People who say "species dysphoria isn't real/is making a mockery of trans people" are crazy to me bc like. You DO realize that dysphoria isnt exclusively tied to gender right. You can be dysphoric about so many things.
It's a feeling of discomfort that tends to particularly be about one's self image. Of course there's gonna be individuals out there uncomfortable with the human body. I'm confident there's people who feel that way even outside of nonhuman/alterhuman spaces.
Unpopular opinion but you cannot fake being alterhuman. If you're worried about faking it, you are not. It's also kind of impossible to fake
"What if I'm not actually an animal, but I just want to be?" There's a term for that
"What if I'm just a human who convinced myself I have a connection with this animal?" There's a term for that
"What if I'm faking my theriotype and I'm actually some other animal??" Your theriotype is real to you and that's what matters. Maybe you discovered you aren't a wolf, but at one point you felt a close enough connection that you really deeply felt and experienced being one, and.... there's a term for that
Literally there is no way to fake being an alterhuman if you have good intentions. Do whatever you want forever. You're what you say you are
Alterhumans! What is your religious identity?
Athiest
Buddhist
Christian
Hindu
Jewish
Muslim
Sikh
Taoist
Unique to my indigenous group
Pagan
I am spiritual but not religious
Other
See ResultsI'm interested to see the spread of religious identities across the community. Many alterhumans I have encountered are spiritual but not religious or athiests, and I wonder if the broader community reflects that trend. If you have a religious history (ex. I used to be Christian and now I am atheist, I was raised pagan but I converted to Judaism) I'd be interested to hear about it in the tags! :}
Critters, beasts, concepts and alterhumans of all kinds- I came up with an idea.
May I present to you:
The alterhuman biodiversity report
Since the haters say that we all are either wolf or fox therians, I’m going to make a list of all the species (and not only) I encounter in the community. I’m going to pin this post and update it every time I meet someone with a new/different identity.
Also, you can DM me, send me asks, repost or comment if you want your identity to be added. I’ll try to include everyone but it’s probably going to take me some time, so if I don’t add you right away, don’t worry, it’s just going to take me a bit ;)
At the bottom I’ll tag those who I included in this list (unless the user is not ok with it, of course. I’ll try to be careful and look at your blog before tagging you, but if I accidentally tag you/add you on the list without your will then DM me so I’ll remove you).
The colored creatures are my theriotypes/kintpes.
I warn you. The list is going to be long.
hey alterhuman community PLEASE stop appropriating others cultures.
we have had many issues with “faekin” appropriating Celtic culture and we are so sick of it. No elves and fairies are not fae, no the Aos Sí are not the only kind of fae and NO the Aos Sí are not silly creatures and they should be taken extremely seriously.
Please alterhuman community do better
-sincerely a very tired Celtic Faekin
( also every being is welcome to add onto this post with the cultural appropriation you have seen in the alterhuman community ^^ )
also canine alterhumans PLEASE stop calling yourself a "mutt" ESPECIALLY if you are white and not mixed. The term has historically been a slur against mixed folks and is generally very derogatory.
Signed, a very pissed Blasian Coyotekin
Nowadays, I see a lot of folks using alterhuman as a catch-all for not being human. While nonhumanity certainly falls within alterhumanity, alterhumanity does not exclusively refer to species nor is it synonymous with nonhuman identities (ex: therianthropy).
Alterhumanity includes but is not limited to:
Fictionfolk: An umbrella term that encompasses all individuals of fictional origin or hold a personal connection to fiction. This includes fictionkind, fictives, fictionhearted individuals, folks with fictional hearthomes, imagithropes, etc.
Otherhumans: Individuals whose species is human but not in context to humanity as we see it in its current state. Some examples include human fictionkind and archaeosapient early humans or neanderthals.
Heartedness: A broad experience in which an individual may not identify as someone or something, but has a deep, personal connection with that person, place, or thing. This includes folk who are otherhearted/otherkith/synpaths, talehearted folk, and folk who have hearthomes (fictional or not).
Archetropy: An identity in which one heavily identifies with or generally experiences an archetype, trope, or pre-established character model in a way that is central to their identity.
Plurality: The state of more than one person within a body. That said, not all who are plural may relate their plurality to alterhumanity.
Dæmonism: The practice of communicating with one's internal dæmon, a thoughtform stemming from one's subconscious. A dæmon is also given a sentient form, typically a nonhuman animal of sorts. Can be considered as a form of plurality but depends on the individual and their relationship to their dæmon(s).
Soulbonding: A practice in which an individual forms a personal bond or connection to a fictional character and communicates with them from their headspace or soulscape. Can be considered as a form of plurality but depends on the individual and their relationship to their soulbond(s).
Furry Lifestylers: A subset of the furry community whose position in the subculture carries into their daily life. Some members have described it as "furry as a way of life", in which being a furry is inseparable and intrinsic to oneself.
I have alterhuman terms of my own to take into account as well:
Archaeosapiens: Individuals whose alterhuman identity is intrinsically rooted in prehistory, antiquity or mythic accounts of history. Although I don’t use it for myself anymore, I can say as the person who coined it that species is not central to archaeosapience; it is the distinct connection to one’s time that’s central. Anyone of any species can be archaeosapient.
Ontoplanarity: In referral to ontoplanar, which describes individuals who originate from planes and realities outside of this Earth. While one could relate this term to alienkind and spacekind, ontoplanar focuses one’s own point of origin rather than one’s species. In that regard, anyone of any species can be ontoplanar.
There’s also human alterhumans who aren’t specifically otherhumans. The idea that humankind as we know it is completely alienated from alterhumanity is a misconception, likely tying into the assumption that “alterhumanity = nonhumanity”.
I originally discussed this in the Alterhuman (Tumblr) Community but I felt as though I should make this information publicly available, especially with how the term has been sifting around lately. I’m not the first to bring this up, far from it even. If anyone who’s learned something from this wants to know more, here’s some posts to check out:
I understand being excited to find a community that speaks to you. We’ve all been there!
That said, inclusive language is important. Even more so when the terms we use were already inclusive to begin with.
I think the best example I’ve seen to address this phenomenon is Aster’s example referring to queer and its usage. Queerness is vast. It is not synonymous with one specific experience in the LGBTQ+ community. That much is understood online.
In the same vein, alterhumanity is just as vast. It is not synonymous with nonhumanity, be it therianthropy or otherwise. It can be alienating for your peers to see it centralized as that experience alone. Alterhumanity is an ocean of possibilities and perspectives that should be recognized alongside nonhumanity. I encourage folks to look at it in full, if not use terms that specifically highlight what you experience instead of framing alterhumanity as only that experience.
Anonymous asked:
how to tell if it’s kin or hearted?
alterbeing-advice answered:
this is a hard one, and I’ve been dealing with it myself but here are some of the questions that help me the most
this one was hard, hope I was able to help some and I wish you luck!!
!!reminder that this is all optional!!
Really what it boils down to is this: does it feel right to look at the thing in question and say "I am [x]"? If yes, it's a kintype. If no, it might be a hearttype instead, especially if it feels "like family" or similar.
Of course, that's often easier said than actually figured out, so some links that might be useful to you, anon:
Oop, showing up to infodump again '^^
I'm not sure where the idea that identifying with means "wishing or wanting to be" came from, but it's not really... true? If you long to be [that thing], feel like you should've been [that thing] - that is first and foremost a sign that you are that thing already, on some level, or that you would be happier identifying as it!
If you want to be a nonhuman species, and wish you were it: that isn't a conventional otherheart experience, but it is a pretty understandable experience for an otherkin who doesn't yet know (or accept) that they are nonhuman.
So that's... really not what the difference is between otherhearted and otherkin at all asjkdhaskjhd
It's a widespread misconception nowadays that hurts both otherkin and otherhearted. Otherkin because it can create a loop of self-invalidation ("am I really otherkin, though, or do I just want to be?" This is a nonsense concept! If you want to be then you can be!); otherhearted because it is a fundamental misunderstanding of the experience which reduces it to "otherkin lite" or "not quite kin enough".
I think the focus on the ideas of "identify as" versus "identify with" is part of the problem here, cause those are abstract and ambiguous concepts. There's no guidance given by them - most people couldn't tell you clearly what one means versus the other.
I'll give you my explanation, to the best of my ability.
Otherkin, who identify as nonhuman, perceive themselves on some level as being nonhuman in their own mind, emotions, instincts, cognition, self-perception, or self-image. Not all of these are required to be otherkin, of course - and for some folks there are physical aspects as well, but usually there's going to be a mental or emotional part of the identity too.
Non-physical identity, or identity different from that which you were raised with, can be a hard concept to grasp and certainly a hard one to recognise in yourself. Some people (like yours truly!) have a relatively straightforward time of it - able to simply untether ourselves from the ideas we were raised with, and recognise that the face we see in the mirror isn't necessarily who we are.
Aka, my systemmate, didn't have it so easy. Aka has always wanted to be a dragon. When ae was a kid, it occupied aes mind on a daily basis. Ae had phantom shifts, and played pretend all the time... scrambling around on all fours and roaring and holding aes jacket out on windy days pretending it was wings. But when ae reflected on it, ae just saw longing - not being.
And yet, when I recognised this enough to encourage aem to look deeper - and then ae discussed with some other people as well - ae found that being a dragon feels right. That it brings aem incredible joy. That when we drew up an idea of what ae's dragon might look like, it was euphoric for aem.
And in the end - excitedly - Aka realised that ae is dragonkin.
The longing was a manifestation of an identity that already existed, that Aka just hadn't been able to embrace without a bit of perspective (and encouragement) from friends.
If you see someone say they long to be nonhuman, you're doing them a disservice by pointing them to the otherheart term (which doesn't actually mean that) when otherkin is where they belong.
Now, onto what otherhearted means...
This is a term that means a great deal to me. I am arthropod-hearted. I always have been, I think. It's part of who I am.
I am not an arthropod. I don't want to be an arthropod, and I don't need to be. If anything, I find particular meaning in the connection I have with them despite not being one - that's a genuinely important part of the experience for me. They're so different from me, and yet I care so much for them!
For me, this experience is one of a profoundly deep affection which eclipses what is "normal" for a person to have towards nonhumans. Arthropods are my joy. They are my friends, my charges, and my home. They genuinely feel like one of the brightest lights in my life.
There've been times where I've been deeply depressed and miserable, and been pulled up out of it just by a small encounter with a spider or insect.
It's hard to really articulate exactly what they mean to me. Every arthropod I come across pings in my mind the same way my beloved cat does; I love them, I care about them, I want to protect them and understand them.
This is just... such a purely joyful, positive experience for me. Arthropods are the shape of what life means, for me. They are stars in my sky.
That's not the only way otherheartedness can be experienced. For example, Aka is crustacean-hearted, and aes experience of this is very different from my own!
Aka isn't all thoughtful and introspective in the way I am, and if you ask aem why ae's crustacean-hearted, you'll get a shrug. And if you ask aem what it means to aem, mostly what you'll get is excited incoherence as ae pulls up image after image of squat lobsters and rock crabs and shrimp, flailing and gesturing and saying "they're just little guys!" and "they're so shaped!"
And yet, the joy at the heart of it, I can tell you is the same energy as mine towards all arthropods. It's a kind of... boundless affection, enthusiasm, happiness at the simple fact that these creatures exist and we share the world with them!
It's a very beautiful experience. It's also a very unique and distinct experience. Some otherkin might feel a similar enthusiasm towards their kintype/s, but that comes from a perspective of "these are me" or "these are like me". Otherhearted feelings, on the other hand, are if anything defined by the fact that they aren't you - and yet you love them anyway.
And why would you need to be one, when you can exist alongside them? When you can see them from the outside, appreciate them more deeply from the vantage point of a mind that can learn, understand, and ultimately, even use that knowledge to safeguard them or to help other people see some element of the value in them that you do?
It really does break my heart to see how often, and how widely, otherheartedness is misunderstood. And especially to see it characterised as some impossible longing ("I wish I was this, and yet I'm not") - rather than something positive and joyful, which is embraced through enthusiasm and love for something other.
I'm planning to write up a proper essay on the term at some point... once I've gathered the info I need...
But I hope this can serve as some kind of resource in the meantime. I think correcting this misconception will be better for both otherkin and otherhearts. ^u^
Thank you for the explanation! I really appreciate it.
I comment mostly for this:
I'm not sure where the idea that identifying with means "wishing or wanting to be" came from, but it's not really... true? If you long to be [that thing], feel like you should've been [that thing] - that is first and foremost a sign that you are that thing already, on some level, or that you would be happier identifying as it!
If you want to be a nonhuman species, and wish you were it: that isn't a conventional otherheart experience, but it is a pretty understandable experience for an otherkin who doesn't yet know (or accept) that they are nonhuman.
So that's... really not what the difference is between otherhearted and otherkin at all asjkdhaskjhd
Because I think how widespread that idea is might partially be my doing, tbh. See, one of the first direct comparisons between 'heartedness and 'kinity I got was Daski's explanation linked above - and that is how dei described it, though I don't know if that's still how dei experiences it. It was one of the only really good resources I had for explaining the difference, so it's something I linked to people when they asked, and I've linked it a lot of times over the years. I don't know if that post is where the generally widespread idea came from, but I do know it's the earliest I saw of it.
This isn't necessarily me disagreeing with you - I do generally agree with the principle of "wanting to be a thing is a symptom of being that thing", and therefore it probably isn't The Typical 'Hearted Experience. But if I'm right, it did in fairness originally come from the direct experiences of someone who's fictionhearted, so it's not exactly wrong either - it didn't come out of nowhere.
That's fair!
(Tone clarifier for the following: passionately and enthusiastically infodumping, not aggressive or angry at all! I clarify because I know my words can come across blunter than I intend when I get into discussion mode '^^)
This is why I phrased it as "isn't a conventional otherheart experience" rather than saying it isn't an otherhearted experience at all. Some otherhearted folks do experience that, it just isn't what the term in itself means, y'know?
I'd consider it similar to, say, how species dysphoria can be an otherkin experience but it isn't always so - some otherkin have no species dysphoria, and some species dysphoric people aren't otherkin. Species dysphoria isn't what defines otherkin.
So... there is overlap, yes, but that kind of longing is not inherently linked.
Also, to be frank for a moment... it's possible that calling those "longing" experiences otherhearted could've be a misunderstanding of the concept from the start. The definitions you've linked don't really describe what otherhearted originally meant.
I'm not someone who'd cling to an old definition just because it's "the original" - I honestly and truly don't think the modern understanding of the term is useful. And it certainly doesn't do justice to the unique concept it was coined to describe.
Longing is not what I'd choose to define otherhearted, specifically because it can also be an otherkin experience (and, to me it tracks better as an otherkin experience - I think most people who long in that way are more likely to find joy in being otherkin than being otherhearted) - or it could be a plural experience, or an archetrope experience, or a furry experience, or any number of other things really!
It doesn't work as a differentiating, or defining quality. It's an ambiguous idea that doesn't do justice to the intention of the term, or unique qualities of the experience.
Whereas describing the kind of experience that is unique to otherheartedness gives more practical, usable information - and also doesn't rely on comparison to nonhuman identities, and doesn't create the impression that otherhearted "just a version of being otherkin" or "just a lesser alternative to otherkin".
"Otherkin but they're not actually the species, they just really want to be, on a level that's so moving it is a key part of who they are"... that, to me, sounds much more like a manifestation of an identify-as experience than identify-with.
Now, naturally the description I've given in the previous reply is only mine and Aka's... it's our own ways of being otherhearted, not a diagnostic. But it is our candid experience of it, which is entirely distinct from our nonhuman identities and, in truth couldn't even be mistaken for a kintype.
(One of the things I'm looking to do before I write up something proper on this is get an idea of how a variety of different otherhearted folks experience it - find the commonalities and a spread of examples of how it can feel and manifest).
For a bit of context, my understanding of the term comes from around when it first started to be used in the therian and otherkin communities, which was... ehh, maybe a decade ago?
But it seems to have landed in a very confused, ambiguous place in the time between then and now. Most people don't seem to really understand what it means - most definitions just give the "identifying with instead of as" definition, with no explanation of how that actually feels (if anything, the "identify as" contrast is usually explained more, and "identify with" is treated as anything which isn't included in "identify as", rather than its own experience).
And most often the only other idea given is this one of "longing", which... isn't definitionally an otherheart experience, because that can (as said before) be related to many kinds of identity.
Plus... I've also seen it used to "quietly" invalidate fluid, ambiguous, non-shifting, or subtle nonhuman identity experiences. And that really sucks. That's one of the reasons I think the misunderstanding is harmful to both "sides".
And overall, the way that the heart of this beautiful, unique experience has been lost is... genuinely tragic for the community imo.
I don't have much sway over anything - I'm not a well-known and respected member of the community, just someone who shows up to infodump every now and then! But I hope things can change, I really do.
I get where you’re coming from and don’t necessarily disagree with your core point - that is, that that shouldn’t be presented as The Core Otherhearted Experience, especially when contrasting ‘heartedness with ‘kinity, because you’re right, that’s not going to be very useful in a lot of cases and there’s probably more global otherhearted experiences that can be cited - but I do want to gently point out that you are kind of being rude in saying this:
Also, to be frank for a moment… it’s possible that calling those “longing” experiences otherhearted could’ve be a misunderstanding of the concept from the start. The definitions you’ve linked don’t really describe what otherhearted originally meant.
And thereby basically saying that Daski and others like deim are wrong about their own experiences. You say that you acknowledge that some otherhearted people do experience their ‘heartedness that way, which is appreciated, but then you immediately followed up by saying “but actually I think they’re wrong and misunderstood it”. For some people that distinction between “should be” and “is” is important and meaningful, and while granted I’m not exactly otherhearted myself, I don’t think it’s fair to say it goes against the meaning of otherheartedness to include that either. You’re edging into throwing out the baby with the bathwater a bit here, and I don’t necessarily think you mean to do that, but that is what you’re doing when you’re faced with someone who is both otherkin and otherhearted and tells you that this is the distinction between them for deim, and your response is “but that’s not really what otherheartedness is typically, that sounds more like ‘kinity in denial”.
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ALTGranted, this is a survey that could have been better run, but the amount of people who agree their 'hearted experience includes Daski's description of (paraphrasing) "I should have been this, but I'm not" aren't insignificant. Neither are those who would want to be their hearttype or see it as their ideal self.
I'll admit this is a point that isn't great for an introduction to 'heartedness as it requires a fine degree of Nuance and it does make differentiating it from a 'kin identity confusing, but I don't believe it should be regarded as a mislabeled experience.
I can't speak for "I should have been this," but I do go through cycles of longing to be my hearttype.
What's so strange about longing to be something we have a deep connection with? How is that incompatible with an otherhearted experience?
raccoon therians, PLEASE stop abbreviating raccoon to coon. THAT IS A SLUR, coming from a black alterhuman, its always really scary to see that esp bc of how white centered alterhuman communities are
I WENT TO A ZOO AND FOUMD A BINTURONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YIPEEEEEEEEEEE
Made a new design. Honestly, I wanna put this on my wall of my new room. I want to make stickers and stuff out of this, for all doggies like myself (and supporters of said awoos) to use. :)
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Imagine this on a waterbottle
That’d be so cute.
