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Ace attorney fans, people with DID, and ace attorney fans with DID, do you think that Uendo Toneido (/Patches/Kisegawa/Owen) is good DID rep? Why or why not? (And do the other characters around Uendo and co. come off as ableist to you when talking about/to them?)

I stg I sound like an 8th grade English assessment question but I’m just curious what y’all think (since I don’t have DID I don’t think I can make an accurate judgement) (and I may or may not be considering writing fanfic about them)

(I am not always aware if something I’m saying comes off as harmful so if anything stated or asked in this post seems ableist please tell me!! And per usual, if this post is not welcome in anything it is tagged as, inform me of such! I will not get upset!)

🍓Hi, we’ve been meaning to respond to this post for awhile, and we apologize for the lateness on the thought. But speaking as an OSDD 1B system: Uendo is pretty typically seen as one of the better, if not THE best, depiction of DID in a mostly widespread series. (Especially for 2016)

Again we have OSDD (like DID but no memory loss) so we’re not one to one with Uendo & co., but we can tell you a number of aspects that are quite refreshing to see.

Many systems in media only have 2 alters despite irl systems usually having more, Uendo shows a more accurate depiction with 4 alters. They also include elements of alters having different ages, gender identities (Kisegawa being AA’s first canon trans woman essentially is a bonus), and being fictives (alters that form through the base of a fictional character. Patches (Ippachi), Kisegawa, and Owen (Isoda) are all named and act after real rakugo characters).

One element we deeply appreciate to this day, because it almost cracked our plural egg, is that it also acknowledges not all alters need hard memory barriers. Most depictions of DID assume every single alter cannot remember what the other did. And while that certainly DOES happen sometimes, most tend to share memories like Uendo, Kisegawa, and Patches. DID is diagnosable when ANY memory barrier occurs, I.E. Owen’s situation.

We’d say the only real hard “yeah that shouldn’t be there” with Uendo is using the term “personalities” to describe the alters. That’s an outdated term and implies them not to be people. Luckily, the game pretty cleanly takes the time to set up and communicate that each alter is their own individual, so even if the terminology is a bit off they have the right spirit about it.

So other characters talking ableistly to them is interesting because it overlaps with one of their greatest strengths: brutally mocking the murder alter trope. It’s a genuine problem that in many series involving murder/horror/etc. that any plurality tends to involve a hidden alter who’s only personality trait is wearing a t-shirt that says “I ❤ killing”.

Are the characters of Storyteller acting/talking ableistly to them? …Sort of, yes. Because if you really think about it, Owen exists SOLELY to subvert the murder trope. Owen is the total opposite of an intimidating murderer: a terrified shy 5 year old.

So it’s a weird situation where, yes, Athena is acting a little bit shitty with how she’s approaching and assuming that their 4th alter might be the killer (and outing them in court, obv). But the setup is there specifically to slam dunk Athena’s (and by extension the player’s) assumptions into the trash. So they kind of… NEED to be a little shitty for the subversion to work? It’s odd.

Finally, one last aspect about Uendo that makes them stand high above other systems: They have an actual theme.

Most systems themes in media are like “They have DID…! Woo…!” But Uendo BREATHES rakugo. Every alter is a fictive of a rakugo character, their character design and animation are KILLER and beautifully convey both their profession and who’s fronting, they co-fronting style is based on rakugo performance, etc.

Uendo feels like a system meant to stand out amongst systems, instead of being unique just because they’re plural. And it’s not really a surprise when you take into account how many characters in Ace Attorney can be interpreted as plural. Perhaps Uendo is so positive because they have quite the plural history backing them up.

(For example, think of how Maya and Mia are designed to be two characters in one body, and just from the first game! That influenced a lot of characters down the line, Uendo included. Uendo is actually a Maya parallel in AA6, from how every chapter relates to or parallels Maya’s spirit channeling. Uendo might be the closest parallel though, they’re even the same age as Maya!)

So, is Uendo good DID rep? How’s “so good they inadvertently make Ace Attorney more obviously plural in hindsight” rep for you!

Thank you so much for this reply, it’s extremely insightful! And I’m glad that, if anything, this series did a pretty good job of representing DID with the scope of it being from… what, 7 years ago? I definitely will be able to use this information to accurately (or at least, as best as I can) portray Uendo and co. properly in a piece of writing (and also to just. Represent characters with DID properly in any form of writing, original or fanfic). Obviously no rep is perfect but I’m happy that at least Uendo and co. were more accurate and realistic than some of the representation provided by other pieces of media. Again, thank you so much!! This is extremely helpful!! :D

🍓Absolutely!!! We’re always happy to lend a helping hand. If you ever wanna see more of our thoughts, there’s also our doc series primarily exploring the Toneido system!

And we’re excited to hear you writing them! Good luck, and thank you for existing! ❤️💚🖤🤍🧡💜💖❣️💙💔💗🫶🏼💟🤎

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