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Infinite Jest
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Muffled thumping, light feedback. 'Mmmyellow, my name is Tom and I've read Infinite Jest eight times.'
Gasps, murmurs of sympathy mixed with disapproval. The chair nods. 'Step One is admitting the problem. We're glad you're here.'
'Problem? No no, see, I'm just here to borrow your PA system. New shit has come to light- if you'll turn to page 851 the first-person narrative resumes to answer page 17's "yo man what's your story"' speaking faster as several unexpectedly burly group members rise and advance toward the podium 'and you can tell Hal doesn't drop DMZ because' muffled thumps, sounds of struggle '--a series of people laying in bed! The ceilings always billow, all of them!' grunts, heavy breaths, microphone squeals '--everyone's story is pretty much like your own! They're all heroes of non-action! Re-read endnote twenty-fo--' mic is cut
*
I was going to make a cheeky post about how the best way to enjoy Infinite Jest is to be a white cishet American male born between maybe 1969 and 1989 with one or more diagnosable mental disorders plus personal experience with substance abuse and who remembers when VHS tape rewinders were peak technology. But in fact the best way to enjoy Infinite Jest is right there in the title: just read it over, and over, and over again...
(all that other stuff helps plenty, though)
SEVENTH READTHROUGH REVIEW:
(view spoiler)
Around halfway through endnote 90 (which itself is 4 pages long) Don Gately says: "It makes me feel good you think I'm decent to talk to. That's supposed to be why I'm here. I sure needed to talk, at the start. Can you remember where you were headed before I broke i— interrupted?" (1001)
This is arguably what passes for a joke in Infinite Jest.
See, Gately is a reformed thief who used to burglarize houses to support his drug habit. So when he starts to say "before I broke in" he catches himself and corrects it to "interrupted."
This quote-unquote joke I did not catch until my fifth reading of the monster that is Infinite Jest.
It's the kind of thing that could well polarize your readers.
5 stars out of 5. I'll talk your ear off about this one if given half a chance.
MY FIRST REVIEW, JANUARY 2016:
(view spoiler)
SECOND READTHROUGH REVIEW:
(view spoiler)
FOURTH READTHROUGH REVIEW
(view spoiler)
SIXTH READTHROUGH REVIEW
(view spoiler)
Gasps, murmurs of sympathy mixed with disapproval. The chair nods. 'Step One is admitting the problem. We're glad you're here.'
'Problem? No no, see, I'm just here to borrow your PA system. New shit has come to light- if you'll turn to page 851 the first-person narrative resumes to answer page 17's "yo man what's your story"' speaking faster as several unexpectedly burly group members rise and advance toward the podium 'and you can tell Hal doesn't drop DMZ because' muffled thumps, sounds of struggle '--a series of people laying in bed! The ceilings always billow, all of them!' grunts, heavy breaths, microphone squeals '--everyone's story is pretty much like your own! They're all heroes of non-action! Re-read endnote twenty-fo--' mic is cut
*
I was going to make a cheeky post about how the best way to enjoy Infinite Jest is to be a white cishet American male born between maybe 1969 and 1989 with one or more diagnosable mental disorders plus personal experience with substance abuse and who remembers when VHS tape rewinders were peak technology. But in fact the best way to enjoy Infinite Jest is right there in the title: just read it over, and over, and over again...
(all that other stuff helps plenty, though)
SEVENTH READTHROUGH REVIEW:
(view spoiler)
Around halfway through endnote 90 (which itself is 4 pages long) Don Gately says: "It makes me feel good you think I'm decent to talk to. That's supposed to be why I'm here. I sure needed to talk, at the start. Can you remember where you were headed before I broke i— interrupted?" (1001)
This is arguably what passes for a joke in Infinite Jest.
See, Gately is a reformed thief who used to burglarize houses to support his drug habit. So when he starts to say "before I broke in" he catches himself and corrects it to "interrupted."
This quote-unquote joke I did not catch until my fifth reading of the monster that is Infinite Jest.
It's the kind of thing that could well polarize your readers.
5 stars out of 5. I'll talk your ear off about this one if given half a chance.
MY FIRST REVIEW, JANUARY 2016:
(view spoiler)
SECOND READTHROUGH REVIEW:
(view spoiler)
FOURTH READTHROUGH REVIEW
(view spoiler)
SIXTH READTHROUGH REVIEW
(view spoiler)
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“I am wonderful fun to talk to. I’m a consummate professional. People leave my parlor in states. You are here. It’s conversation-time. Shall we discuss Byzantine erotica?”
― Infinite Jest
― Infinite Jest
Reading Progress
October 28, 2015
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December 26, 2015
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Started Reading
January 12, 2016
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Finished Reading
September 29, 2016
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Started Reading
September 30, 2016
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1.02%
"I think the opening is one of the high points of the book -- it's got more energy, you haven't burned out on the academic language yet, and it builds to a "twist" to hook you in. It is interesting to re-read this, knowing the chronology now.
Side note: as far as opening lines go, this one isn't very memorable. But it does serve as a good example of the overall tone: clinical, detached, and kind of cold."
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Side note: as far as opening lines go, this one isn't very memorable. But it does serve as a good example of the overall tone: clinical, detached, and kind of cold."
September 30, 2016
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1.02%
"When DFW is on he's ON--some of these turns of phrase are brilliantly evocative ("The room's carbonated silence is now hostile.") and dazzlingly intellectual ("It strikes me that EXIT signs would look to a native speaker of Latin like red-lit signs that say HE LEAVES.") No need to mine for gems; DFW has them polished and on display. But the size of the tome means you see so many of them that it's easy to grow weary."
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September 30, 2016
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2.41%
"This is my favorite "flavor" of IJ -- the addict's experience. I find it to be heartfelt and painfully relatable. The panic and anxiety and guilt. The lies Erdedy tells himself: that he's in control, that he's going to stop, that it's just one more time. It is very genuine and very moving."
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September 30, 2016
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3.43%
"Re-reading helps notice careful, subtle interweaving of key details: allusions begin early: to ONAN, to future technology, to the nature of Hal's parents' relationship. Bits and pieces of the whole Incandenza family dynamic, the complementary pairing of drug addiction and athletic training. It really is a rich background, and I'm amazed at how deftly DFW unfolds it rather than just announcing the setting right out."
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September 30, 2016
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5.0%
"I really like the pacing at this stage of the book - the switches between scenes and perspectives are rapid enough to keep the energy level up, and information comes in tantalizing spurts and reveals. I do see some merit to the common complaint that all DFW's characters sound alike, and have gotten through one cringeworthy "Ebonics" voiced sections which seems poorly executed.
50 pages a day, that's the goal!"
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50 pages a day, that's the goal!"
October 3, 2016
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12.42%
"Only 420 characters for these updates, but I've been jotting down notes and have got pages and pages to say... Gonna have to figure out a way to translate those in here somehow. Big takeaway so far is I'm alternating between elated praise for some of what I've read and downright scorn for other passages (mostly those written in phonetic vernacular)."
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October 9, 2016
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27.71%
"The section detailing Orin's rise in football is excellent writing, perhaps even "sublime." Before that, Geoffrey Day's complaints against (and Don Gately's defense of) AA cliches is accurate and true-to-life. Both great examples of this book's appeal."
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October 11, 2016
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28.92%
"A 17-page footnote, for crying out loud? That's long enough to be a chapter in any other book!
Some musings:
-this book is a phenomenal snapshot of the headspace of a recovering addict (or an addict too much in denial to start recovering)
-I did not catch ANY of the references to Hamlet my first read-through
-nor did I catch all the references to heads
-the sheer weight may be a parallel to the tennis kids' arms"
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Some musings:
-this book is a phenomenal snapshot of the headspace of a recovering addict (or an addict too much in denial to start recovering)
-I did not catch ANY of the references to Hamlet my first read-through
-nor did I catch all the references to heads
-the sheer weight may be a parallel to the tennis kids' arms"
October 13, 2016
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31.7%
"I read the Eschaton games, for real this time! Some thoughts:
- it took me two days and two separate reading sessions to complete
- it's one of the more overtly Symbolic passages in the book
- I was pronouncing it "PEMM-you-liss" and I guess it's "PEEM-you-liss"
- this is one of those passages that firmly roots the book in a specific historic timeframe, namely the late-90s and early-2000s"
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- it took me two days and two separate reading sessions to complete
- it's one of the more overtly Symbolic passages in the book
- I was pronouncing it "PEMM-you-liss" and I guess it's "PEEM-you-liss"
- this is one of those passages that firmly roots the book in a specific historic timeframe, namely the late-90s and early-2000s"
October 18, 2016
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41.71%
"OK SO: the writing in Infinite Jest is not necessarily "good" but it is "distinct" and, more to the point, it is "honest." So it is "important" even if it isn't "enjoyable". Get it?"
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October 18, 2016
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41.71%
"OK SO: the writing in Infinite Jest is not necessarily "good" but it is "distinct" and, more to the point, it is "honest." So it is "important" even if it isn't "enjoyable". Get it?"
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October 19, 2016
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47.08%
"There is some very fine writing in these middle chapters, ripe with ingenious descriptions and dramatic tension. But also some weirdly technical jargony stuff. Still, Don Gately is the heart of this book to me."
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October 22, 2016
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52.64%
"Here at the halfway point there are some of the sagging, low-energy sections that I wish had been cut for brevity. Plus there's some noticeable repetition of earlier info, like Stice wears all black. But once we get into new content (Lenz's night walks) the action and energy pick back up."
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October 24, 2016
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58.02%
"I suppose it's contrary to the "antinarrative" style of the book, but my favorite scenes are the action scenes. Gately's heroic fight is very cathartic."
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626
October 25, 2016
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63.21%
"An accomplishment is how DFW captures all the details around us, but somehow they're all staggeringly important. They all contribute to a depth of experience, to the construction of a personality, to a life. I find myself trying it when I'm out in the real world, it's a fascinating tool to be so mindful."
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October 27, 2016
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69.97%
"One thing I love is how sometimes a "clue" will click and you'll flash on a connection, and it's like a mystery detective story that way. One thing that drives me batty is that once you uncover more clues, there seem to be more than one convincing resolution."
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October 28, 2016
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71.73%
"Mario is such a sweetheart! When we follow him around the book shifts into a friendlier, more innocent tone -- there's kids being kids at this sports academy, untroubled by the geopolitical terrorism plotline. Isn't that rather like real life? There's like a thousand things going on at once, and everybody's frame of reference is unique."
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October 29, 2016
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77.57%
"This wraith stuff is kinda out of left field, but if you read it as symbolic of how an author's voice might linger in the mind of a reader, then it seems to offer some new level of artistic substance to the book. Maybe?"
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October 30, 2016
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82.48%
"Can I just say I LOVE Don Gately for resisting temptation. I feel like it's absolutely necessary for the book to have any hopeful note at all, to see him rise above like he does."
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October 31, 2016
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Finished Reading
August, 2017
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Started Reading
November, 2017
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Finished Reading
May 2, 2018
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Started Reading
May 31, 2018
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Finished Reading
June 29, 2019
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Started Reading
August 6, 2019
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Finished Reading
August 24, 2020
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Started Reading
August 26, 2020
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11.0%
"Did the ol' "read section one then read the ending then go back again" strategy this time. Not my idea of fun but it does help illuminate some things."
August 26, 2020
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13.0%
August 27, 2020
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13.0%
"Found two seemingly throwaway lines that suggest resolution to two troublesome longtime questions of mine (why can't Hal communicate, and why was there a tripod in the woods) - as a reluctant superfan this is simultaneously exciting and irritating. Is it a successful book if it takes six close readings to comprehend? Or did DFW just make it too cumbersome?"
August 27, 2020
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19.0%
August 28, 2020
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25.0%
August 30, 2020
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27.0%
August 30, 2020
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28.0%
September 1, 2020
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35.0%
September 2, 2020
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39.0%
September 2, 2020
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41.0%
"For the life of me I still don't understand why Eschaton is so often considered the highlight of this book. I find it intolerably overloaded with bloat. I guess it's like good old M. Pemulis himself says: "this whole thing is real interesting if you're interested and whatnot." (en. 123, p. 1023)"
September 3, 2020
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45.0%
September 3, 2020
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48.0%
September 4, 2020
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50.0%
September 6, 2020
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52.0%
"However much I might idolize Don Gately, in reality I'm probably more of a Charles Tavis. "Total worry total worry, No don't worry no don't worry...""
September 6, 2020
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55.0%
September 8, 2020
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61.0%
September 9, 2020
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63.0%
"I hate Lenz but I love his freestyling word salad malapriapisms, into which a lot of work must have gone to make the word combos funny and still understandable you can just tell."
September 9, 2020
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67.0%
September 10, 2020
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71.0%
"I still think DFW muffed the "objects out of place" bit, but Steeply's scene re: MASH, concluding that the victims of the IJ film are "misplaced", seems to connect the movement of objects at ETA (all "misplaced" too) and the addicts' predicament - their will is "misplaced" and the imagery of Ken Erdedy splayed out between two conflicting impulses, pulled in two directions at once - this seems like the thematic key."
September 11, 2020
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76.0%
"The "hip and cool anhedonia" section about Hal's emptiness on p. 694 raises a question of neuroscience/psychotherapy: Is it better to read something sad in the midst of your own depressive episodes to seek out feelings of Identification and a sense of Not So Alone After All, or is it better to read something positive and uplifting in hopes of reversing the downward mental thrust and counteracting your own negativity?"
September 11, 2020
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81.0%
September 13, 2020
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92.0%
September 14, 2020
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100.0%
"I think I can say that I'm done with this book, for good - I think I've gotten all I can get out of it, for now - I think I'm satisfied and I think I don't need to revisit it anymore. And yeah I know I've said this all before, but this time I really mean it.
Mamas, don't let your babies read Infinite Jest...
Don't let 'em mark pages or read online takes,
Let 'em read something else fer goodness sake's."
Mamas, don't let your babies read Infinite Jest...
Don't let 'em mark pages or read online takes,
Let 'em read something else fer goodness sake's."
September 14, 2020
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Finished Reading
December 23, 2022
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Started Reading
December 24, 2022
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8.0%
December 26, 2022
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15.0%
"Tracking progress in this cinderblock is notoriously hard w/the endnotes, but for the non-uninitiated here's what I did: started in Act 3 at Tiny Ewell's description of 'the winged black shape' after Gately's street fight. Benefits: more time with the addicts, immediate deets on the samizdat, something closer to a traditional this-led-to-that plot, and more clearly articulated thematic messaging. Try it, Jestheads!"
December 26, 2022
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18.0%
"For my money ($0, I got this ebook from the library) the funniest bit in the whole book is the swarthy Men's Mens meeting chanting 'MEET! THOSE! NEEDS!' for recovery."
December 27, 2022
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25.0%
December 29, 2022
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30.0%
December 30, 2022
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32.0%
"My wife, who shares joint library account access, asked in a tone two shades shy of divorce court: 'WHY did you check out Infinite Jest?'"
January 1, 2023
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49.0%
January 3, 2023
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52.0%
"Break's done, back to work and it's the busy season so bye-bye to anything more than 3% a day I guess. Sometimes it's a real drag, having to work to support this reading habit."
January 4, 2023
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54.0%
January 6, 2023
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58.0%
January 7, 2023
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62.0%
January 8, 2023
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64.0%
"Read it in order Acts 3, 1, 2 and watch for Gately as Christ figure
—if you're into that sort of thing."
—if you're into that sort of thing."
January 10, 2023
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66.0%
"Frustrating how repetitive it can be but revelatory if you note which characters are repeating each other and when (i.e. for example Orin despite hating the Moms lifts a bunch from her, Mario is often a near echo of repeating literally what's just been said to him, various descriptions of Phoenix AZ heat from generational Incandenza men, and loads more)
This does make it twice as long as it might otherwise be, tho."
This does make it twice as long as it might otherwise be, tho."
January 12, 2023
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68.0%
January 13, 2023
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71.0%
"I've read this before, I knew it was coming, I thought I was prepped to do it in a single sit-down jam session, and it STILL took me two days to get through the Eschaton scene.
(it's the friggin footnotes - you forget to factor those into the page count and it bloats up sneaky)"
(it's the friggin footnotes - you forget to factor those into the page count and it bloats up sneaky)"
January 15, 2023
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78.0%
January 16, 2023
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83.0%
January 17, 2023
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45.32%
"Whoops, let the ebook library loan lapse on this one too... that's gonna change up the approach for finishing."
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January 19, 2023
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50.79%
"Forty pages one day, eight pages the next. The maddening inconsistency of fitting Wallace in your work week."
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January 20, 2023
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55.7%
"Just 37 pages left til I close the loop! Then I plan to review fn 24 (JOI's filmography) for an obsessive close reading plot-to-meta-plot comparison. And then I'm done.
('I'm done' - yeah right. I've said 'I'm done' with this one before... smart money would bet I'll be back at it again come 2024)"
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('I'm done' - yeah right. I've said 'I'm done' with this one before... smart money would bet I'll be back at it again come 2024)"
January 21, 2023
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100.0%
"(wraps the book in a Hefty sack, bludgeons it against a dumpster, drops a chunk of asphalt on it, lights a gasper and hisses twin jets of smoke)
There.
(where my Randy Lenz fans at?)"
There.
(where my Randy Lenz fans at?)"
January 21, 2023
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Finished Reading
December 25, 2024
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Started Reading
December 25, 2024
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0.0%
"Oh ho ho, a very Merry Christmas to me indeed... got this here vintage 1997 UK alternate cover art edition, a sleeker binding that stands 3.75 cm shorter and weighs in 1.0 kg lighter than your standard '07 bookshelf brick.
Might as well have gotten yrstrly a red-ribboned bottle of Wild Turkey!
GAUDEAMUS IGITUR, happy anniversary, the tide is way out.
🙂 have a nice day 🙂"
Might as well have gotten yrstrly a red-ribboned bottle of Wild Turkey!
GAUDEAMUS IGITUR, happy anniversary, the tide is way out.
🙂 have a nice day 🙂"
January 12, 2025
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42.45%
"Can't belive it took me this long to realize Orin is repeating The Moms's cycle of infidelity and specifically targets mothers with young children to X (the mothers, not the children) because that's what effed him up as a lad.
Missing this is epecially embarrassing because Hal directly accuses him of it in endnote 110. And here I've been calling myself a 'close reader' all these years..."
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Missing this is epecially embarrassing because Hal directly accuses him of it in endnote 110. And here I've been calling myself a 'close reader' all these years..."
January 19, 2025
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57.83%
"I read somewhere that Lucien Antitois' death and his ghost's 'bell-clear and nearly maternal alarmed call-to-arms in all the world's well-known tongues' is the exact midpoint of the book. It isn't true, but man it'd be cool if it was!"
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January 25, 2025
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71.18%
"I waited three days for a stretch of uninterrupted time to read the 10 page tale of Steeply's dad's TV-addicted-and-M*A*S*H-obsessed descent into madness because it's my favorite part and I wanted to savor it this time, so here I am at 5am before the kids wake, hunched furtively and scribbling little notes in the margins, but I'm sure MY obsession is different, mine is healthy and not at all concerning no sir."
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February 1, 2025
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Finished Reading
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Thanks! I second that emotion--sometimes I like to revisit this page and read what the most recent reviewers have to say. The book is a doozy, to put it mildly, and of course bookworms like Goodread-ers can't help but spill a lot of ink talking about it, whether they're praising or damning it. I think I was able to get away with skipping the footnotes thanks to a resource that original readers didn't have: our culture's instant access to the now lightning-fast Internet. I kept popping onto websites like Infinite Summer and The Howling Fantods which offer cleaner summaries of the backstory than the footnotes did. I can't imagine trying to do a close reading of this text back when dial-up was the only option!I'm building up towards a second reading, and when I feel ready I plan to tackle it in tandem with a reader's guide like Elegant Complexity.
Steve wrote: "More evidence of something I noted a while ago: IJ reviews on Goodreads are among the best in existence. You said it all so well! And I guess it's a tribute to DFW and the book that so many thought..."
Yea, I was a devoted follower of Infinite Summer myself. I should probably check out Elegant Complexity someday, too, though I'm not sure I'll ever be ready for a second go at this one.
Tom, thanks for the friendship on Goodreads this year. It's been a pleasure. Would love any feedback on my DFW tribute:www.considertheredsox.com
Just read your appended thoughts on this, Tom. That was quite an impressive exegesis! You've obviously thought long and hard about the book and the many issues it raises. And none of us can get past Wallace himself as the context for it all. I consider myself a fellow proselytizer, even if a more amateurish one. Your point about the "for me" criterion is good for me to keep in mind, too. For me, this is one of the best reviews of all time.
Steve wrote: "I consider myself a fellow proselytizer, even if a more amateurish one."Q: How do you know someone has read Infinite Jest?
A: Don't worry, they'll tell you. :)
Thank you for your kind words. I don't know of any book that is such a polarizing conversation piece as IJ. Love it or hate it, once you've put in the work to finish it you'll end up talking about it. There's no denying Wallace wrote it with ardent, fervent purpose, like he really wanted it to become a topic of conversation. It's probably the most self-conscious book I've read, and his hard work shows more here than you generally see from other writers, who strive to be so polished that the work seems effortless.
That self-consciousness you mentioned was evident in that Lipskey book you reviewed, too. In other Wallace interviews you can see online, it even comes across as an insecurity, or affected at the very least. Even so, he was always fascinating to me.
Tom, your review(s!) resonated with me in many good and one terrifying way. I'm on my second reading and I can't help wondering if you (after four readings) aren't like one of Don Gately's crocodiles - wise and experienced, sure, but maybe also a terrible harbinger of my future as an IJ addict! But, truly, I can identify with your feelings about this book. For me, there is so much truth here, made richer by the fact that the truths aren't served up on a silver platter. Thanks for the reviews!
John wrote: "Tom, your review(s!) resonated with me in many good and one terrifying way. I'm on my second reading and I can't help wondering if you (after four readings) aren't like one of Don Gately's crocodil..."Art imitates life, or sometimes it's the other way around. I'm deeply impressed with how DFW manifested his subject matter in a way that makes you feel you're experiencing it rather than reading about it.
Tom. Wonderful review(s). It seems The Entertainment has it’s claws in you. Should we send someone to pull IJ from your hands before you become a drooling shell? ;) I know that I’ve been daydreaming about reading IJ again. In fact, I actually closed the book after read #1 and then opened it to begin anew within minutes! I had to stop myself. Anyway, even though I’ve written a modest length review of my own, I can probably summarize it more succinctly here. IJ is the one book that I love so much that I don’t even have a reaction to people who hate it. No need to discuss. Not wondering why. A one star rating for IJ is like a fart in the wind to me. Thanks for your insights.
Mark wrote: "Tom. Wonderful review(s). It seems The Entertainment has it’s claws in you. Should we send someone to pull IJ from your hands before you become a drooling shell? ;) "Good luck, it's got a hold of me for sure! Besides, like any addict I deny there's a problem and say I've totally got this under control. Everybody has to find their own bottom before they Come In, and we can't forget the stages: fun with substance, gradually less fun leading to very little fun, and eventually no fun at all.
Really, though, the depiction of addiction and recovery (and AA/Recovery culture) are so spot-on that IJ has at times helped me out more than the official Big Book. I wouldn't quit it, even if I could.
Great reviews Tom. I am going through a similar experience to after my first reading of Infinite Jest. I am looking forward to reading The Pale King next and see where that takes me. I tend to agree with all your comments on the book after the first reading. Rereading a great author is always rewarding but at present I will try his other works first. Thanks again for your excellent review.
George wrote: "Great reviews Tom. I am going through a similar experience to after my first reading of Infinite Jest. I am looking forward to reading The Pale King next and see where that takes me. I tend to agre..."Thanks! More than any other I've experienced, IJ rewards re-readings—demands them, even. I do like DFW's writing overall but nothing else he's done has resonated with me as much as IJ. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on The Pale King. I had mixed feelings.
"Because for such an important message as how difficult it is to truly communicate and how valuable empathy is in human relations, you can't display such wanton ignorance and expect to get through to people."A nicely said, concise critique of the racist/homophobic elements of the book. Good to know it's possible to read it without excusing those or demonizing them, but I agree--it likely would have been written differently now.
Carrie wrote: "A nicely said, concise critique of the racist/homophobic elements of the book. Good to know it's possible to read it without excusing those or demonizing them, but I agree--it likely would have been written differently now."Indeed, I have a hard time justifying some aspects of the work but the parts that resonate with me are so strong that I'm willing to overlook what I don't appreciate.
Tom wrote: "Simon wrote: "5 times impressive"You and I might say impressive. My wife says "obsessive.""
That too, haha!
I think author Zadie Smith has a good insight here..."the newspaper review was never going to be an easy fit for Wallace. He can’t be read and understood and enjoyed at that speed any more than I can get the hang of the Goldberg Variations over a weekend. His reader needs to think of herself as a musician, spreading the sheet music— the gift of the work— over the music stand, electing to play. First there is practice, then competency at the instrument, then spending time with the sheet music, then playing it over and over....To appreciate Wallace, you need to really read him— and then you need to reread him."
Michael wrote: "I think author Zadie Smith has a good insight here..."To appreciate Wallace, you need to really read him— and then you need to reread him."
I agree wholeheartedly, and especially for IJ - part of the point is the density, and the way he hides revelations in tiny bits and pieces buried within verbose paragraphs that seem to drift farther and farther from the plot... It's impressive!
Great review(s). I've read IJ and was changed for it, at least as a writer if not more so. I'm eager to reread it. I think any talk of perfection when it comes to maximalist novels is beside the point, futile even. I don't read such works for their perfection but for their immersion, to see the writer wrestle with his or her imagination, and O the mental/linguistic fireworks...You mentioned you watched movies based on IJ. Could you tell me what those were beside The End of the Tour?
George Silas wrote: "You mentioned you watched movies based on IJ..."That's the big one I was talking about. Since then I've watched a lot of DFW's interviews, Charlie Rose and such, and panels from various conventions. Here's a good example, speaks to a little bit to the controversy over IJ and DFW in these modern times: https://youtu.be/JqN52yKI4pg
"I don't read such works for their perfection but for their immersion..."
Last read-through I focused on plot. This time around I'm focusing on tone and emotional response, and there is still plenty to delve into!
Good review. I also loved IJ, though I've read it only once. I was blown away by its depth, complexity, and perhaps, most of all, the raw earnestness that shines through the pomo machinations.
Marcus wrote: "I'm almost 10000% sure Infinite Jest was influenced by Cronenberg's 1983 film 'Videodrome'. I watched it at the same time I was reading IJ and I found the similarities very interesting (at least th..."I watched Videodrome in college and was extremely creeped out! It's definitely got a lot in common thematically, though I'd say the movie's much more sinister and unsettling. I can't handle Cronenberg.
Robert wrote: "Good review. I also loved IJ, though I've read it only once. I was blown away by its depth, complexity, and perhaps, most of all, the raw earnestness that shines through the pomo machinations."Thanks! Maybe it's time for a re-read... :) The book really does open up new depths with repetition.
Tom wrote: "George Silas wrote: "You mentioned you watched movies based on IJ..."That's the big one I was talking about. Since then I've watched a lot of DFW's interviews, Charlie Rose and such, and panels f..."
Thanks for the link, Tom. I'll check it out!
The mixed reviews you link make for an amusing selection. I agree with Zadie Smith:
"the newspaper review was never going to be an easy fit for Wallace. He can’t be read and understood and enjoyed at that speed any more than I can get the hang of the Goldberg Variations over a weekend. His reader needs to think of herself as a musician, spreading the sheet music— the gift of the work— over the music stand, electing to play. First there is practice, then competency at the instrument, then spending time with the sheet music, then playing it over and over....To appreciate Wallace, you need to really read him— and then you need to reread him."
I have read it 3x, but I am by no means a fanatical fanboy. The first time through, I was just trying to get my bearings. The second time, I really appreciated what DFW was trying to do. The last time, the editor in me saw riffs where he was just showing off and could have been cut.
Michael wrote: "The mixed reviews you link make for an amusing selection."Yes, the book's reputation is such that it gets a lot of attention from a lot of different camps. I think a lot of the criticism is valid, but in the end I choose to treasure the highlights and sweep the negatives under the rug.
I read Michiko Kakutani's NYT reviews for years but, in this case, I would say Zadie Smith speaks to the shallowness of Kakutani's IJ review. Some books take extra effort, as you know.
Lorraine wrote: "Sounds very intriguing! Great review, Tom!"Thank you! eBook might be the way to go with this title - not only does it fit thematically, it makes the big words real easy to look up and it's much more portable that way. I mean, I do prefer physical books but around week 4 I had to go get my first chiropractic adjustment. Not saying there's a direct cause and effect there, but it is suspicious...
Great review. :)And five freaking times?! Amazing.
Your review encourages me to read it again and my brain is not exactly happy with this inclination. :D
Until the last 100 pages i was all ready to declare it my new fav book etc, but I ultimately bumped it down to "just another 5" due to the ending. But the fact is, similar to what you said, much of this book has lingered in my consciousness months later.. Possibly even changed the way I think, to some extent.
Adarsh wrote: "Great review. :)And five freaking times?! Amazing.
Your review encourages me to read it again and my brain is not exactly happy with this inclination. :D"
I think one reread is essential, but as to multiples it becomes a matter of taste. I know I get a lot out of it, myself.
Indran wrote: "But the fact is, similar to what you said, much of this book has lingered in my consciousness months later.. Possibly even changed the way I think, to some extent I definitely can identity a "pre-Jest" and "post-Jest" way of life. Transformative, for some.
"Don't mind me, just editing some typos here as I listen to a podcast called "I Hate Infinite Jest"..."It's mind-blowing how much effort people put into things they hate. I'm taking the summer for a second read, and it's as brilliant as I remembered. Just jaw-droppingly smart sometimes, and still really accessible for as clever as it is. Are you on Discord? There's a Wallace fan server that's popped up. Kind of quiet, but good discussion when it gets going.
Rachel wrote: "I am so glad that I am not the only one being “haunted” by this book! 😂"Not by a long shot!
Carrie (brightbeautifulthings) wrote: "It's mind-blowing how much effort people put into things they hate. I'm taking the summer for a second read, and it's as brilliant as I remembered. Just jaw-droppingly smart sometimes, and still really accessible for as clever as it is. Are you on Discord? There's a Wallace fan server that's popped up. Kind of quiet, but good discussion when it gets going."
What's cool is the way actively hating this book helps to articulate what you do enjoy about reading, so even time spent anti-InfiniteJest is time spent developing as a reader.
The podcast isn't great (or even all that good - it's very unpolished) but it's a current commentary from a new reader, which I find interesting enough to half-listen to while I do stuff around the house. I actually was on discord for an Infinite Summer group re-read in 2019, but it fizzled out and I finished it solo. I do check the IJ subreddit pretty often, though. I think there's been a decrease in "gatekeeping" around this book over the years.
I've had it on the To Read list for a long time but have yet to tackle it. Pretty epic where length is considered, yes?
Jonathan wrote: "I've had it on the To Read list for a long time but have yet to tackle it. Pretty epic where length is considered, yes?"Yes, long and stubbornly difficult to parse on purpose. But I think the length is defensible, and becomes part of the point.
Tom wrote: "Adarsh wrote: "Great review. :)And five freaking times?! Amazing.
Your review encourages me to read it again and my brain is not exactly happy with this inclination. :D"
I think one reread is ess..."
Agreed. Your evolving review very aptly highlights the different experiences and reactions that this book has to offer.
The signal to noise ratio is also pretty high in this book. One of the very first impulsive reaction that this book left me with was how easily it distracts your attention with its haphazardness. There are couple of parts where you think you can glimpse the underlying beauty of idea, language and truth combined in flashes. And there are other difficult parts (to say the least) where it just feels lack of coherence and focus.
As if frames of two completely different movies are superimposed on each other - one nearly randomly and excruciatingly perceptive, the other totally profound and empathetic.
After reading your review, I am definitely aiming for a reread sometime in the near future. :)
Adarsh wrote: "After reading your review, I am definitely aiming for a reread sometime in the near future. :)..."It's a "gift" that keeps on giving!
Your thoughts about signal to noise and competing frames are well-said. Wallace had such a talent for detail, and he really lets it run loose here. That's both a virtue and a vice, which furthers his themes. It's been my experience that the book reveals new insights when different aspects/characters are followed, which is only possible with multiple readings.
It seems to me to recreate a lot of my own experiences, and that's where I find the value.
Jen wrote: "This is great stuff, Tom. Following the evolution of your thoughts through subsequent readings, really cool."Thanks! Here's hoping those thoughts prove useful to somebody. Right now they're taking up a lot of brain space.
Kudos brother. Lovely reviews, thoughtful insight into IJ, and i enjoy your pure passion for it. I'm sure I'll reread it too. Maybe not 5 times...
Robert wrote: "Kudos brother. Lovely reviews, thoughtful insight into IJ, and i enjoy your pure passion for it. "Thank you! It's good to have a platform like this, since everyone I know in real life is pretty sick of hearing me talk about this title.
"I'm sure I'll reread it too. Maybe not 5 times..."
That's what I said too! Finished it once and said, well there's no way I'm going to bother reading this all again. And yet here I am, trying to stave off yet another re-read this summer...






I would never suggest rereading this behemoth, but one thing I did notice was that the footnotes were occasionally kind of important for driving the narrative and filling in important details towards the end. You might consider skimming a few of the longer ones in the latter pages to see if they add to your appreciation. As it is, though, you already have plenty of that.