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glittering_yard

The most forced EU agenda of all time will try to sell you Chronicle as a GOAT candidate. Their strongest argument is basically just a trophy count, which is already a weak argument considering thats a team achievement. Lets take a look at the superteam merchant "trophies" then:

b0tnicles "trophies" (none of them are Champions trophies):

  1. Masters Berlin (2021): carried by prime nAts inventing lurking, Gambit was winning games with >Redgar playing Reyna< on Haven, plumbers era, VCT only truly started in 2022

  2. Lockin (2023): he was fighting with Boaster for 4th best player on Fnatic (this never changed), played a GF against a nerfed LOUD team that had 2 rookies and their star players were suffering from serious health problems (aspas was going through physiotherapy and Less was taking serums between maps to not pass out, going to the hospital right after the games). He still almost lost and has zero memorable plays from that tournament. Leo MVP

  3. Masters Tokyo (2023): something(Pacific MVP) was not there, Demon1 (future champs MVP) didnt practice with the team because of VISA issues, LOUD (Americas #1) was dead with internal problems

    • As soon as these asterisks disappeared, FNC did worse than all 3 teams at Champions 2023
      1- EG (Demon1 practiced with the team!)
      2- PRX (something was there!)
      3- LOUD (internal problems almost solved!)
      4- FNC

b0tnicle's performances on the tournament that matters, the World Championship of Valorant, Champions:

  • Champions 2021: lost to -31 Kiles with +31 nAts on his team
  • Champions 2022: didnt qualify
  • Champions 2023: He was the MAIN REASON prime Fnatic 2023 lost Champions 23
    https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf -15 against LOUD (Quarterfinals)
    https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3 -22 against LOUD (Lower Semifinals) Fnatic eliminated.
  • Champions 2024: Eliminated by SEN. Sacy is still more victorious than the "most victorious player" 😂
  • Champions 2025: suffered the biggest support diff of all time against NRG Ethan. Ethan had 3 rookies on his team and carried them on the most important map of the year, 5th map of Champions Grand Finals. b0tnicle was getting carried all game by the only rookie on his team, we struggle to remember a singular round from ghostnicle on that 5 map BO5. Ethan is also more victorious than the "most victorious player" narrative they try to sell you 😂

The "most decorated player" argument falls to pieces as he never won the biggest trophy (got embarassed at the biggest stage every time), and he is just not the most decorated player, thats Ethan and even Sacy was already ahead of Chronicle in 2024.

How can he even be considered in GOAT convos when he never won the World Championship of the game? And 90% of the time, he has ghost performances getting carried by superteams, still chokes and worst of all: hes the main reason his superteam lost (Champions 2023, ruined prime Fnatic Champions run).

Some other bumicle finals appearances:

Masters Toronto: got carried by Alfajer again (better than cumnicle since 2022, thats almost all of VCT) Lost to f0rsaken, the true GOAT flex, who can actually play every agent and MVP'ed the tournament.

  • b0tnicle was also beefing with teenagers and threatening them over a ranked clip a day before getting owned by PRX f0rsaken

EWC: not even a real tournament but he still managed to choke against the biggest chokers of all time

Individual stats: Chronicle has 3(three) teammates of his ABOVE him in international ratings, and somehow they're all worse than Chronicle? Greatest PR of all time

  • Eye test: lets be real, we can remember maybe 3 Chronicle plays in 5 YEARS of VCT, we can also name at least 30 players that are objectively more skilled than him.

  • Cultural impact: zero. Boaster is the face of Fnatic and nAts was the face of Gambit. How am I supposed to buy b0tnicle's narratives when hes never even the main guy of his team, in both performance AND cultural impact

Leo, Alfajer and Derke are the ones suffering the most from this forced b0tnicle agenda. Imagining carrying his ass for 90% of VCT while the superteam merchant gets all the flowers from it to the point he gets compared to >Aspas<...

How can you ever be considered in GOAT convos if you're never the best player of your own team for your entire career? In b0tnicle's case is even worse, he was competing for 4th Fnatic player against his 30 years old british tiktok dancer IGL.

EMEA's MVPs: 2023: Leo, 2024: Wo0t, 2025: kaajak

  • He was never the MVP of his own region, but as you can see again, his super teammates are there to carry him year after year

Now he hopped into another superteam, in hopes of finally winning a real trophy, the Champions trophy. I feel for Derke, he'll have to carry him again and still get rated under b0tnicle.

#2
serro
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50000000th chron bait post

#3
Pomshies
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Alfajer is more deserving of being in the goat debate than Chron is imo

#13
delighted
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bump

#4
poiuu20
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tryhard sub5 chronicle hater and chad no brain low iq chronicle glazer who would win

#5
serro
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chron hater bc at least they HAVE a brain

#8
poiuu20
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ok ok reasonable

#6
king_bob
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chronicle the type of guy to ball up his fists when he gets angry

#7
SiwooHaechok
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How many more of these posts can we get every year. Just have your own personal GOAT who cares what other people even think about it

#9
InYourDreams
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I support this agenda since he is went to Shitality deserving hate

#10
amigo_colega
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tldr?

#14
glittering_yard
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TLDR:

b0tnicle

#11
Marii
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Aspas is clearly better individually but since it’s 3 trophies to 1 it’s an argument but chronicle also had way better teams other than 2022

#17
Abhi5
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Ya but atleast he does'nt need a super team to win 2 trophies and goat nats to carry him for the remaining

#12
mondely
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botnicle going to get exposed in 2026

#15
Congo1
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What are vlr baboons gonna do when the goat Chronicle lifts ANOTHER trophy this year

#16
Abhi5
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Pretty similar argument like zywoo>donk

#18
Good_ping_Bad_aim
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No...?
zywoo's stats are similar to donk in every way even though vitaity faces stronger opposition than donk does.
vitality skipped events like pgl so zywoo doesn't farm bots... donk farms tier 2 events a lot.
vitality played most of there games against falcons, mouz and furia
donk went 1-3 to falcons, 0-5? to vitality, 1-4 to furia, 3-7 to mouz?
donk is given the chance to buy deagle kevlar every single round... even on ecos.

donk is definitely better than zywoo on a mechanical level however, it's not the huge difference like chronicle and aspas.
aspas clears chronicle in every thing...

plus donk, zywoo, monesy, kyousuke have on a general view the same mechanical skill. only reason why stats change is because of the team's focus on individuality vs team play

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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spare us the bs Donk is far more of a generational talent than anyone who came b4 him, the only valid comparison for 24-25 donk's skill and sheer individual carry is s1mple 2018 (who he blazes in terms of stats by a wide margin despite both playing 1v9 half the time), ZywOo is a more complete system player like dev1ce that lifts his team up but that does not make him more skilled or the "better" player in that sense.

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Good_ping_Bad_aim
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"donk is definitely better than zywoo on a mechanical level however, it's not the huge difference like chronicle and aspas"
i think my statement already did clear that donk is the best mechanical talent ever?

the thing is he's not the greatest player of all time, or even the greatest rifler of all time simply because niko exists and has to this day hard countered donk.
niko is like 13 wins and 2 losses to donk.

#19
themaniel
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His new haircut fire though

#20
Goatfnc
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Rent free

Champs 25 1v3 diff against made in bron71L lol

#21
bay_z
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Asspiss clears with 0.50 rating in T0r0nt0

#34
venoh
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2283/valorant-champions-2025
where is chr0n0cl0

#22
imfromchina
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Hi

Chronicle made in brazil

Best regards

#23
hibunbun
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yea why do they put this chro over my GOATmie Moooo

#25
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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nAts invented lurking
That's all I needed to hear
Ty

#26
foythvlr
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on top of that he screamed with teenagers on twitter. zero aura

#27
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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And then beefed with verno for no reason

#28
foythvlr
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he couldve used that time to practice to not be a b0t and not be carried by prime nats leo and alfajer

#29
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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Ye
At least nAts came
What did chron do?
Nothing impactful or significant

#30
Yistyy
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i mean he is a great player, but yeah i agree the goat agenda is forced. if we are just gonna give the most accomplished player the title of goat, it would be ethan instead.

#32
venoh
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he's not the goat

#33
soraorganik
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bro literally was n1 in stats in champs 2024,
also,
for how rare is for a team or a player to win one trophy, chron was the first, the discussion for having more trophy equals being the goat started because of chronicle. Chronicle is so important to the history of Valorant than he singlehandedly changed the standards for a historic player.

Just when you realize that aspas couldn't win a trophy in the years prior y'all started to formulate this other narrative. We doing the same here, don't know why you mad.

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SudokuDude
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that's prob the best name ever. bot + 5 cents

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