

Real people don’t give a shit. More real people are freaks than these idiots even know.

anti harassment pro fiction proship
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proship-shuujuu

we can't exactly remember the wording of the post, but we saw a post about empathy that was talking about how everyone should always strive to be empathetic and try and think about how others feel and always be mindful of other people's emotions — and it pissed me off.

i have low empathy. i struggle with sympathy, as well. i also have alexithymia, which means that i can't process or recognise emotions very well, my own especially. we're a system, too, yet all of us struggle with those three things.

but that doesn't make me a bad person.

a lack of empathy or sympathy or emotion doesn't mean that someone is a heartless monster that actively wants to harm others all the time. it also doesn't mean that someone should exhaust themselves by pretending to feel those things just so others are more comfortable. and it's ableist to think otherwise.

i do not have to do anything to make my existence more palatable, and that does not make me a bad person.

the-consistent-anti

Empathy can actually make you a worse person, for example when people feel uncomfortable seeing homeless people because they're reacting to that person's suffering, so they call the police to get them out of the way so they aren't uncomfortable anymore.

Likewise, having low or no empathy can actually make you a better person, for example if you're a nurse/doctor and need to draw blood for health reasons, you're not going to flinch away when the patient does because you don't feel that involentary response to their pain.

I have hyperempathy, and that causes a lot of problems for me. For example, when I first got my Sachi baby when she was a kitten, she had an eye infection that spread to both eyes, so the vet told us to give her eyedrops for it. Guess what happened? I couldn't do it!!! I knew my baby was uncomfortable being held down, having her swollen eyes forced open, and having a foreign substance dropped in. Even though it was helping her, I needed someone else to give her the eyedrops because I empathized too much with her suffering. She's just an animal. We couldn't tell her why we were doing it.

(Fun fact; This is why I have emetophobia, because vomiting is very painful for me, so when I see other people vomit, I feel that as if it was me. It freaks me the fuck out, like some kind of emotional mirror-touch synesthesia.)

I find that when people say you need to have empathy to be a good person, what they're really talking about is compassion. Some people call this "choice empathy" aka, putting yourself into their shoes on purpose to try and understand them, but frankly, that isn't really necessary either. It's totally possible to care about other people and not want them to suffer while feeling 100% emotionally detatched from them. If you don't hurt people on purpose, you don't need to beat yourself up over it just because you can't literally feel what other people are feeling.

It is ableism to say otherwise, and I'm tired of people trying to justify it anyway. My hyperempathy doesn't make me some good person god. It doesn't go the other way too.

proship-shuujuu

thank you for recognising this as ableism.

we had some self-proclaimed "high-empathy" people in our inbox telling us that it wasn't actually ableism, that we're "weaponising" our low-empathy, and that we're clearly a danger to all the innocent, morally-pure beings with high-empathy /sarc

we've never thought about how high-empathy may hinder someone in every day life before, like with you and your cat. that's very interesting to know, thank you for sharing! we hope your cat is doing better now :)

the-consistent-anti

She is! Her eye infection came back one more time after she grew up, but we were able to confirm with a vet that it was just a one-off flareup and it probably wouldn't become a chronic issue. Both my cats turn 5 this year, and I'm happy to say that they're doing well.

Ugh, of course some high-empathy people would be annoying like that. I see it all the time. I believe my empathy is way higher even than most empaths (I am also autistic, so that's likely why), like I could hardly watch my sister get her ears pierced even though she felt no pain just because my empathy is so high. It's not a blessing. It doesn't make me a better person. In many ways, it literally just causes me pain that I wouldn't have if my empathy was lower. It really bothers me when people call themselves "Empaths" as if that's proof of how moral they are when it's literally just another trait that some people have and others don't.

If you're rude or mean to people for something they can't control, especially if it causes no harm, it's discrimination. It's really not that hard to understand. Having no empathy can be an issue if it causes you to become socially isolated because you can't connect with other people, but is that really the fault of the person? Or is that harm caused by other people choosing to exclude them for being different? Is it harm that could be mitigated or erased if people were just more educated and knew that emotions aren't a moral issue? Would it be a problem if people were taught to be more accepting of diversity?

I find it ironic that high-empathy people would say you're "weaponizing" your low empathy and are a danger to others when they're literally weaponizing their empathy as an excuse to be assholes to you. In my experience, empathy plays no role in whether or not people are kind. I've had people who were kind to me who had no empathy, and I've had people who were rude assholes to me who claimed to be empaths. In fact, the people who think their empathy makes them good are more likely to be assholes because they don't think they need to do anything to be good.

I know this is really unfair to you, but I promise there are lots of high-empathy people who agree with me. This issue is gaining traction, and more people are recognizing it for the ableism that it is.

Uhh, sorry I'm so verbose lmao I also have ADHD.

proship-shuujuu

"If you're rude or mean to people for something they can't control, especially if it causes no harm, it's discrimination."

i'm plastering this over my walls right now. this is such a simple thing that some people simply do not understand or refuse to understand, and it's endlessly infuriating.

i also know that not every person with high-empathy is a dick to those with low-empathy! moreso, i think that the people in my inbox were just dicks who happened to have high-empathy and saw an opportunity /nm

and don't apologise for being verbose! it's a good quality to have :)

— yuta.

thanks! important empathy
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Anonymous asked:

consang is. consensual incest, no? so like. people are. against two people consensually having sex?? as long as they treat it like normal sex [proper protection, consent, boundaries. all things that should be the norm], who. cares??

i'm understanding this correctly, right?

proship-shuujuu answered:

you are, anon.

the things that people claim are problems with consang relationships are abuse (can happen in any relationship, would be the fault of the abuse, not the incest), it being non-consensual (then it wouldn’t be a consang relationship), and any birth defects that children may have.

i’m not going to say that it’s eugenics, because it’s not, but it’s certainly getting there.

people will shame those in a consang relationship if they want to have children, since children from closely-related parents are more susceptible to birth defects, however that’s the case for a lot of hereditary disorders/diseases. if people deny those in consang relationships to have children, surely they must deny those with heredity disorders/diseases to have children — which then becomes something far too close to eugenics.

do i think that people should have a child knowing that it could have birth defects and a lower quality of life? trick question, it doesn’t matter what i think, because i’m not having that child. it’s none of my business what those people do, especially if they are prepared to take care of that child and are aware of the risks.

thank you for the ask, anon!

the-consistent-anti

You should trust that if any two people are carriers for a harmful gene, whether they’re related or not, that those people can make their own informed choices. It’s like how it’s not my business if someone gets an abortion even if it’s late-term, because whether someone gets an abortion or not is between them and their doctor.

I don’t want the govornment to be in charge of who is allowed access to healthcare.

Incestuous abuse, including abuse between very young siblings, parent/child incest, emotional incest, etc. is wrong, but those are wrong because they’re abuse, not because they’re incest.

And inbreeding is only a bad thing if it’s done over and over again over multiple generations. If you think nobody should inbreed even a single time, then you should also logically be against people who can get pregnant having a child over 30, because that also increases the risk of birth defects by about the same amount.

When people think about the harm of incest, they usually think of Charles Habsburg or King Tut, whose family trees look more like family chains, or they think of a big brother raping his baby sister (or a father raping his baby daughter) just because he wants power and knows how to get it, which would obviously be wrong even if they weren’t related.

Cousin incest is legal in a lot of places, and it’s probably because people understand that. Is it gross? Sure, but I also have worse problems in my life than relatives marrying each other as consenting adults. It’s not something that concerns me.

consang cw incest
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proship-shuujuu

we can't exactly remember the wording of the post, but we saw a post about empathy that was talking about how everyone should always strive to be empathetic and try and think about how others feel and always be mindful of other people's emotions — and it pissed me off.

i have low empathy. i struggle with sympathy, as well. i also have alexithymia, which means that i can't process or recognise emotions very well, my own especially. we're a system, too, yet all of us struggle with those three things.

but that doesn't make me a bad person.

a lack of empathy or sympathy or emotion doesn't mean that someone is a heartless monster that actively wants to harm others all the time. it also doesn't mean that someone should exhaust themselves by pretending to feel those things just so others are more comfortable. and it's ableist to think otherwise.

i do not have to do anything to make my existence more palatable, and that does not make me a bad person.

the-consistent-anti

Empathy can actually make you a worse person, for example when people feel uncomfortable seeing homeless people because they're reacting to that person's suffering, so they call the police to get them out of the way so they aren't uncomfortable anymore.

Likewise, having low or no empathy can actually make you a better person, for example if you're a nurse/doctor and need to draw blood for health reasons, you're not going to flinch away when the patient does because you don't feel that involentary response to their pain.

I have hyperempathy, and that causes a lot of problems for me. For example, when I first got my Sachi baby when she was a kitten, she had an eye infection that spread to both eyes, so the vet told us to give her eyedrops for it. Guess what happened? I couldn't do it!!! I knew my baby was uncomfortable being held down, having her swollen eyes forced open, and having a foreign substance dropped in. Even though it was helping her, I needed someone else to give her the eyedrops because I empathized too much with her suffering. She's just an animal. We couldn't tell her why we were doing it.

(Fun fact; This is why I have emetophobia, because vomiting is very painful for me, so when I see other people vomit, I feel that as if it was me. It freaks me the fuck out, like some kind of emotional mirror-touch synesthesia.)

I find that when people say you need to have empathy to be a good person, what they're really talking about is compassion. Some people call this "choice empathy" aka, putting yourself into their shoes on purpose to try and understand them, but frankly, that isn't really necessary either. It's totally possible to care about other people and not want them to suffer while feeling 100% emotionally detatched from them. If you don't hurt people on purpose, you don't need to beat yourself up over it just because you can't literally feel what other people are feeling.

It is ableism to say otherwise, and I'm tired of people trying to justify it anyway. My hyperempathy doesn't make me some good person god. It doesn't go the other way too.

proship-shuujuu

thank you for recognising this as ableism.

we had some self-proclaimed "high-empathy" people in our inbox telling us that it wasn't actually ableism, that we're "weaponising" our low-empathy, and that we're clearly a danger to all the innocent, morally-pure beings with high-empathy /sarc

we've never thought about how high-empathy may hinder someone in every day life before, like with you and your cat. that's very interesting to know, thank you for sharing! we hope your cat is doing better now :)

the-consistent-anti

She is! Her eye infection came back one more time after she grew up, but we were able to confirm with a vet that it was just a one-off flareup and it probably wouldn’t become a chronic issue. Both my cats turn 5 this year, and I’m happy to say that they’re doing well.

Ugh, of course some high-empathy people would be annoying like that. I see it all the time. I believe my empathy is way higher even than most empaths (I am also autistic, so that’s likely why), like I could hardly watch my sister get her ears pierced even though she felt no pain just because my empathy is so high. It’s not a blessing. It doesn’t make me a better person. In many ways, it literally just causes me pain that I wouldn’t have if my empathy was lower. It really bothers me when people call themselves “Empaths” as if that’s proof of how moral they are when it’s literally just another trait that some people have and others don’t.

If you’re rude or mean to people for something they can’t control, especially if it causes no harm, it’s discrimination. It’s really not that hard to understand. Having no empathy can be an issue if it causes you to become socially isolated because you can’t connect with other people, but is that really the fault of the person? Or is that harm caused by other people choosing to exclude them for being different? Is it harm that could be mitigated or erased if people were just more educated and knew that emotions aren’t a moral issue? Would it be a problem if people were taught to be more accepting of diversity?

I find it ironic that high-empathy people would say you’re “weaponizing” your low empathy and are a danger to others when they’re literally weaponizing their empathy as an excuse to be assholes to you. In my experience, empathy plays no role in whether or not people are kind. I’ve had people who were kind to me who had no empathy, and I’ve had people who were rude assholes to me who claimed to be empaths. In fact, the people who think their empathy makes them good are more likely to be assholes because they don’t think they need to do anything to be good.

I know this is really unfair to you, but I promise there are lots of high-empathy people who agree with me. This issue is gaining traction, and more people are recognizing it for the ableism that it is.

Uhh, sorry I’m so verbose lmao I also have ADHD.

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sticksandstans

the rise of conservatism and gen z puritanism while still simultaneously trying to be hip and woke is so annoying because you have these people saying "match my freak" and then they get mad at ageplay and petplay and cnc and somno and anything raunchier than a pair of fuzzy handcuffs. you're not a "freak" if you think having a fetish is synonymous with being evil

pro kink purity culture
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omgkawaiipuppy

Mfs be MISERABLE out there😭✌️

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the-consistent-anti

Skill issue; My F/Os age with me. That’s literally how the concept of time works.

(Disclaimer: This is not a jab at people who have underage F/Os, this is just how I approach the issue as someone who is personally squicked by most underage ships.)

all of us are aged up minors and the concept of time is problematic lol lmao even pro fiction proship
proship-shuujuu

Anonymous asked:

minor antis have every right to be wary of and criticize adult proshippers especially those who like to write sexual content of underage characters.

proshippers-against-censorship answered:

They shouldn’t be interacting with adults writing adult content, it’s 18+ for a reason. They especially shouldn’t be harassing people, which is what criticize seems to equal for minors nowadays. Block and move the fuck on.

mitskunicheesecake

Yeah no, if you're writing about minor characters in sexual settings THEN THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Get your mind fixed and please refrain from writing disgusting shits. It isn't that fucking hard

proshippers-against-censorship

Why the fuck do you want minors to read porn so badly? Why the fuck do you want minors to engage in NSFW conversations with adults they don't know so badly? Why are you advocating for putting real people in potentially unsafe spaces? Kids do not belong in adult environments, end of story. You wouldn't let a kid into a strip club.

proship-shuujuu

isn't this the anti grooming tactic?

they purposefully show minors content that is not appropriate for them/content that could disturb them so that they can demonise the people making said content. then they get to be the "heroes" who harass the "degenerates", despite the fact that they're willing to show adult content to minors just so that they can pull them into their puritanical cult.

antis are a cult