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Something epic this way comes. Posting the entire image later. . . but for now, enjoy the snippet.
I'm a bit obsessed with white lions. Juuuuust a bit.
I'm a bit obsessed with white lions. Juuuuust a bit.
Category Artwork (Digital) / General Furry Art
Species Lion
Size 667 x 683px
File Size 633.4 kB
Once again, marvelous detail and texture, shame about the structure.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandwor.....03_420x284.jpg
http://images.picturesdepot.com/pho...../lion-4596.jpg
http://lionspictures.net/lion-carrying-impala.jpg
http://skullspictures.net/Lion-Skull.jpg
Notice anything?
No forehead/nose stop. Dogs have that, not lions, the only 'break' in a lion's face is caused by the eye ridge. Angle of the nose is off as well, lions have a convex skull shape and on areas where the skin is thin like the nose, this will show. You've give poor mr lion here an almost straight nose bridge, oh and a dog nose right at the end.
http://thetbjoshuafanclub.files.wor.....stery-lion.jpg The nostrils of a lion slant down the face, yours go up like a dog, their noses are also smaller in terms of proportion than you've drawn here. The ears should be shorter and lower on the head for a lion as well, you remembered to round them but they're far too long and higher than they should be, the net result is that he's got a kind of canine-lion hybrid face.
You can pass a lot of things off to fantasy however the torso armour issues and arm issues are having an impact on the believability of the work.
The armour is too tight for him, his arms would not actually fit through the arm holes and even if they did, he would be unable to move properly. The shoulder pads are way too small and too low for believable armour. In fact he looks generally constricted by that armour.
Also his upper arms are tiny in width and slightly too short, even without the huge forearms that are way too big for them, they're too small for his figure in general.
Lighting in general in the snippet is okay, texture looks to be developing well, nice detail and imaginative work, shame about the base issues that detract from the work you've put into it.
well i don't, all i see is amazing art, i know its a lion, and not just beacuse she said it was, and while this may be helpful it doesnt change the fact that, at least to me it sounds like the poster is saying its not as good as it could be or isn't grand just beacuse of those flaws, calling it a shame, like ruikis hasn't already put enough amazing amounts of time and effort into this peice. perhaps i am too sensative, but it just feels a bit crass to critique in such a way, i know the poster meant well and i hope ruikis isnt as bothered by it as i may have been and can use it to make her art even more incredible, i just don't like critique that sounds rude, and to me, that was on the rude side
How is it rude? Telling someone in great detail the flaws of the picture. I'm sorry but if you cover up the mane on the lion, it really does look like a canine. I've tried it. He is giving proof, in fact, that this does NOT look like a pure-bred lion. It seems to me most furries just look at a picture and ooze over it if it's from a popular artist, despite its flaws. No one will critique, and if they do, it's usually in an awful and non-helpful form. At least he's trying to help her improve.
Being an artist in any form is about constantly improving, so critiquing is actually helpful rather than "rude". I personally do not see in any form how his comment was rude at all, it's pretty crazy that you would even think it. Just because a lot of time may have been put into this drawing doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be told what's wrong with it.
Being an artist in any form is about constantly improving, so critiquing is actually helpful rather than "rude". I personally do not see in any form how his comment was rude at all, it's pretty crazy that you would even think it. Just because a lot of time may have been put into this drawing doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to be told what's wrong with it.
it is good that he is trying to help, and i agree it is much better than other things i have heard being said, it just sounds negative and pushy to me, and perhaps that is why so few people critique, unless it is those truly rude and pointless comments you mentioned earlier.
overall, looking back over his comment it really is pretty structured and informative. i just wish he wouldn't talk about these things like they destroy the piece. to me that is what is disrespectful i suppose.
overall, looking back over his comment it really is pretty structured and informative. i just wish he wouldn't talk about these things like they destroy the piece. to me that is what is disrespectful i suppose.
Maybe you'd understand if you knew this kind of issue is a chronic issue with Rukis, nearly everything they do ends up looking canine-ish regardless of species (even her humans have long face syndrome).
Their work would be amazing if they could just break some of their bad habits when it comes to structure.
It is a shame when an artist spends hours putting detail on a deeply flawed base but not five minutes to fix the base first.
Too much critique, too little appreciation methinks. Sure, the image has its flaws, sure they may be an eyesore for some people, but it's also true that regardless of any little flaws, Rukis is obviously putting a lot of effort and dedication in this work. As in all her works. And I believe she's entitled to at least a bit of appreciation for her efforts. And, forgive me for being incapable of sensing it, but I didn't get the impression of much appreciation in your post. Just a lot of intensive flaw-fishing, albeit politely presented.
She's got loads of other comments which are nothing but praise, furthermore, critique itself is a -compliment- since any critiquer is spending the time to think about it and write about it, rather than just mindlessly spewing "oh I love it", it takes respect to speak to an artist as a peer and to respect their mind enough to deliver an intelligent and carefully thought out comments.
Effort? Plenty of people put loads of effort into their works, but at the end of the day their result is what is seen not how many all nighters they pulled. In life you don't get a gold star for effort, you get one for the results.
Hehe, I was going to mention the part about the armour.
Rukis, you did a really great job! From one artist to another, please don't feel discouraged by the constructive criticisism. These things help us improve and refine our skill and ability in our art, whatever that art may be. Keep it up!
Rukis, you did a really great job! From one artist to another, please don't feel discouraged by the constructive criticisism. These things help us improve and refine our skill and ability in our art, whatever that art may be. Keep it up!
Of course, but even if she says otherwise, she will care. Unless an artist specifically asks for critique they usually don't like having it on a submission, especially when it's been commissioned (as this is for a con, I would assume it has been). And as for the "why didn't she hide the comment then" argument, I have no come back other than hidden comments look bad as there shouldn't really be anything to hide. :3
I'm sure you understand what I mean. It was still a good critique, and I agree with you, canine characteristics are more prominent than they should be!
I'm sure you understand what I mean. It was still a good critique, and I agree with you, canine characteristics are more prominent than they should be!
If she really cared, she'd actually do something about it instead of continuing to spend scads of time on painting every hair but not the five minutes needed to fix obvious things, like the nose. She wouldn't get critiqued if she put more effort into the base.
I've held my tongue reasonably well previously, I didn't even shred the one that was ten times worse which was done for a previous con at which she was GoH. For a con at which one is GoH, they should be on their A game, it's embarrassing when the GoH doesn't care enough to produce a decent work to showcase the convention and that one had so many errors that I actually gave up on counting them once I reached the higher double digits.
Many artists I know welcome critique and tips, because they care about being an artist, the ones who do give a shit are or will be the best artists. In fact folks who don't like it are the unusual ones, there's a big difference between caring about art and caring simply because someone pointed out that the emperor has no clothes.
White lion and magus in one and the same character. Guess my mind is twisted too much by http://war.onlinewelten.com/uploads.....us/MagusT4.jpg and http://medias.jeuxonline.info/uploa.....hite_Lion2.jpg . You Warhammer fans out there will get my drift ;)
Man... i am totally a fan of MTG's Leonin Characters, and, as i already said to some similar themed works of Alector, you two really have the potential for those drawings, making me shiver and wishing, that someday, there might be some trading card game featuring that kind of art, as it would combine two of the things i really like :)
That one is Already awesome... waiting completely fancy for the rest ...
That one is Already awesome... waiting completely fancy for the rest ...
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