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Pachinko by Min Jin Lee
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Just having finished this behemoth in the last hour, I want to put a disclaimer first. That reading this over a longer period of time than I would usually read a book, even of this length, probably made me MORE analytic than for my usual review. Or reaction. More critical. Because I truly wanted to give it a higher star value. I really did! But I cannot. So don't be scared away from reading it, because I am specific or amused for some of the tangents she took. Take it with a grain of salt. Especially if you are not the kind of reader that is bothered by vastly changing style of approach within one book. I am!

The first third of this book is nearly a 5 star perfection for character development, place reality, era feel, and boding wars of surround. In cultural mix and clash, in politico straining for the working day existence in Korea (Busan) under Japanese governmental domination.

Isak is a saint. His landlady and Sunja- they are sublime and so real. You know them as you have known a Scarlet O'Hara or a Dorothy in Kansas. I'll remember them. And those two married couples and their ultimate striving, movements and eventual Osaka, Japan bound lives. Leaving Korea and the death sentence that Christian belief insured. The world at war a mere background, but closer wars and constant work their every breath.

And then the second third of the book. The boys' stories. Hansu, yes- but mainly the boys' years of their growing up in Osaka. The Japanese defeat years within Japan with their Korean ethnicity. This is clear and yet convoluted. Not linear and direct as the first part. But yet, it is 4 star in the friends of each, the characters of mentoring, the parents and the Aunties' core purposes. The differences of languages and custom and most of all- for association and work. It's a good wider tale, and well done, kept my interest. Which gives out eventually in this parsing for a wider look at Osaka and the upcoming Pachinko connections for family support. Just a game in a parlor! But in doing so, the epic length and detail for this family is becoming broader, although shallower- much like a river near its delta- it's becoming defused and silt laden. The pure core of clearness for the first Korean situation is getting more progressively lost.

And then the last third of the book from the late 1960's onward to its conclusion! This is barely a 2.5 star read. It jumps. Relationship and context become abrupt. Many tangent issues of intersect to the story become sketchy. Is this new character or that one introduced to merely become an example for a group label or thesis issue? We find none of the individual character self-realizations or deep core connection coming from text connotation or the visuals (as went so beautifully within the first third of the book). But instead any clarity, if any, is coming from conversations of the bemoaning failure or nasty hanger on. Dialog becomes harsh. Style is jagged and changes abruptly as well. Description quickly becoming 10 pages of angst or venting conversation for a character who is then "dealt out" of the context or continuation of this plotting within a mere 3 lines somewhere in the next chapter? Huh!

Whatever was the style causation for this last third of the book- it was a mistake. She had too much to say? The grandchildren's stories should have been a separate book. The great-grandson's with the ultimate Phoebe dichotomy QUESTION of vast location decision for identity of placement- the crux pivot. This decision on where to live FOR that identity of the individual- quite another whole book. That last would have made a great story if she would have followed the style of nuance and purity for those first 2 couples who lived within Busan and knew who they were. That one could have potential to be superb. Not added within 3 paragraphs, or as an afterthought for a partial closure.

So- how do you judge this book? Not in 40 words, that's for sure.

I enjoyed the first half much more than the last. But I did read every word and read this slowly. There was an absolute intrigue for me- to answer a question "to or for" myself about how these people would "self-describe". Are they Korean? Are they Japanese. They hold passports from South Korea, even those who have never been there. And getting Japanese citizenship? Well, you decide if that is a realistic possibility. Japanese want to be "the same" at their very cores- difference can and does equate to unmannerly and "wrong".

As much as I did enjoy the factual minutia of these times and places, and the mix of modes and fads displayed by those who lived them. I also became quite aware that this essentially, in the last 50 or 60 pages of the book- holds a very anti-Japanese animus. Which became more and more openly revealed. I would say it is a prejudice, just as equal to the one the Japanese held for Noa.

So I can only give it 3 stars. It's a tremendous effort. Places and characters here are often superbly detailed. Min Jin Lee just bit off far more than she could chew, IMHO. Trying to get every victim or condition "label" issued for a human being since the middle of the last century into some action or subplot was also not a wise move.
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Reading Progress

February 14, 2017 – Started Reading
February 14, 2017 – Shelved
February 16, 2017 –
page 57
11.63% "This is family epic in an era and place pivotal to Far East history. Clear language and lines that flow- I am going to like this one. Also am intrigued to see this view within Korea at this time. Japan on the offensive with brutal results of hierarchy."
February 20, 2017 –
page 176
35.92% "The detail refining in this is amazing. I feel like I am in Osaka in the mid-1930's and know this family. Striving to set up the kimchi supply for the client's restaurants- and trying to help Isak's boys. Can they get him out of prison? Will the connection to his church and Christianity let them remain at all? Excellent saga and am taking this one very slowly. Maybe 50 pages per day. Koreans, Chinese in this Japan!"
February 25, 2017 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Diane S ☔ (new) - added it

Diane S ☔ Excellent review and one I had already decided to skip. Just can't find the time to fit it in.


Jeanette Absolutely you have made the right decision. Because this is definitely one of those books that I'm glad I read, but if it had been 1/2 finished in the years that I worked most waking hours? Well, I doubt I would have completed it then because of how "the voice" and onus changed. Interesting survey of that Japanese legal system and the Korean minority, and those years of the last century-BUT! Lots of buts.


message 3: by Paula (new)

Paula K Loved reading your review, Jeanette, Too bad it went down hill.


Jeanette Thanks, Paula. The first half of this one is awesome enough to file for memory. Every immigrant has difficulty assimilating in any age, IMHO. To Japan would probably be one of the more difficult. There was just too much at the bottom of the hill- to continue this novel into the 3rd generation. It should have been a series.


Gina Yes, agree 100%. So loved the first half and then found it a bit wandering and shallow for the second half.


Tracy Excellent review. I also loved the first half much more. Second half included some visuals I didn't necessarily need. Her culture pictures and character developments were awesome.


message 7: by Jeanette (last edited Mar 10, 2017 05:09AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette Yes. If she writes fiction in the future, I do hope she narrows her scale and does not attempt centuries length epics, nor autobiographical- but the particular time frames and situations of cultural core you post about, Tracy. She knows this territory and does this slant well. She should leave the "problem" victim dysfunction or modern cause type of personal condition for example or two in a separate plot line out of it. As soon as she does this and tries to go wide and P.C. she cuts off all her best writing qualities at the knees. It's a perfect example of write about what you know about. Not what is "current" hype.


Sadhana C I couldn't place why I didn't feel this was a *great* book, but you've nailed it!


Jeanette Thanks, Sadhana. It is one I remember for those 2 married couples going to Japan and how they worked and lived. That part was superb.


Elizabeth Almost my thoughts exactly


message 11: by Jeanette (last edited Jun 20, 2017 05:43AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette Months later, I still do remember those two couples from this book. I read so many excellent characters in masses now, it seems, that the point of remembering so much does really say something about her ability to capture core. The other book that does nearly the same big oops as this one is Tea Girl of Hummingbird Lane. Also too many generations to compel an interest in the modern portion well because the first were so much deeper cut to detail and place.

I do hope this particular author decides to go shorter and focus on what she knows for the specific smaller cultural conflicts or changes.

Thanks, Elizabeth. At times I do not commit to the longer reaction because the changes in one book are less subtle, but this one had such glaring style "eyes" alteration in the prose style- I wanted my GR friends to vet it for its length, if that's what they would prefer. They help me more than I can express in these last two years to vet out some reads when I have piles in the TBR list.


Kathidfsmc Totally agree with your review. In a nutshell I found this book 200 pages too long, not because I shy away from lengthy reads but because unfortunately this fabulous 1/2 read became very tedious! Still a good book but I agree with how you got to three stars.


message 13: by Caryn (new)

Caryn Yacowitz MY feelings, too. Thank you for a solid, honest review. Caryn


Jeanette You are very welcome, Caryn.


Nazeerah Your review is excellent. I really felt like I should have loved it but couldn't figure out why. You summed it up perfectly!


Jeanette Thanks, Nazeerah. I do remember the original two couples quite well. And nearly nothing of the rest of the book.


message 17: by Susu (new) - added it

Susu Sigh. I’ve owned this one for awhile, but have never tackled it because I kept waiting for a sufficient stretch of time without numerous days of interruptions. So of course, it never happened.
With your rating/ review ( despite your disclaimer), it will take a lot of determination to take on this on.


Jeanette The first half is worth the read, Susu. It's really quite a slog for all the modern portion, which is way too many pages. If you own it, I would just read the first half. When it twists to the sons you may want to continue. Regardless, you can always come back to the second half when you are desperate. LOL!


message 19: by Sheila (new) - added it

Sheila Hill I too enjoyed the first part of the book and was less enamoured of the second part. This review sums it up nicely....thanks for clarifying it for us.


Jeanette You are welcome. I still remember those first 2 couples. She did their life of changing location well.


message 21: by Jack (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jack Great review! Totally agree! Maybe she can learn from Isabel Allende who tried to encompass too many generations in House of Spirits and then wrote (what I consider a better read) The Japanese Lover.


Jeanette Thanks, Jack. There are a few others making that identical mistake too. Tea Girl from Hummingbird Lane is one of them.


message 23: by Jack (new) - rated it 2 stars

Jack I am surprised her publisher didn’t try to get her to limit the scope


message 24: by Beth (new) - rated it 5 stars

Beth James Thank you for your review, you absolutely nailed it. I still gave it 5 stars because overall I loved it, but the last 1/4 was so disjointed and I wasn't as connected to the characters. Suddenly we have a female character getting a lot of attention when she isn't even technically related to the family, and a lot of crass sexual dialogue (I am NOT a prude; just in comparison to the rest of the book, it seemed weirdly out of place.) The end felt like a lot of little grandiose speeches and quick wrap-up, whereas I wanted a more pronounced finish for the characters with whom we spent the majority of the novel.


Jeanette Yes, Beth. I just saw this comment now. It got absolutely quirky during the last 100 pages- just as you describe.


message 26: by Richard (last edited Mar 04, 2018 07:14AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Richard Rather than write my own review I endorse this one as a pretty accurate portrayal of my impressions. I found the last third quite unsatisfying largely because of the poor character development. I don't think it was 'anti-Japanese' as much as an unusually honest depiction of just how poorly the Japanese people and government treat Koreans whom have lived there for 3-4 generations. Having lived there and been intimately involved with the country for 40+ years I would say it is highly ethnocentric, even prejudiced, against 'others,' especially other Asians.


Kelly This is the most perfect review of the book. It was highly rated and for the first half, I could see why. I am embarrassingly ignorant of the history and I felt I learned a lot through the characters in those first pages. Then then book started time traveling several years each chapter and the new characters didn’t have a lot of time to make themselves well known. I was confused by the amount of time spent on Hani, who seemed a strange accessory to the main characters.

Anyway, thanks for saying it better than I could!


Richard Thanks, Kelly.

The relationship between Japan and Korea which goes back a few hundred years is a complex one. The Koreans have an expression: 'Korea is a shrimp caught between two whales.' ie, Japan and China.
It has its own long, illustrious cultural history but always in the context of its neighbors.


message 29: by Jeanette (last edited Apr 14, 2018 06:16AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette I also disagree about that animus held here in the context of this author's "eyes". At various points it plies the major faults of the Japanese culture, IMHO. It's beyond just ethnocentric context or acted upon prejudice. Just look at the language context for "others" and also the citizenship requirements for these characters. Holding Korean citizenship to further generations and yet never being at any point within Korea? Not even on a visit.

But yes, you are right about Korea in the context of its mighty neighbors. So much history of conflict and conquest.


message 30: by Jeanette (last edited Mar 04, 2018 07:47AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette And thank you, Kelly and Richard.


Sharon Your review was spot on! The first 2/3 of the book was so enjoyable and I wanted to recommend it to others. Now I would recommend it with the caveat that the last third is a departure from otherwise stellar writing and story development. I wonder sometimes if authors with a great story just can’t quite figure out how to finish well. I have seen this in many other books. My book club jokes that maybe they just get tired.


message 32: by Jeanette (last edited Apr 20, 2018 07:05AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette Thanks, Sharon. Yes, I agree. They have too much to say yet and do NOT know how to end it. They would be much better to make them trilogy or duo. The tones too, usually do not fit when the ending is so botched. As this one was.

It is particularly common to happen in these family sagas, I've observed. They don't know where to end or how to make the tone a whole. And in the longer series too- it's happening that they go off the boards completely into another genre. As if they were "tired" of the first one. That's happening over and over in the long "mystery" location or town "groups" novels.

Disappointing to the readers. I guess it's hard to see when your own progressions has rather jumped the shark? That's what editors are for I thought.


Grace Rowe This is so true. It got more convoluted and less soluble as it went on.


message 34: by Jeanette (last edited May 07, 2018 04:25PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette Hope this author sticks to what she knows and stays much more narrowly focused.


message 35: by Ej (new) - added it

Ej I totally agree with you. Pachinko started out great with engaging characters and straightforward yet beautiful writing. The second half lost the focus and the steam and it fizzled out.


Richard I agree with Jeannette's comment about an editor being needed to rein in the author when he/she goes astray as this one did in the last one third of the book. Either that or write a sequel about the younger generation's adaptation to life in Japan.


Jeanette Editors aren't doing the jobs that they used to do, IMHO. I'm old enough to remember some excellent editing. Most of the moderns don't look like they ever had any editing parsing at all.


Richard I think that is especially true with more successful authors. Maybe editors are reluctant to upset a writer with suggestions that they cut out some of what they gave written? Eg.McCullough has written some great history books but some of them are too long. It becomes a case of TMI and a loss of focus.


Jeanette Yes!


Olivia Alter Yep! I'm at exactly 70% right now and for the last few chapters have been wondering if I should carry on at all - if I do it's because learning about the history has been so eye opening


Seattle Al I agree completely with your progression from 5 stars to 2.5


Jeanette When it dropped off, it went down like a lead sled, Seattle. So true.


Richard Yes, it was unfortunate to see how the book drifted away from its initial excellence. Sigh....if only the author had ended it about 2/3 of the way through!


Jeanette "Less is more" just doesn't happen in home decorating. That's for sure.


Gael  Lynch I felt the same way, and always hate to go negative on an author’s work—especially a saga such as this one! I know the immense task it is to put together any type of story, but this one definitely overreaches from my point of view. The first third of the book is closer knit with a deeper dive into the hearts and minds of the characters. The settings are beautifully depicted. But as the book evolves, it becomes more one dimensional. I couldn’t find myself empathizing on the same level, and I really just wanted to be done with the book, and kind of regretted recommending it to my friends as I’d done early on in my reading. The struggle was real, I’m glad I’ve experienced it through Sunja’s POV, but less is definitely more in any book.


message 46: by Jeanette (last edited Jul 07, 2018 12:11PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette Maybe someone will get the advice across, possibly a savvy editor?

But she will be able to develop her best writing only if she learns to curtail, and stay within focus to full development (as she did with the first 2 couples here). Epics also are not fodder for most authors. Certainly not her forte at all.


Seattle Al I found the same decline in The Goldfinch, All the Light We Cannot See, Bridge of Sighs, and Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan novels. Strong writers starting with a strong and absorbing story that meanders its way to the uninteresting, trivial, and sometimes downright silly.


Jeanette Yes, and in these last 2 or 3 years it's almost endemic.

Tea Girl of Hummingbird Lane was another one. That should have been halved. It got entirely and all the way to your "downright silly"- not even on a sometimes basis.

And I've noticed in the last 10 years, better starts. Better beginnings and better book design (hard editions, the covers have become to the level of artwork in a few cases)- and yet tangent roving middles which become redundant or lag, and then the end that never ends. Or the end like this one that just plain "doesn't belong" to the same volume, story.


message 49: by Jeanette (last edited Jul 07, 2018 12:21PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Jeanette But I do disagree a bit with the Ferrante. You must be young, Seattle?

She did the indifference of age and advancing oldest ages with a diminishing physical life of "former dynamo personality) pretty well from my experience.


Seattle Al I wish I was young (alas. mid-60s). In the later volumes, the narrator became too narcissistic for my tastes. But no two people react to literature identically--I'm happy with just some overlap in tastes.


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