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module: remove --experimental-default-type #56092
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While I understand this option is deemed unnecessary for now, from the notes I was unable to determine the underlying reasons.
Specifically, has it been decided that Node.js should never implement a flag to change the top-level interpretation?
And if not, why should we remove this now, and what would have to change in future, to reconsider such a flag?
Anyone coming back to this issue will probably want to know the answers to these questions, so it would be very useful to clearly state for reference.
No formal decision has been made; landing this PR would be effectively making the decision, but only until someone lands a PR to add the flag back. Decisions are never final. If you'd like more discussion at the TSC level perhaps we could add this PR to the TSC agenda and you could join the next TSC meeting? We know that flipping the default module system would be a breaking change to at least some (probably large) percentage of users, even years from now. I think the main question is: how would ESM-by-default be meaningfully different than the current status quo of syntax detection enabled by default, that would justify the disruption? I can't really think of any differences that users would notice, other than ambiguous ESM JavaScript loading without a warning to add the
The reasons to remove this are:
As for what would have to change in the future, in the various discussions (sorry, I can't find links) there was talk about potentially revisiting this and flipping the default several years from now, once the transition to ESM is truly far along and not just writing but also running CommonJS syntax is anachronistic; but per https://github.com/wooorm/npm-esm-vs-cjs#data we're still at something like two-thirds of most popular npm libraries being CommonJS, with movement of only about 4% in the past year. At this rate it will be many years before we pass the tipping point, though hopefully |
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lgtm 🎉
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One day, maybe :)
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PR-URL: #56092 Reviewed-By: Yagiz Nizipli <[email protected]> Reviewed-By: Matteo Collina <[email protected]> Reviewed-By: Michaël Zasso <[email protected]> Reviewed-By: Jacob Smith <[email protected]>
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Belated LGTM but I agree with #56092 (comment) - hopefully with |
* chore: upgrade Node.js to v24.10.0 * chore: fixup crypto patch * chore: fixup crypto test patch * src: prepare for v8 sandboxing nodejs/node#58376 * esm: fix module.exports export on CJS modules nodejs/node#57366 * chore: fixup lazyload fs patch * esm: Source Phase Imports for WebAssembly nodejs/node#56919 * module: remove --experimental-default-type nodejs/node#56092 * lib,src: refactor assert to load error source from memory nodejs/node#59751 * src: add source location to v8::TaskRunner nodejs/node#54077 * src: remove dependency on wrapper-descriptor-based CppHeap nodejs/node#54077 * src: do not use soon-to-be-deprecated V8 API nodejs/node#53174 * src: stop using deprecated fields of v8::FastApiCallbackOptions nodejs/node#54077 * test: update v8-stats test for V8 12.6 nodejs/node#54077 * esm: unflag --experimental-wasm-modules nodejs/node#57038 * test: adapt assert tests to stack trace changes nodejs/node#58070 * src,test: unregister the isolate after disposal and before freeing nodejs/node#58070 * src: use cppgc to manage ContextifyContext nodejs/node#56522 * src: replace uses of FastApiTypedArray nodejs/node#58070 * module: integrate TypeScript into compile cache nodejs/node#56629 * deps: update ada to 3.2.7 nodejs/node#59336 * src: make minor cleanups in encoding_binding.cc nodejs/node#57448 * src: switch from `Get/SetPrototype` to `Get/SetPrototypeV2` nodejs/node#55453 * src: use non-deprecated Get/SetPrototype methods nodejs/node#59671 * src: simplify string_bytes with views nodejs/node#54876 * src: improve utf8 string generation performance nodejs/node#54873 * src: use non-deprecated Utf8LengthV2() method nodejs/node#58070 * src: use non-deprecated WriteUtf8V2() method nodejs/node#58070 * src: refactor WriteUCS2 and remove flags argument nodejs/node#58163 * src: use String::WriteV2() in TwoByteValue nodejs/node#58164 * node-api: use WriteV2 in napi_get_value_string_utf16 nodejs/node#58165 * node-api: use WriteOneByteV2 in napi_get_value_string_latin1 nodejs/node#58325 * src: migrate WriteOneByte to WriteOneByteV2 nodejs/node#59634 * fs: introduce dirent\.parentPath nodejs/node#50976 * src: avoid copy by using std::views::keys nodejs/node#56080 * chore: fixup patch indices * fix: errant use of context->GetIsolate() * fix: tweak BoringSSL compat patch for new changes * fix: add back missing isolate dtor declaration * fixup! esm: fix module.exports export on CJS modules * cli: remove --no-experimental-fetch flag https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52611/files * esm: Source Phase Imports for WebAssembly nodejs/node#56919 * fixup! src: prepare for v8 sandboxing * chore: bump @types/node to v24 * chore: fix const assignment in crypto test * fix: sandbox pointer patch issues * chore: rework source phase import patch * src: add percentage support to --max-old-space-size nodejs/node#59082 * chore: fixup crypto tests * chore: HostImportModuleWithPhaseDynamically todo * fix: cjs esm failures * fix: v8::Object::Wrappable issues - v8/node@b72a615 - v8/node@490bac2 - v8/node@4896a0d * chore: remove deleted specs * src: use v8::ExternalMemoryAccounter nodejs/node#58070 * fs: port SonicBoom module to fs module as FastUtf8Stream nodejs/node#58897 * chore: tweak sandboxed pr patch * test: disable parallel/test-os-checked-function * test: use WHATWG URL instead of url.parse * fix: OPENSSL_secure_zalloc doesn't work in BoringSSL * chore: fix accidental extra line * 7017517: [defer-import-eval] Parse import defer syntax https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/v8/v8/+/7017517
nodejs/node#56092 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]>
* chore: upgrade Node.js to v24.10.0 * chore: fixup crypto patch * chore: fixup crypto test patch * src: prepare for v8 sandboxing nodejs/node#58376 * esm: fix module.exports export on CJS modules nodejs/node#57366 * chore: fixup lazyload fs patch * esm: Source Phase Imports for WebAssembly nodejs/node#56919 * module: remove --experimental-default-type nodejs/node#56092 * lib,src: refactor assert to load error source from memory nodejs/node#59751 * src: add source location to v8::TaskRunner nodejs/node#54077 * src: remove dependency on wrapper-descriptor-based CppHeap nodejs/node#54077 * src: do not use soon-to-be-deprecated V8 API nodejs/node#53174 * src: stop using deprecated fields of v8::FastApiCallbackOptions nodejs/node#54077 * test: update v8-stats test for V8 12.6 nodejs/node#54077 * esm: unflag --experimental-wasm-modules nodejs/node#57038 * test: adapt assert tests to stack trace changes nodejs/node#58070 * src,test: unregister the isolate after disposal and before freeing nodejs/node#58070 * src: use cppgc to manage ContextifyContext nodejs/node#56522 * src: replace uses of FastApiTypedArray nodejs/node#58070 * module: integrate TypeScript into compile cache nodejs/node#56629 * deps: update ada to 3.2.7 nodejs/node#59336 * src: make minor cleanups in encoding_binding.cc nodejs/node#57448 * src: switch from `Get/SetPrototype` to `Get/SetPrototypeV2` nodejs/node#55453 * src: use non-deprecated Get/SetPrototype methods nodejs/node#59671 * src: simplify string_bytes with views nodejs/node#54876 * src: improve utf8 string generation performance nodejs/node#54873 * src: use non-deprecated Utf8LengthV2() method nodejs/node#58070 * src: use non-deprecated WriteUtf8V2() method nodejs/node#58070 * src: refactor WriteUCS2 and remove flags argument nodejs/node#58163 * src: use String::WriteV2() in TwoByteValue nodejs/node#58164 * node-api: use WriteV2 in napi_get_value_string_utf16 nodejs/node#58165 * node-api: use WriteOneByteV2 in napi_get_value_string_latin1 nodejs/node#58325 * src: migrate WriteOneByte to WriteOneByteV2 nodejs/node#59634 * fs: introduce dirent\.parentPath nodejs/node#50976 * src: avoid copy by using std::views::keys nodejs/node#56080 * chore: fixup patch indices * fix: errant use of context->GetIsolate() * fix: tweak BoringSSL compat patch for new changes * fix: add back missing isolate dtor declaration * fixup! esm: fix module.exports export on CJS modules * cli: remove --no-experimental-fetch flag https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52611/files * esm: Source Phase Imports for WebAssembly nodejs/node#56919 * fixup! src: prepare for v8 sandboxing * chore: bump @types/node to v24 * chore: fix const assignment in crypto test * fix: sandbox pointer patch issues * chore: rework source phase import patch * src: add percentage support to --max-old-space-size nodejs/node#59082 * chore: fixup crypto tests * chore: HostImportModuleWithPhaseDynamically todo * fix: cjs esm failures * fix: v8::Object::Wrappable issues - v8/node@b72a615 - v8/node@490bac2 - v8/node@4896a0d * chore: remove deleted specs * src: use v8::ExternalMemoryAccounter nodejs/node#58070 * fs: port SonicBoom module to fs module as FastUtf8Stream nodejs/node#58897 * chore: tweak sandboxed pr patch * test: disable parallel/test-os-checked-function * test: use WHATWG URL instead of url.parse * fix: OPENSSL_secure_zalloc doesn't work in BoringSSL * chore: fix accidental extra line * 7017517: [defer-import-eval] Parse import defer syntax https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/v8/v8/+/7017517
* chore: upgrade Node.js to v24.10.0 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fixup crypto patch Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fixup crypto test patch Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: prepare for v8 sandboxing nodejs/node#58376 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * esm: fix module.exports export on CJS modules nodejs/node#57366 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fixup lazyload fs patch Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * esm: Source Phase Imports for WebAssembly nodejs/node#56919 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * module: remove --experimental-default-type nodejs/node#56092 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * lib,src: refactor assert to load error source from memory nodejs/node#59751 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: add source location to v8::TaskRunner nodejs/node#54077 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: remove dependency on wrapper-descriptor-based CppHeap nodejs/node#54077 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: do not use soon-to-be-deprecated V8 API nodejs/node#53174 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: stop using deprecated fields of v8::FastApiCallbackOptions nodejs/node#54077 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * test: update v8-stats test for V8 12.6 nodejs/node#54077 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * esm: unflag --experimental-wasm-modules nodejs/node#57038 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * test: adapt assert tests to stack trace changes nodejs/node#58070 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src,test: unregister the isolate after disposal and before freeing nodejs/node#58070 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: use cppgc to manage ContextifyContext nodejs/node#56522 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: replace uses of FastApiTypedArray nodejs/node#58070 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * module: integrate TypeScript into compile cache nodejs/node#56629 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * deps: update ada to 3.2.7 nodejs/node#59336 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: make minor cleanups in encoding_binding.cc nodejs/node#57448 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: switch from `Get/SetPrototype` to `Get/SetPrototypeV2` nodejs/node#55453 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: use non-deprecated Get/SetPrototype methods nodejs/node#59671 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: simplify string_bytes with views nodejs/node#54876 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: improve utf8 string generation performance nodejs/node#54873 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: use non-deprecated Utf8LengthV2() method nodejs/node#58070 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: use non-deprecated WriteUtf8V2() method nodejs/node#58070 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: refactor WriteUCS2 and remove flags argument nodejs/node#58163 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: use String::WriteV2() in TwoByteValue nodejs/node#58164 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * node-api: use WriteV2 in napi_get_value_string_utf16 nodejs/node#58165 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * node-api: use WriteOneByteV2 in napi_get_value_string_latin1 nodejs/node#58325 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: migrate WriteOneByte to WriteOneByteV2 nodejs/node#59634 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fs: introduce dirent\.parentPath nodejs/node#50976 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: avoid copy by using std::views::keys nodejs/node#56080 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fixup patch indices Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: errant use of context->GetIsolate() Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: tweak BoringSSL compat patch for new changes Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: add back missing isolate dtor declaration Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fixup! esm: fix module.exports export on CJS modules Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * cli: remove --no-experimental-fetch flag https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52611/files Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * esm: Source Phase Imports for WebAssembly nodejs/node#56919 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fixup! src: prepare for v8 sandboxing Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: bump @types/node to v24 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fix const assignment in crypto test Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: sandbox pointer patch issues Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: rework source phase import patch Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: add percentage support to --max-old-space-size nodejs/node#59082 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fixup crypto tests Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: HostImportModuleWithPhaseDynamically todo Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: cjs esm failures Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: v8::Object::Wrappable issues - v8/node@b72a615 - v8/node@490bac2 - v8/node@4896a0d Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: remove deleted specs Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * src: use v8::ExternalMemoryAccounter nodejs/node#58070 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fs: port SonicBoom module to fs module as FastUtf8Stream nodejs/node#58897 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: tweak sandboxed pr patch Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * test: disable parallel/test-os-checked-function Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * test: use WHATWG URL instead of url.parse Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * fix: OPENSSL_secure_zalloc doesn't work in BoringSSL Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * chore: fix accidental extra line Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> * 7017517: [defer-import-eval] Parse import defer syntax https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/v8/v8/+/7017517 Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]> --------- Co-authored-by: trop[bot] <37223003+trop[bot]@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Shelley Vohr <[email protected]>
This PR removes
--experimental-default-typeper the discussion and consensus at the November 2024 Dublin collaborator summit. This also follows the discussion in nodejs/TSC#1445 and related issues where it was decided that Node.js would not be flipping the default module system anytime soon, if ever, now that the use case of “run ESM syntax without needing to opt in” has been satisfied by module syntax detection. cc @nodejs/loaders