I was just thinking about the old Japanese censorship laws that gave birth to tentacle porn…
So for anyone not in the know, the Japanese government decided to fight perversion with censorship.
Specifically you weren’t allowed to draw penises.
So they drew things that WEREN’T penises instead. Like tentacles. Fast forward to today and tentacle porn is an entire standalone genre with thousands upon thousands of examples and enjoyers.
The attempt at censorship did not quell perversion, it only caused it to mutate.
And now I’m thinking about tumblr’s decision to ban porn and of all the people leaving captions under videos of heavy machinery and industrial accidents like “I need someone to do this to me” and “this wouldn’t fix me but it would help” or “everything reminds me of her”
All this to say that without porn on Tumblr
The perverts are mutating again
Y'all got any more videos of paint being removed from jug pumps?
“I don’t want to read this because it is disgusting to me” is totally valid.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
Bro, blocking someone and then using their tag like this is, all offence, weak as fuck. Like all you had to say was, na bro I don’t promote pedo protags on this here blog, because I wholly agree with the premise of your argument given contexts (i.e., writing abusive relationships to show the evils, great; writing abusive relationships to show the romance, yikes).
This response is so, so comically shitty within the context of that tag, oh my god.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“Censorship of some topics in fiction and art is good and I would be happy if it were to be enacted in a way I approved of”
and
“some things should be banned from ever being written or read about in fiction”
are both authoritarian viewpoints to hold and express, even if you don’t have the power to enact them.
If you hold these viewpoints you are holding authoritarian viewpoints.
Something being nasty is not a good reason to ban fiction about it.
If we accept that “something being nasty is a good reason to bad fiction about it” then we give a foot in the door for all the people who truly, genuinely believe that queer people are nasty to ban all queer literature.
This is not about defending bad people this is about defending the freedom of good people from tyranny, you moron.
I think if you take it to its logical extreme. Say, banning people from writing stories of sexual abuse. That could then be said “well ANY talk about sexual abuse is bad.”
And from that, you could ban books that talk about it irl. Or books like how to recover after being abuse. If its not something to be discussed AT ALL.
The fact that I’ve seen this post in some form on my dash like 100x and each time there’s new idiots who do not get that you can’t have *some* censorship.
Either you’re for it or you aren’t.
The moment you agree that something should never, ever exist in fiction is the moment that anything can be banned.
Remember a while back how Tumblr banned a bunch of tags, including many popular innocuous ones that even people who are for censorship used and were upset about?
When censorship happens, stuff YOU like can and will be banned. That’s how it works.
Remember how a bunch of people had their accounts terminated here only last year for writing about their own sexual abuse?
When you ban “pedo” topics, say, any talk of child sexual abuse in any form, that means people can no longer write about their own experiences. It means people cannot educate others so they can learn how to protect themselves or get help from these situations.
Censorship is authoritarian. Full stop.
Even if “everyone” agrees something is “gross” and “shouldn’t exist,” that does not fucking matter.
Do you know who generally believes queer people are gross and shouldn’t exist??
The same people who are banning books left and right solely because they have queer characters or relationships.
The same people who attack and kill queer folk for simply exisiting.
This is not just some fandom matter or a case of being chronically online.
Protecting freedom of expression is essential, and if you do not get that, I don’t know what to say to you.
And the people who keep bringing up child sex abuse as a reason for censorship are doing it very specifically because everyone feels like then they HAVE to agree with the person in favor of censorship.
It’s not that there isn’t widespread societal agreement on this. It’s that they want you backed into a rhetorical corner where you feel compelled to agree with them.
Also, like, we KNOW how this shit shakes out in fandom because it’s happened before.
In 2007, Livejournal capitulated to the “pedophilia and sex crimes!” cries of (hate group) Warriors 4 Innocence, and you know what communities got shut down? Slashfic communities. Sexual assault survivor support communities. Authors who’d written non-smut m/m fic even got caught up in it. It was DEVASTATING to fandom spaces. I think pretty much everyone knew at least one person whose account was literally DELETED, or were a member of a community that was wiped off the map because they were considerate enough to include topics like “sexual assault” or “BDSM” in the profiles under the badly-named category of “interests” to indicate that posts on said blogs or communities may include discussion of things like that. Even if it was for a SUPPORT group. And it was because a group of religious bigots came to LJ and said essentially “EVERYONE thinks it’s gross and that it’s promoting CSA, we should ban it.”
Like, strikethrough and boldthrough were a large part of what propelled AO3 out of a more unfocused conversation on one person’s blog about hosting a site INTENDED for fandom content, into being an actual archive and nonprofit. And it’s a large part of why you won’t find AO3 banning topics that you find “gross”.
Censorship is authoritarian and it will ALWAYS have more collateral damage than you can imagine.
Going to add that fiction which had sexual abuse and communities which played around with it as a writing topic are the very things that protected me from irl sexual abuse when I was a teenager.
I was in a dicey situation, and realized that while my situation did not match up to any of the superficial or textbook cases mentioned in passing (if at all) through school, it matched up a LOT to what I’d learned about irl sexual abuse through works of fiction and the rhetoric of my communities. I got out of that situation and dodged what was, in retrospect, one hell of a nasty bullet.
If it hadn’t been for that “nasty” fiction and those “nasty” communities, I would very likely have been abused, and subject to further violence spiraling out from that abuse.
you can’t have *some* censorship.
Yup! It really is, in fact, pretty much that simple:
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
Storytime!
I had a friend. We were 12. We had just discovered fanfiction and were obsessed. We read anything and everything we could get our hands on. One of the stories we read was a “pedo fic.” It exposed us to scenarios and language that hadn’t ever been touched on in Sex Ed at school or with our parents. To be frank, it “corrupted our young minds with topics we shouldn’t have to deal with.” It also gave my friend words to finally describe why her neighbor creeped her out so much. “He’s creepy and weird” gets a 12 year old scolded and lectured on being nicer. “He’s a sexual predator” gets adults asking questions and involving the cops. Her neighbor “moved away.”
Censorship is pro-pedo and anti-child-safety. There is no communicating what’s wrong if there are no words to describe what’s happening. Bad things will happen whether you have the words to ask for help or not. Censorship takes those words away.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“Bad things will happen whether you have the words to ask for help or not. Censorship takes those words away.”
Hey guys please pay attention to any new changes on these platforms in the terms of service. I, y’know, just have a feeling that we’re about to see a major uptick in censorship.
Here is an article about the bill, introduced to the Michigan State House on 9/11/2025, and the text of the bill: CBS Article, Bill PDF
This bill would prohibit:
The depiction of sexual acts in any manner, including written and of fictional characters
The “depiction, description, or simulation, whether real, animated, digitally generated, written, or auditory, that includes a disconnection between biology and gender by an individual of biological sex imitating, depicting, or representing himself or herself to be of the other biological sex by means of a combination of attire, cosmetology, or prosthetics, or as having a reproductive nature contrary to the individual’s biological sex.” Meaning any representation of Trans people or GNC people.
“The promotion or sale of circumvention tools to access prohibited material” meaning VPNs.
It is extremely important that this bill receives strong pushback from residents of Michigan. Because it is abhorrent in its rhetoric, censorious, and because if it passes (and potentially, even if it doesn’t) it is likely that the GOP will attempt to replicate the bill in other state legislatures (if they are not already doing so).
If you live in Michigan, here is what you can do:
Contact your STATE LEGISLATORS. This means your representatives in the Michigan House and Michigan Senate. These are the individuals with direct power over this bill, NOT your representatives to the national House and Senate.
Here is a website that will help you locate your representatives. It will also provide you with their contact information.
It is PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT that you contact your House Representatives if they are Josh Schriver (District 66, covering parts of Oakland, Washington, Addison, Oxford); Joseph Pavlov (District 64, parts of Sarnia and surrounding); Matt Maddock (District 51, incl Highland, Milford and surrounding); James DeSana (District 29, incl Flat Rock, Berlin, the area outside of Monroe); Joseph Fox (District 101, incl parts of Cadillac, Fremont, Big Rapids); Jennifer Wortz (District 35, incl Coldwater, Hillsdale and surrounding). These are the bill’s sponsors.
It is also important that if you live in their districts you contact Sarah Lightner (District 45), Brian BeGole (Dist 71), Tyrone Carter (Dist 1), Douglas Wozniak (Dist 59), Mike Harris (Dist 52), Jay DeBoyer (Dist 63), Gina Johnson (Dist 78), Bill Schuette (Dist 95), Kara Hope (Dist 74), Kelly Breen (Dist 21), and Helena Scott (Dist 8), who are the members of the Michigan State House Judiciary Committee, which is where the bill has been referred. The bill must make it out of the committee before it can be voted on on the floor.
It is possible that the Republicans in particular will not listen to you, HOWEVER you can make their lives hell over this bill. You can make this bill and others like it VERY undesirable to sponsor in future by calling, emailing, faxing, and sending physical letters.
It is also likely that the local Democratic Party offices will organize against this bill. You can build coalition with them (or any parties/organizations left of them) and move to defeat the bill. It is likely that LGBTQ organizations will also organize to resist the bill, possibly building coalition with ISPs and VPN providers, whose business would be seriously impacted by the passage of the bill. You may also look out for information from the Attorney General of Michigan’s office, as they would be forced to enact the prohibitions.
If you are outside of MI, the most useful thing you can do is probably spread the word, volunteer time with local organizations to help with resistance actions (if they request volunteers from out of state), or donate money to local advocacy networks interested in opposing the bill.
Don’t see anyone on here talking about it yet, but if you’re in Canada: that aggravating age verification bill that got pushed through in the UK? Well, we have a similar one that failed in Parliament a few months ago, but now it’s being pushed forward again.
We’re seeing how that stupid bill is being implemented in the UK, so if we don’t want this bill sneaking it’s way in, we gotta start talking up too.
Haven’t seen many people talking about this. One of the groups behind pressuring steam to remove adult content is a TERF group backed by conservative Christian groups. Once again the root behind a lot of anti-porn talking points is transphobia/transmisogyny and the idea that being trans is a social contagion caused by porn/‘pervertedness’
Now, the group is claiming responsibility for Steam’s new payment processor policies, with its co-founder calling impacted gamers “porn sick” and “brain rotted.” In one case, the organization even retweeted a notoriously anti-trans feminist who declared that “pervert nerds are responsible for most of society’s ills.” The retweeted feminist, a self-described “trans-exclusionary radical feminist,” proceeded to write under her post, “Evidence #1: trans.”
“I don’t want to read this because it is disgusting to me” is totally valid.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
Bro, blocking someone and then using their tag like this is, all offence, weak as fuck. Like all you had to say was, na bro I don’t promote pedo protags on this here blog, because I wholly agree with the premise of your argument given contexts (i.e., writing abusive relationships to show the evils, great; writing abusive relationships to show the romance, yikes).
This response is so, so comically shitty within the context of that tag, oh my god.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“I don’t think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me” is authoritarian.
“Censorship of some topics in fiction and art is good and I would be happy if it were to be enacted in a way I approved of”
and
“some things should be banned from ever being written or read about in fiction”
are both authoritarian viewpoints to hold and express, even if you don’t have the power to enact them.
If you hold these viewpoints you are holding authoritarian viewpoints.
Something being nasty is not a good reason to ban fiction about it.
If we accept that “something being nasty is a good reason to bad fiction about it” then we give a foot in the door for all the people who truly, genuinely believe that queer people are nasty to ban all queer literature.
This is not about defending bad people this is about defending the freedom of good people from tyranny, you moron.
I think if you take it to its logical extreme. Say, banning people from writing stories of sexual abuse. That could then be said “well ANY talk about sexual abuse is bad.”
And from that, you could ban books that talk about it irl. Or books like how to recover after being abuse. If its not something to be discussed AT ALL.
The fact that I’ve seen this post in some form on my dash like 100x and each time there’s new idiots who do not get that you can’t have *some* censorship.
Either you’re for it or you aren’t.
The moment you agree that something should never, ever exist in fiction is the moment that anything can be banned.
Remember a while back how Tumblr banned a bunch of tags, including many popular innocuous ones that even people who are for censorship used and were upset about?
When censorship happens, stuff YOU like can and will be banned. That’s how it works.
Remember how a bunch of people had their accounts terminated here only last year for writing about their own sexual abuse?
When you ban “pedo” topics, say, any talk of child sexual abuse in any form, that means people can no longer write about their own experiences. It means people cannot educate others so they can learn how to protect themselves or get help from these situations.
Censorship is authoritarian. Full stop.
Even if “everyone” agrees something is “gross” and “shouldn’t exist,” that does not fucking matter.
Do you know who generally believes queer people are gross and shouldn’t exist??
The same people who are banning books left and right solely because they have queer characters or relationships.
The same people who attack and kill queer folk for simply exisiting.
This is not just some fandom matter or a case of being chronically online.
Protecting freedom of expression is essential, and if you do not get that, I don’t know what to say to you.
And the people who keep bringing up child sex abuse as a reason for censorship are doing it very specifically because everyone feels like then they HAVE to agree with the person in favor of censorship.
It’s not that there isn’t widespread societal agreement on this. It’s that they want you backed into a rhetorical corner where you feel compelled to agree with them.
Also, like, we KNOW how this shit shakes out in fandom because it’s happened before.
In 2007, Livejournal capitulated to the “pedophilia and sex crimes!” cries of (hate group) Warriors 4 Innocence, and you know what communities got shut down? Slashfic communities. Sexual assault survivor support communities. Authors who’d written non-smut m/m fic even got caught up in it. It was DEVASTATING to fandom spaces. I think pretty much everyone knew at least one person whose account was literally DELETED, or were a member of a community that was wiped off the map because they were considerate enough to include topics like “sexual assault” or “BDSM” in the profiles under the badly-named category of “interests” to indicate that posts on said blogs or communities may include discussion of things like that. Even if it was for a SUPPORT group. And it was because a group of religious bigots came to LJ and said essentially “EVERYONE thinks it’s gross and that it’s promoting CSA, we should ban it.”
Like, strikethrough and boldthrough were a large part of what propelled AO3 out of a more unfocused conversation on one person’s blog about hosting a site INTENDED for fandom content, into being an actual archive and nonprofit. And it’s a large part of why you won’t find AO3 banning topics that you find “gross”.
Censorship is authoritarian and it will ALWAYS have more collateral damage than you can imagine.
Going to add that fiction which had sexual abuse and communities which played around with it as a writing topic are the very things that protected me from irl sexual abuse when I was a teenager.
I was in a dicey situation, and realized that while my situation did not match up to any of the superficial or textbook cases mentioned in passing (if at all) through school, it matched up a LOT to what I’d learned about irl sexual abuse through works of fiction and the rhetoric of my communities. I got out of that situation and dodged what was, in retrospect, one hell of a nasty bullet.
If it hadn’t been for that “nasty” fiction and those “nasty” communities, I would very likely have been abused, and subject to further violence spiraling out from that abuse.
Mixed-race non-binary queer, social justice hooligan, fannish elder and nerdy butch. Here there be intersectionality, fannish shenanigans, queerness, silliness, politics, and scribbling when I can manage it.
