Everything Random (Posts tagged stiles)

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distractedducky

Ok, so I had an idea for a teen wolf fic I have neither the talent nor the time to write - so I’m putting it out into the world for those much more talented and motivated then me.

It’s kinda a 5+1 sounding idea about the fact that the wolves think stiles is weaker then he is. Not in a bad way, but in the way where they no longer know how to gage human strength and even though stiles looks like this

They forget that he is probably in better shape then almost any human around (not to mention in an fbi training programming).

So the basic idea is either stiles will be doing something that requires strength- like lifting bags of cement or fertilizer- moving/opening something- etc and a pack member will either come in and “help” him by assuming he was struggling. Or stiles pretends to struggle and then a pack member helps them only for when they leave for him to just effortlessly handle the rest.

I picture it either ending with stiles having to do something when the wolves are incapacitated- either funny like they lost their powers and stiles has to do a bunch of stuff they used to. Or serious like they are all in danger and stiles moves a thing previously thought to be too much for him.

Mostly I have this scene in my head of stiles moving into a new apt or something with someone from quantico and Derek or Scott won’t let him lift anything heavy . And while there doing that the other person who is human and knows stiles is strong just goes “ they do know you can bench press my body weight right” and stiles just grins.

Anyway, someone can do whatever with this. It can be any time line with any pack members, ships or no ships. Let it infect your brain like it has mine.

My only ask, is if this does inspire you to write something please tag me.

Have a great day

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That's an IDEA

distractedducky

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This person is seeing the vision

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gynnnicsworld

You know Sterek has been frequently 'cancelled' and attacked for basically being the most popular ship in the TW world, right?

Because of the age gap between them, right?
Well, I have to complain about it, because it really pisses me off that they're discarding the beautiful, slow-burning love story that exists between Stiles and Derek in CANON.
Because damn it, they liked each other.

It bothers me that they tarnish Sterek's image for things like being a "pedo" ship when NO, they're not. They're trying to lump us all into a "sick shipper" category.

If we're being honest, Sterek has probably been the story with the most backstory, where we've seen how each season has seen the closeness between Stiles and Derek grow, where they've gone from 'hating each other and having to deal with each other because of Scott' to genuinely caring for each other to the point where Derek would take a bullet for Stiles or Stiles would go against the entire FBI to protect and get Derek out of whatever mess he was in.

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They care deeply and genuinely for each other, so much so that Derek preserved and fixed Stiles' Jeep, keeping it in his garage as a sort of memento or anchor for him.

It bothers me so much that they talk shit about Sterek when this couple exists:

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sorry but parrish/lydia was a canon pairing between a teenager and an ADULT and if that wasn't enough, an adult from the sheriff's department.

Why aren't people talking about this more? Why are they attacking Sterek instead?
Sterek: a couple that wasn't canon during the show's run, and we only got confirmation of feelings for each other through the actors and through obvious hints in the show. But directly, it was never a canon couple between a teenager and an adult guy. They were together.

I put the adult that way because Derek's age was never confirmed as such. At the beginning of the series, Stiles says Derek is only a couple of years older than him and Scott. So at the beginning of the series, Derek was between 18 and 19 years old. But later on, they address the fire, so they change the age again, but they never say exactly how old he is, so canonically Derek could be 2 to 5 years older than Stiles. You choose what age gap to give them.

While Lydia, about 17, and Jordan Parish, over 20, are a CANON couple.

Anyway, hypocrisy and homophobia, right?

But there is a VERY important theme between the Derek/Stiles relationship, which if you ask me made the possibility of a relationship between the two of them impossible while Stiles was still a high school student and perhaps only when Stiles was older could something exist between them.

The existence of this damn bitch and what she did to Derek.

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I hate her as much as you do, and it disgusts me to have to watch Teenage Derek with her.

But it's important to what I wanted to say; it's why I think Derek repressed his feelings for Stiles.

According to the Teen Wolf book, Kate was Derek's substitute swim teacher, who used certain hormones and scents to attract the teenage Derek to her.
YES, that was not only a relationship rife with manipulation, power imbalances, and pedophilia, but she also ended up orchestrating the murder of Derek's family at a moment of vulnerability for Derek because Paige's death hadn't happened long before.

We all know Derek blames himself for the death of his family, and he hates Kate. He knows what she did to him. He knows he was manipulated by an older woman and that he fell for her.

Derek has serious trust and self-confidence issues.

He doesn't believe he's worthy of love or peace.

His anchor until Season 2 was anger because his life was infested with anger/hate/rage.

So he sees himself as something bad, something that hurts, someone who destroys what he loves.
He's a victim of sexual abuse, even though he doesn't admit it.

But Stiles became that little glimmer of light annoying, but a light in his dark life filled with negative things.
Stiles earned his trust. Stiles fought every step of the way and broke down that wall Derek built around himself to keep people away from him, because trust means giving someone the power to hurt you. Oh well, Derek's mind worked that way.
Unbeknownst to him, Stiles earned that trust.

And that's where we have this scene.

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This is where Derek lets us see how important Stiles has become to him, Stiles became his anchor.

At this point, it's undeniable that Derek already has feelings for Stiles. He trusts Stiles blindly. But then, why didn't Derek do anything to have Stiles?
Because Derek is a victim of sexual abuse by a woman who took advantage of him in high school. And Derek never dealt with that trauma, or we were never shown to have it that way.

Derek dates women, of course—Jennifer (who also manipulated him), Braeden, etc.—whose relationships didn't end well or were never serious.

But not with Stiles, because Stiles is like that extremely important thing where he can't ruin that connection they have, he can't taint or sully this relationship he has with Stiles. It's too important to Derek. Plus, the untreated traumas surrounding his abuser are a clear impediment to starting something real, something serious. And everything seems to indicate that Stiles is THAT person his unconscious heart has chosen.

That is, to start any romantic relationship with Stiles, Derek has to face all of his demons, all of his traumas first, in order to give Stiles what he believes Stiles deserves.

Kate ruined Derek's heart and mind a lot, plus Derek already had a wounded and bleeding heart since Paige.

So, a relationship as such didn't exist in the series between S/D, and it was quite unlikely that it would, but the feelings were always there.

That's why I don't understand why they keep attacking a couple who has SO MUCH backstory, and who if they ever dated, it was definitely when they were already adults and able to deal with their own issues.

The sheriff's line about the jeep and Derek always makes me think that the sheriff was always aware and noticed everything. He never disapproved; on the contrary, he supported them, because he knows there's no one who deserves each other more than those two.
It was also a clear confirmation that Derek always had feelings for Stiles, complicated feelings he didn't know how to address, but whose feelings led him to treasure and fix Stiles's jeep.

distractedducky

The hate also makes no sense when you just consider shipping in general. Like it’s a ship, it can be deep or fun. I one hundred percent agree with OP about their time line and Derek’s attachment to stiles. But what always got me is how much hate this couple got for being “unhealthy” or “pedophilic”. In general. It’s a ship! And honesty not one of the worst ones out there. Not even looking at Lydia and parish, the twins from TW are also confirmed to be over 18 when the alpha pack enrolls them in the high school and both twins date a high schooler but people seem to gloss over that. Outside of TW I can think of dozens of more unhealthy (will xHannibal) or age gap (rose x the doctor; rose being canonically 19 when she goes off with him and falls for him) relationships that people don’t seem to have the same open disgust for. Honestly I think the fandom for TW has a set of people who just don’t like Sterek and use the “problems” with the ship to cover up for the fact that it’s a fandom dominating ship and they don’t like it or want to read or engage with it in everything. Which is fair but also not an excuse to try to paint one of the first modern (2010) prominent gay ships as problematic when they could just deal with the fact that it’s popular and also not for them. Yes the ship was over hyped up but it came out during the time of supernatural craze (years of gaslighting and behind the scenes manipulation) and the actors behind the scene where told to play up their relationship which lead to some hard core queer bating. Shippers took that stuff seriously and it mattered to them. This show had a queer show runner and queer characters and fans had legitimate hope for positive queer shipping. Sterek mattered for that. This isn’t the time of our flag means death where people followed through with them being gay or 911 where the writers adapt to the characters as they start to evolve beyond their original intentions. So people liked sterek, people thought sterek might go cannon but it was going to be a slow burn and just like OP said they had a backstory, they had layers being built on trust and impactful interactions and conversations. And there where constant nods to their connection feeding shippers even when they weren’t on screen togeather (stiles looking at possibly Derek’s initials plus the whole jeep thing in the movie)

It’s just so hypocritical the hate this ship gets for being “pediphilic” or “problematic” when within the media it is presented it is one of the most stable relationships built in a real foundation. And that my canal point, taking something no within the context it is presented. Age gap relationships in TW are messy for a lot of reasons (the Kate of it all) which seem to give people the idea that the show doesn’t support them even though it so does. The world the show takes place in is what matters at the end of the day. And in TW age gaps violence and being queer don’t seem to matter they way they do in the real world so the ship that forms from that should be judged by the standard set in their world. That’s basic lit analysis.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. I just hate seeing all this shit about how “problematic” sterek is and why it’s disgusting that so many people ship it when it’s just not. For god sake people have shipped characters from different franchises, characters from different universes, characters who legitimately want to eat their love interest (I’m looking at you twilight) and yet Sterek is the problem.

For a ship with such clear moments throughout the show to build a relationship out of I feel like people should understand why fanfic writers and artists would want to engage with that and why general shippers would want to engage with their art.

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