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My Name is Red
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I am in two minds about this book.
Obviously, it is an important work. It showcases the miniaturist tradition of the Islamic world, and uses the cloistered world of miniaturists to explore the difference in philosophies between the East and the West. It was all the more interesting to me because I have been fascinated by this difference ever since I began viewing paintings with serious interest. In the East, "perspective" does not exist: the painting flows seamlessy over space and time whereas in the West (especially since the Renaissance) the painting is the reproduction of a particular moment in time (we are not talking of abstractions here). The miniaturist paints the world as God sees it: he does not sign the painting, nor does he have an individual style, because he is unimportant. He continues painting (in fact, he paints better!) after he inevitably goes blind. The Frankish painters, in contrast, paint the world as we see it, which is blasphemy according to some of the miniaturists.
I was captivated by the sweep of the book as well as the way it was presented: short chapters, each from the viewpoint of a different character, as though we were looking at a book of miniatures which tells a different story on each page. Moreover, it is a murder mystery in which the victims as well as the murderer directly speak to the reader! It bears a certain resemblance to "The Name of the Rose" in this regard, although Eco's book is much more powerful according to me.
Coming to the minuses: the writing is cumbersome and a task to wade through. I do not know if this is a problem with Pamuk's writing or the translation. The characters are flat: the protagonist (Black) is too weak and cowardly: the heroine (if we can call her that!) too self-centred and manipulative. Maybe the author intended them to be like that, but it does lose reader interest.
I was also rather put off by the amount of lust bubbling on each page. Apart from normal sex (including homosexuality), there is incest, paedophilia, bestiality, fetishism... simmering just beneath the surface. Young boys are regularly presented as objects of lust. Men kiss each other passionately, even when one is about to kill the other! I have heard that Turkey was the centre of "deviant" sexual practices during Ottoman times, so maybe it is a true picture, but it did not vibe with me.
(Edit to add: a person has commented that this paragraph is likely to give the impression that I am attacking LGBTQ people, and on reading it again, I find that there is some substance to the accusation. So I have edited it suitably. The whole idea of putting "deviant" in quotes was to highlight the dubiousness of the label. However, it was the lust that disturbed me and not the sexual preference. Maybe it is my personal problem, that is why I have noted it down subjectively.)
So...adding the negatives and positives, I will go for three stars.
Obviously, it is an important work. It showcases the miniaturist tradition of the Islamic world, and uses the cloistered world of miniaturists to explore the difference in philosophies between the East and the West. It was all the more interesting to me because I have been fascinated by this difference ever since I began viewing paintings with serious interest. In the East, "perspective" does not exist: the painting flows seamlessy over space and time whereas in the West (especially since the Renaissance) the painting is the reproduction of a particular moment in time (we are not talking of abstractions here). The miniaturist paints the world as God sees it: he does not sign the painting, nor does he have an individual style, because he is unimportant. He continues painting (in fact, he paints better!) after he inevitably goes blind. The Frankish painters, in contrast, paint the world as we see it, which is blasphemy according to some of the miniaturists.
I was captivated by the sweep of the book as well as the way it was presented: short chapters, each from the viewpoint of a different character, as though we were looking at a book of miniatures which tells a different story on each page. Moreover, it is a murder mystery in which the victims as well as the murderer directly speak to the reader! It bears a certain resemblance to "The Name of the Rose" in this regard, although Eco's book is much more powerful according to me.
Coming to the minuses: the writing is cumbersome and a task to wade through. I do not know if this is a problem with Pamuk's writing or the translation. The characters are flat: the protagonist (Black) is too weak and cowardly: the heroine (if we can call her that!) too self-centred and manipulative. Maybe the author intended them to be like that, but it does lose reader interest.
I was also rather put off by the amount of lust bubbling on each page. Apart from normal sex (including homosexuality), there is incest, paedophilia, bestiality, fetishism... simmering just beneath the surface. Young boys are regularly presented as objects of lust. Men kiss each other passionately, even when one is about to kill the other! I have heard that Turkey was the centre of "deviant" sexual practices during Ottoman times, so maybe it is a true picture, but it did not vibe with me.
(Edit to add: a person has commented that this paragraph is likely to give the impression that I am attacking LGBTQ people, and on reading it again, I find that there is some substance to the accusation. So I have edited it suitably. The whole idea of putting "deviant" in quotes was to highlight the dubiousness of the label. However, it was the lust that disturbed me and not the sexual preference. Maybe it is my personal problem, that is why I have noted it down subjectively.)
So...adding the negatives and positives, I will go for three stars.
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"I left this book halfway through when I tried it a couple of years back. But now when I come back to it after visiting Istanbul and reading up on the Ottomans, the book is starting to be more accessible. There is a resemblance to Umberto Eco's "Name of the Rose" - not an easy read but engrossing."
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Thanks for the like, Priyanka.
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Great review.Obviously, I did not have a problem with the strengths and weakness of the characters (I gave it 5 stars), but I respect your opinion. I found them to be utterly "human" where this book could have tolerated characters that were more heroic, or "larger-than-life".
I really liked your summary of the positives:
I was captivated by the sweep of the book as well as the way it was presented: short chapters, each from the viewpoint of a different character, as though we were looking at a book of miniatures which tells a different story on each page.
I, too, found the structure of the book to be a major strength - I was far less artful when describing it.
I think that the lust drove the story in a way that it could not have been done, otherwise. As you say, it is one of the two unifying elements throughout the book (the murder being the other one).
For sure "The Name of The Rose" has similarity, but I think these are two equally good, but very differently original books. I would happily re-read either any day.
Try his novella The White castle. It's more palatable! His autobiography Istanbul is also fantastic.
I've read "The White Castle", also.It's a really good book (I gave it a "4") and agree it is an easier read, but not as impressive as "My Name Is Red", I thought.
What a great thread! This book has been on my bedside table since last summer, trying to get my attention. After reading this discussion, I am intrigued enough to dive in. Thanks!
Sorry, All. I seemed to have missed this discussion. Thanks for the likes!Mike and Caroline, I will try The White Castle, but not just now. My TBR pile is touching the roof! ;)
Soheil wrote: "Who do you think was the killer?!"Sorry I missed this comment. However the answer to your question would be a spoiler.
Garrett wrote: "Great review. Simply changed the course of my drive to pass by the library."Thank you.
I have just finished the book and your review reflects exactly my thoughts. Although, I can't in anyways compare my knowledge of the arts to yours but this book would be a good beginning, I hope.Some of the chapters like 'I am a corpse' are truly captivating however past first half I feel it drags on a bit.
However, all in all a very interesting read and a very good review
Wait, did you just equate homosexuality to bestiality and paedofilia? I hope I misunderstood this but please refrain from calling the sexuality of a vast amount of the world's population deviant
Silke wrote: "Wait, did you just equate homosexuality to bestiality and paedofilia? I hope I misunderstood this but please refrain from calling the sexuality of a vast amount of the world's population deviant"That is why I put "deviant" in quotes. And actually it was not that which put me off, but the lust. But yes, I agree with you it can be read differently.
Thank you for pointing it out. I will modify the review suitably.
Thank you for this review - I have a copy lying around, and this reminded me that I really must read it sometime!To add to Silke's comment, perhaps you could shed light on your usage of the phrase 'normal sex'? There are any number of fetishes which are not clinically defined disorders, and the practice of marrying cousins is quite common worldwide (insofar as you view this as 'incest'). I'm also confused by the sentence where you mention men kissing each other before one kills the other - isn't this simply a homosexual equivalent of the 'femme fatale' in popular culture (which admittedly is problematic in its own way)? Perhaps I do not fully understand your point of view, and thank you in advance for clarifying!
The other point I wished to raise was your usage of the masculine pronoun for miniaturists - I understand this might be in deference to the prevalence of male miniaturists during the Ottoman rule, but it is important to not forget that female artists did exist during this period (albeit having to practice their art secretly) - Müfide Kadri comes to mind.
Thanks!
Asiem wrote: "Thank you for this review - I have a copy lying around, and this reminded me that I really must read it sometime!To add to Silke's comment, perhaps you could shed light on your usage of the phras..."
Well, IMO, paedophilia, bestiality etc. are not "normal". Of course, one can argue that anything is normal in sex.
As for men kissing one another before killing - the mixing of lust and violence, I found disturbing. The same as with J.G. Ballard's Crash. It's a personal thing. Another may love it.
As for the "he" - I have not yet mastered the art of the politically correct way of writing. ;)
Nandakishore wrote: "Asiem wrote: "Thank you for this review - I have a copy lying around, and this reminded me that I really must read it sometime!To add to Silke's comment, perhaps you could shed light on your usag..."
Fair enough. Thanks for humouring me :)








