I don't care if your ~feminism~ is ~inclusive of trans women~ I'd like to see if your ~feminism~ correctly identifies that trans women are the primary recipients of gendered violence in the patriarchy, that transmisogyny is the bedrock of misogyny, and that trans women are not an incidental side group to women.
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Several anons, reblogs, and tags later, and people are still confused about this. I feel like on a basic level people do not understand the objective reality that cis women are part of trans women's oppressor group, anyone that was assigned female at birth is part of trans women's oppressor group, this is why we've had to coin the terms transmisogyny-affected and transmisogyny-exempt, trans women are just literally *more fucking oppressed* than either of the two groups I've mentioned on the class axis that is gender, trans women have to deal with all the same shit that cis women do and then even more on top of that, trans women are at the bottom. Any form of feminism that is not grounded on this is literally just fucking wrong, runs contrary to literal ongoing phenomena, and is doomed to fail.
anyone who isn't transfeminine disqualified from having opinions on femboys 2025 #darkwoke
The femboy population is endangered please we need more feminine twinks
Wrong, there should be more trans women actually
any time someone who isn't a trans woman is negatively compared to trans women, that's proof that trans women aren't hated more than everyone else.
everyone knows that hatred of trans women only matters when it affects people who aren't trans women. it only matters if a *real* woman is accused of being one of us (as a threat.) it only matters if we're discriminated against because next it could be someone like you.
if there was a button that killed all trans women, and only trans women, with no potential collateral damage whatsoever, with 100% accuracy, half of you people would fucking press it.
i'm so sorry some blood spilled on your shoes when you punched me in the face. truly none of us are transmisogyny exempt.
if I ever seem unnecessarily dismissive and unsympathetic regarding “Women's Sports” as poverty-leagues of misogynist neglect, it's because trans women overwhelmingly aren't eligible even for those neglected poverty-leagues, so
remember when everyone got mad at trans women for noting the overwhelming transmisogyny structuring both the harassment and defense of Imane Khelif, who was accused of being a tranny male interloper along racist lines, but unlike a trans woman was able to recourse to being assigned female at birth
in a “Women's” bracket which had exactly zero trans women because a trans woman would never be allowed there in the first place
lol
The idea of "Binary Trans Women" being a category of person that meaningfully exists and possesses relative privilege makes sense if you view gender as a purely internal individualist concept and transphobia as motivated by "People hate it when you deviate from the norm, and the more you deviate the worse they hate you". But by analysing gender in terms of social relations and recognising transphobia as a product of broader patriarchal ideology, you realise that "Binary Trans Women" is a nonsense term that's only useful for justifying transmisogyny without sounding generally transphobic
a central transfeminist point that it's difficult for tmes to wrap their heads around is that trans women do in fact interact with society as women, and are treated as women, even when they're being misgendered. misgendering isn't just misunderstanding, it's a deliberate act of violence targeting a particularly vulnerable class of women
this seemingly paradoxical nature of transmisogyny is what makes talking about these things so maddening
when the trans woman expresses a desire to have large breasts, the transmisogynist will respond in one of two ways.
the overt transmisogynist will likely demean her as some sick pervert, basing her idea of femininity off of the body types preferred by pornography/the patriarchy/what have you. you'll see this in terfs, in open fascists, i.e. bioessentialist circles. the argument that such trans women are, in fact, perverted men, reveals this as a permutation of the 'deceptive transsexual' stereotype. ¹
in contrast, the more subtle transmisogynist will adhere to the other of the two stereotypes. A trans woman who expresses a desire for large breasts in such circles will be instead met with patronizing words by the group - reprimands to the tune of, "Oh, honey, you don't want that! Just think of the back pain!" are perhaps the most common form of this. This form of transmisogyny often stems from those coercively assigned female at birth leveraging that social role as proof of possessing a proximity to femininity that the trans woman could not possibly have. She is considered new to misogyny - if they admit she faces it at all. Such transmisogyny appears most often in supposedly 'queer' social spaces - those where the only conception of 'top surgery' is that of the transmasculine.
@calamari-chaos do you not realize youre doing the exact same shit as in the last paragraph? trans women do not need to be "warned" about "the feminine experience" we've been living the feminine experience our whole fucking lives.
but way to go calling trans women men who downplay misogyny as "not that bad." god forbid trans women actually have desires about our own bodies without consulting the tmes to make sure we dont become too unpalatable to them first.
*first day on earth voice* wow, I am truly shocked to find out that the “women's-only restroom” gofundme which advertised itself as including trans women turned out to actually not include trans women. I thought the gender-segregated restroom would be really safe and good for trans women, because it is my first day alive on earth
you are lying. you are straight up fucking lying to excuse your desire to steal self-describing words from transfems. this term was not coined for inclusivity, it was coined by trans women talking about their personal experiences and identities.
some of the earliest known usages of the term "transfeminine" were in the 80s, noteably, in an article in the magazine the tv-ts tapestry, which was largely made by trans women for trans women. the vast majority of articles were written by trans women and a trans woman was the one who wrote an article using the term. from the beginning, before it was popularized and before a lot of the transgender language used today, it was about trans women. it was created by trans women. you are the one co-opting the term. you are the one who is deliberately trying to muddy the definition of transfem. it has never meant "literally any [trans person] whose gender is more feminine than masculine." shut the fuck up and let trans women have terms of their own.



