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TOPIC | Night of the Nocturne
[quote name="ShinopaThyme" date="2015-01-04 08:44:08"]@Skyure While you did make some interesting points, still have a lot to say. Firstly, **Free stuff is NOT guaranteed** No where did the administration say you're bound to get an egg or a scroll. It's an event with a percentage chance. Also, I am well aware what their prices are in the sales because I purchased one myself. The site was only.. *sigh* 'buggy' because of the amount of people storming the coliseum. That's not entirely the administration's fault. However, getting a larger server is something they should consider. It wasn't supposed to be fair for everyone. That's not the point of the event.[/quote] While I understand your points, calling us people who actually complain "arses" isn't the way to go. Understand that we have valid points. (If it was just people complaining that they didn't get five million eggs out of three chests, I'd understand you, but alas, I see so many without ANYTHING out of the chests they have) The site was buggy because of known reasons. Whenever there was a heavy load of users on the page, the page lagged. The coli lagged. Staff was fully informated about that. And yet they did not think that the load of many more users than the regular 1.5k/2k would happen (seeing as registrations opened just a week before)? That's highly unlikely. They knew that the site would break. At least they would have suspected it. Then the insane time you had to spend on grinding. Geez. There is a reason why I don't do the festivals anymore.... Also, the "Nothing free was guaranteed" ... then don't say we should stop complain because we get stuff for free. We work for it. We're supposed to get something out of it. Not just the experience. (Btw, complainers complaining about other people complaining are my favorites.)
ShinopaThyme wrote on 2015-01-04 08:44:08:
@Skyure While you did make some interesting points, still have a lot to say. Firstly, **Free stuff is NOT guaranteed** No where did the administration say you're bound to get an egg or a scroll. It's an event with a percentage chance. Also, I am well aware what their prices are in the sales because I purchased one myself.
The site was only.. *sigh* 'buggy' because of the amount of people storming the coliseum. That's not entirely the administration's fault. However, getting a larger server is something they should consider.
It wasn't supposed to be fair for everyone. That's not the point of the event.

While I understand your points, calling us people who actually complain "arses" isn't the way to go.
Understand that we have valid points.
(If it was just people complaining that they didn't get five million eggs out of three chests, I'd understand you, but alas, I see so many without ANYTHING out of the chests they have)
The site was buggy because of known reasons. Whenever there was a heavy load of users on the page, the page lagged. The coli lagged. Staff was fully informated about that. And yet they did not think that the load of many more users than the regular 1.5k/2k would happen (seeing as registrations opened just a week before)?
That's highly unlikely. They knew that the site would break. At least they would have suspected it.
Then the insane time you had to spend on grinding. Geez. There is a reason why I don't do the festivals anymore....

Also, the "Nothing free was guaranteed" ... then don't say we should stop complain because we get stuff for free.
We work for it. We're supposed to get something out of it. Not just the experience.

(Btw, complainers complaining about other people complaining are my favorites.)
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@Lilian
I will trade you one for a lavaborne hoax :)
@Lilian
I will trade you one for a lavaborne hoax :)
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@Skyure Never did I call complainers arses, however....
I should rephrase one thing "Getting an EGG or a SCROLL is not guaranteed. But getting free things are. So yes, complaining about getting free things is just... wrong.
And expressing my annoyance and elation that the event is over versus complaining are totally different things.
@Skyure Never did I call complainers arses, however....
I should rephrase one thing "Getting an EGG or a SCROLL is not guaranteed. But getting free things are. So yes, complaining about getting free things is just... wrong.
And expressing my annoyance and elation that the event is over versus complaining are totally different things.
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@JiokuyK
Pm'ing you right now ^^.

And I absolutely agree with @Skyure and @Karja, specially with the points regarding the repeatitive grinding, for I am one of those who find that something just too boring.

Those who are complaining aren't doing so just to cause drama, they are doing it for very understandable reasons that have been pointed out uncountable times already in this thread. Just because some people enjoyed the event, this doesn't erase the fact it was still stressful to good part of the userbase and they have every right to voice their frustration. I, like most, just hope the staff doesn't ignore all the critiques and complaints and instead try learning from them.
@JiokuyK
Pm'ing you right now ^^.

And I absolutely agree with @Skyure and @Karja, specially with the points regarding the repeatitive grinding, for I am one of those who find that something just too boring.

Those who are complaining aren't doing so just to cause drama, they are doing it for very understandable reasons that have been pointed out uncountable times already in this thread. Just because some people enjoyed the event, this doesn't erase the fact it was still stressful to good part of the userbase and they have every right to voice their frustration. I, like most, just hope the staff doesn't ignore all the critiques and complaints and instead try learning from them.
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As this was my first event with the site, my biggest complaint is the single items in the chests. The regular chests that you get such as with leveling a familiar, you get a couple of things, treasure, and food items especially there's a chance to get more than just one of. Really, it would have been great getting 2, 3, or even four chameleons or bugs or what have you. Maybe that and a bird skull or something. You know, to make it feel worth the added effort of participating, whether someone gets that rare egg, scroll, or what have you.

I have to say, the RNG gods were nice to me in this, but I know not everyone got even anything worth the effort out of it. It was pretty heart breaking to open a bunch of chests only to get a small handful of foodstuffs for their efforts. Perhaps next time just more things, food, junk, whatever, could be added to the chests so that it doesn't feel like such a huge waste of time to open so many and get next to nothing from it.
As this was my first event with the site, my biggest complaint is the single items in the chests. The regular chests that you get such as with leveling a familiar, you get a couple of things, treasure, and food items especially there's a chance to get more than just one of. Really, it would have been great getting 2, 3, or even four chameleons or bugs or what have you. Maybe that and a bird skull or something. You know, to make it feel worth the added effort of participating, whether someone gets that rare egg, scroll, or what have you.

I have to say, the RNG gods were nice to me in this, but I know not everyone got even anything worth the effort out of it. It was pretty heart breaking to open a bunch of chests only to get a small handful of foodstuffs for their efforts. Perhaps next time just more things, food, junk, whatever, could be added to the chests so that it doesn't feel like such a huge waste of time to open so many and get next to nothing from it.
A LOT of games have events like this. The coli is part of this game so there are going to be events that involve it. I don't fight in the coli a lot ether but you know what? I grinded my butt off anyway and now I have two lvl 25 dragons and a lvl 23 about to be 24 dragon.

And yeah I have opened over 2000 chests and never got the scroll I have been wanting but I'm ok with that, I tryed but luck was not on my side. They are suppose to be rare, that means they did not want everyone to get one from this event.
But just because you did not get one from this event does not mean you never will. The dragons will be common soon enough and there is still a chance to get eggs or first gen hatchlings or even scrolls if thats what you want, just look though the raffle section in the forum, things pop up there all the time.

And the argument ''oh I have work, don't have time to grind they should make the drops easier to get'' just stop with that -_- This is how ALLLLLLLLLL games are, its not supposed to be easy so that you can grab everything up in a little amount of time. You are supposed to work really hard for it and spend time on here. The whole point of a rare drop is that its SUPPOSE to be rare!
A LOT of games have events like this. The coli is part of this game so there are going to be events that involve it. I don't fight in the coli a lot ether but you know what? I grinded my butt off anyway and now I have two lvl 25 dragons and a lvl 23 about to be 24 dragon.

And yeah I have opened over 2000 chests and never got the scroll I have been wanting but I'm ok with that, I tryed but luck was not on my side. They are suppose to be rare, that means they did not want everyone to get one from this event.
But just because you did not get one from this event does not mean you never will. The dragons will be common soon enough and there is still a chance to get eggs or first gen hatchlings or even scrolls if thats what you want, just look though the raffle section in the forum, things pop up there all the time.

And the argument ''oh I have work, don't have time to grind they should make the drops easier to get'' just stop with that -_- This is how ALLLLLLLLLL games are, its not supposed to be easy so that you can grab everything up in a little amount of time. You are supposed to work really hard for it and spend time on here. The whole point of a rare drop is that its SUPPOSE to be rare!
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What factors go into RNG?

Cause I find it a little messed up if some players are able to get multiple scrolls or eggs or multiples of both from these chests, while others get nothing but food and trickets.

Players work hard to grind the coli, and even tho the scrolls are very rare and eggs are rare, there are players who manage to have RNG on their side.

I've opened up 2500+ chests, hoping to get at least ONE scroll, and have not, i had to swap one of my WC scrolls for a Noc scroll.

On the other hand, the RNG managed to give me 19 Noc eggs so far, and many many familiars.

Is there a calculation that is done to determine anything, as I'm quite confused as how RNG actually works o.O
What factors go into RNG?

Cause I find it a little messed up if some players are able to get multiple scrolls or eggs or multiples of both from these chests, while others get nothing but food and trickets.

Players work hard to grind the coli, and even tho the scrolls are very rare and eggs are rare, there are players who manage to have RNG on their side.

I've opened up 2500+ chests, hoping to get at least ONE scroll, and have not, i had to swap one of my WC scrolls for a Noc scroll.

On the other hand, the RNG managed to give me 19 Noc eggs so far, and many many familiars.

Is there a calculation that is done to determine anything, as I'm quite confused as how RNG actually works o.O
[quote name="ShinopaThyme" date="2015-01-04 06:59:58"]The event is over and I can breathe a huge sigh of relief!! over 3000 chests, and after the conclusion of the event I gained: all familiars, one scroll, and 14 nocturnes (Not all received by grinding or gathering chests) I can say I'm rather happy with the event, and I'm not just saying that because I was lucky either. Now that the event is over, the dragons in the sales will become cheaper and easier to snag. Do have to wait until the end of the month to breed them again, but no worries there. Patience is a virtue. I made quite a healthy sum from selling all that powder and other things that I acquired during my battles getting chests, that wasn't pointless. I also sold off some dragons too for next to nothing to help others out. I can also say that I'm glad the annoying-arse complaining is coming to an end as well. Good Lord! Be grateful for what you got in the event, whether it was not much or the whole schebang. It was all free, after all. Nor were you forced to participate.[/quote] I'm very happy you had a lot of luck in this event. But please try to understand that some people *are* upset/frustrated/angry/whatever and they'll complain because what is left for them? Sit quietly with fake smiles on? Do you do that if you're upset? I bet no. I really hope you'll remain like this "oh I'm so happy this complaining is over" in another even where you won't have all those luck. Please don't complain, sit with smile and post the same comment like this one. [sub]Just to clarify: I got quite a lot of things during this event, but I can still understand all those angry ones, that I wish luck on the last day of it!
ShinopaThyme wrote on 2015-01-04 06:59:58:
The event is over and I can breathe a huge sigh of relief!!

over 3000 chests, and after the conclusion of the event I gained: all familiars, one scroll, and 14 nocturnes (Not all received by grinding or gathering chests)

I can say I'm rather happy with the event, and I'm not just saying that because I was lucky either. Now that the event is over, the dragons in the sales will become cheaper and easier to snag. Do have to wait until the end of the month to breed them again, but no worries there. Patience is a virtue. I made quite a healthy sum from selling all that powder and other things that I acquired during my battles getting chests, that wasn't pointless. I also sold off some dragons too for next to nothing to help others out.

I can also say that I'm glad the annoying-arse complaining is coming to an end as well. Good Lord!
Be grateful for what you got in the event, whether it was not much or the whole schebang. It was all free, after all. Nor were you forced to participate.

I'm very happy you had a lot of luck in this event.
But please try to understand that some people *are* upset/frustrated/angry/whatever and they'll complain because what is left for them?
Sit quietly with fake smiles on? Do you do that if you're upset? I bet no.

I really hope you'll remain like this "oh I'm so happy this complaining is over" in another even where you won't have all those luck.
Please don't complain, sit with smile and post the same comment like this one.

Just to clarify: I got quite a lot of things during this event, but I can still understand all those angry ones, that I wish luck on the last day of it!
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@topiratti

Someone made a calculation outside of the FR that to get 99% of getting scroll you should open nearly 8000 chests (I don't remember the exactly number). But it still don't guarantee you a scroll as RNG might be "lol no".

In theory it's equality for all, but in practice it turned out to be luck based.
@topiratti

Someone made a calculation outside of the FR that to get 99% of getting scroll you should open nearly 8000 chests (I don't remember the exactly number). But it still don't guarantee you a scroll as RNG might be "lol no".

In theory it's equality for all, but in practice it turned out to be luck based.
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well my luck doesn't exist when it comes to dragons because i still have nothing. it ain't fair that the prices are THAT jacked up i mean ya, there new you get lots for them but come on is remotely reasonable that bad an idea. they will go faster
well my luck doesn't exist when it comes to dragons because i still have nothing. it ain't fair that the prices are THAT jacked up i mean ya, there new you get lots for them but come on is remotely reasonable that bad an idea. they will go faster
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