flickering-nightfall

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Made these immediately after finishing the first ending, but I wanted to wait until more people caught up to that point before I posted it. Haha

It's a good thing I waited - at this point there's been a lot of people saying the shadows in the shop aren't the best indicator of height. Even within the region itself, giant ancients (or tiny everything else) doesn't make sense - the shelves and masks in the shop, the path to the void baths, etc. A friend (and others like skybristle) suggested that the scaling could be so off because Spinning Top (the echo's) memories of being a child skewed the perspective somehow.

I wasn't sure, because AU doesn't change for Watcher after Spinning Top has passed on, but given the rot can't spread to Ancient Urban (or Terrace or Daemon), it's possible that place really is not as physical as it seems? In any case, that would keep things open-ended without taking away from the powerful impression of the scene.

The scale was extremely cool, but if taken literally, I feel like it kind of detracts from the grandiosity of other regions. The wall to these ancients would be a rock climbing route... And the average region a stroll around the block... (at least if we take the space we see slugcat traverse literally, anyways)... waist-height subterranean cargo trains, haha, um...

Still - iterator puppets being literal hand (or finger. they're so small) puppets is a pretty novel concept. This size ancient could crush a scavenger or a lizard underfoot without really thinking about it. Vultures are turkey-sized and Rain Deer are spindly rabbits. Sky Whales aren't even as long as those ancients are tall.

A giant ancient holds a hand puppet up to an opened wall of Pebbles' chamber. His puppet stares back.ALT
An ancient with a bronze mask grips Pebbles' puppet in one hand, and Watcher in the other. They're both rat-sized to them.ALT

Here's a height estimate to make sense within the shop:

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Watcher (and Spinning Top) sized up to match the toy art:

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This is how big I've been headcanoning them. (To be clear, I'm not pushing this size as "correct" - it's just what I've been working with.) They can actually fit in the subterranean train carts this way:

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I think this is the tallest they can get to reasonably fit through the void bath path. (With my headcanon size as well)

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Echo comparisons for fun. Not all echoes are the same size, but Spinning Top is smaller than the rest. (And also none of these make sense with any the proposed sizes if they're taken literally, lol)

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And a few more I snagged while I was working on second ending stuff (Stormy Coast, Torrential Railways, Shattered Terrace):

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Yeah you get the point.

I was really excited and emotional when I first realized what was going on, standing under the light of that manhole. I had joked about Watcher going back in time to meet ancients, back when I was guessing what the campaign could be about, but I didn't think it would actually happen. And I really like a lot of the new stuff for them, in terms of background pieces and mentions from Spinning Top.

Cool reveal - now I've got brain worms! I'm thinking about them more and more...

Pebbles sits next to an ancient, the latter of which is about twice his height.ALT