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vitorroriz opened this issue Jun 16, 2023 · 4 comments
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[css-counter-styles-3] fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem #8975

vitorroriz opened this issue Jun 16, 2023 · 4 comments
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Closed Accepted by CSSWG Resolution css-counter-styles-3 Current Work i18n-clreq Chinese language enablement i18n-jlreq Japanese language enablement i18n-klreq Korean language enablement i18n-tracker Group bringing to attention of Internationalization, or tracked by i18n but not needing response.

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As it is being discussed in #8596, it seems the right system for these styles is fixed. With that, the fallback for them becomes more relevant, given they defined just a few symbols (10 and 12). The styles don't explicitly define a fallback, so it is decimal.

I have no knowledge on CJK languages, but I'm wondering if decimal is the best fallback for them. For example, other CJK related styles have cjk-decimal as fallback. So I'd like to discuss if this (or another style) would be a better fallback option here.
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The CSS Working Group just discussed [css-counter-styles-3] fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem, and agreed to the following:

  • RESOLVED: Change fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem to cjk-decimal instead of decimal
  • RESOLVED: Republish CR
The full IRC log of that discussion <TabAtkins> seems reasonable to me too
<emilio> fantasai: seems reasonable, we should make the change and republish
<emilio> miriam: objections, anyone need more context?
<fantasai> emilio: would like someone familiar with cjk to look at it, but otherwise seems fine
<fantasai> +1 TabAtkins
<fantasai> TabAtkins: These fall back to cjk-decimal due to matching fullwidth
<emilio> TabAtkins: all fall back to cjk-decimal because of full-width, same applies to these
<emilio> RESOLVED: Change fallback for cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem to cjk-decimal instead of decimal
<fantasai> RESOLVED: Republish CR

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[css-counter-styles-3] cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem shoul…
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…d fallback to cjk-decimal

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258447
rdar://111208503

Reviewed by Tim Nguyen.

cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem should fallback to cjk-decimal
according to CSSWG resolution: w3c/csswg-drafts#8975

* LayoutTests/fast/lists/w3-css3-list-styles-fallback-style-expected.txt:
* LayoutTests/fast/lists/w3-css3-list-styles-fallback-style.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-earthly-branch/css3-counter-styles-202-expected.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-earthly-branch/css3-counter-styles-202-ref.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-earthly-branch/css3-counter-styles-202.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-heavenly-stem/css3-counter-styles-205-expected.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-heavenly-stem/css3-counter-styles-205-ref.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-heavenly-stem/css3-counter-styles-205.html:
* Source/WebCore/css/counterStyles.css:
(@counter-style cjk-earthly-branch):
(@counter-style cjk-heavenly-stem):

Canonical link: https://commits.webkit.org/265474@main
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xfq commented Jul 7, 2023

We discussed this issue in the Chinese Layout Task Force Teleconference.

The consensus of the task force was that cjk-decimal is an improvement over decimal. simp-chinese-informal and trad-chinese-informal are even better, but since cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem do not distinguish between Simplified and Traditional Chinese, we're OK with keeping it as is (cjk-decimal).

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@xfq we could create another issue for adding new styles, like: cjk-earthly-brach-simp and cjk-earthly-branch-trad each with a specific fallback.

@xfq xfq added i18n-jlreq Japanese language enablement i18n-klreq Korean language enablement labels Jul 11, 2023
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[css-counter-styles-3] cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem shoul…
6faeb15 
…d fallback to cjk-decimal

https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258447
rdar://111208503

Reviewed by Tim Nguyen.

cjk-earthly-branch and cjk-heavenly-stem should fallback to cjk-decimal
according to CSSWG resolution: w3c/csswg-drafts#8975

* LayoutTests/fast/lists/w3-css3-list-styles-fallback-style-expected.txt:
* LayoutTests/fast/lists/w3-css3-list-styles-fallback-style.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-earthly-branch/css3-counter-styles-202-expected.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-earthly-branch/css3-counter-styles-202-ref.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-earthly-branch/css3-counter-styles-202.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-heavenly-stem/css3-counter-styles-205-expected.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-heavenly-stem/css3-counter-styles-205-ref.html:
* LayoutTests/imported/w3c/web-platform-tests/css/css-counter-styles/cjk-heavenly-stem/css3-counter-styles-205.html:
* Source/WebCore/css/counterStyles.css:
(@counter-style cjk-earthly-branch):
(@counter-style cjk-heavenly-stem):

Canonical link: https://commits.webkit.org/265474@main
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[css-counter-styles-3] Add cjk-decimal fallback to cjk-earthly-branch…
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…/cjk-heavenly-stem w3c#8975
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[css-counter-styles-3] Add cjk-decimal fallback to cjk-earthly-branch…
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…/cjk-heavenly-stem #8975 (#9597)
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r12a commented Nov 28, 2023

These changes were added to the Ready-made Counter Styles doc editor's draft.

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