Michelle, the Bookshelf Stalker's Reviews > Looking for Alaska
Looking for Alaska
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Update- 3/10/23
Boy I was passionate 9 years ago. 🤦♀️ I still dislike this story but any book that gets me this worked up, deserved better from me. If you can write so well, that I become so invested into the characters, even if I hate those characters, you are a brilliant writer. Officially giving another 2 star for a total of 3 stars.
Update- 4/12/14
This review/rant receives more comments than any other book review I have. I decided to reply to a few of the comments in my review because the people that don't like my review/rant don't like it for pretty much the same reasons. First, please note there are spoilers. However, the spoilers aren't really spoilers since it doesn't affect your enjoyment or lack of enjoyment if you know the big secret. Nevertheless, a helpful few have pointed out that I have spoilers and I didn't mark them. So are you happy now?
Ok, now to another criticism. Many lovely critics bring up the same point- "maybe John Green just wanted to show a flawed character & you just don't grasp the flawed character"...blah,blah,blah, I'm paraphrasing here and kinda combining all the criticism.
All right I'll bite. Yes, Alaska is flawed. That is obvious. Ok? Did Mr. Green show how Alaska was flawed and resolve either her flaws or how others deal with her flaws if she chose not to change her ways? Nope. Still not buying my argument? Ok. Let's say for the sake of argument, Alaska was a puppy abuser. She goes around kicking puppies. Is her puppy kicking dealt with? Do any of the characters say "listen Alaska Darling, you kick one more puppy and I'm kicking your ass"? Ok, maybe that is a bit extreme, how about does Mr. Green have his characters abandon Alaska because she refuses to give up her puppy kicking ways? Nope. I know, you are saying, "listen, you stupid idiot, Alaska didn't abuse puppies, she only abused other's people's kindness, took advantage of people, emotionally manipulated people and was an all around piss poor person that used her own poor past to lash out". Oh, ok, I see what you mean, nope, not a puppy kicker...clearly I'm wrong.
Below is the old rant/review...enjoy
I'm totally going to regret putting this review in and I'll probably change it later but oh...what...the...hell....
Poor Alaska. She screwed up in her past. She blames herself for something that happened when she was a child. It caused her to be moody, withdrawn, angry, and unpredictable. It caused her to drink too much, take unnecessary risks, take advantage of other people’s kindness. One minute Alaska was fun, the life of the party, caring, and everyone’s best friend. The next minute, she was the bitch.
Poor, poor Alaska. Let’s save Alaska.
Give me a break!
Alaska acted the way she did because she could. She used her past as an excuse for her destructive behavior. Alaska’s friends enabled Alaska’s behavior because they didn’t stand up to her. In fact, they had destructive behavior that needed to be addressed as well but since this book is called “Looking for Alaska”, I’m going to focus on Alaska.
Many people had really shitty childhoods. Many people were physically and mentally abused as children. Many people were left to survive on their own as children…hungry, dirty and alone. These people didn’t grow up to use their bad childhood, their own guilt, or their past mistakes to act out, take advantage of other people, or to basically treat people like crap.
I’m not uncaring. Far from it. I have a ton of compassion. I’m too caring. But being a victim does not excuse your behavior. Being a victim does not justify your behavior. You still have to treat people with kindness, compassion, love, and honesty regardless of what struggles you survived. Get help, and then move on.
If someone is treating you wrong, call them on it. Don’t look into their past to try to explain away their behavior. That is BS. It isn’t quirkiness, it isn’t moodiness, it is abuse.
So dear Miles aka Pudge, why are you seeking Alaska’s forgiveness? You did nothing wrong except failing to recognize Alaska’s destructive behavior and failing to get away from it.
If a person is friendly, kind, caring one minute, but then angry, withdrawn the next, THEY have a problem.
If a person is drinking too much, partying to hard, ignoring authority, breaking the rules, THEY have a problem.
If you are trying to figure the above-mentioned person out, if you are trying to solve that person’s problems, figure out why they are the way they are, YOU have a problem.
I’m off my pedestal now.
I’m going to probably change this review once I stop being so irritated but for right now, I’m rolling with it. And if I didn’t “get” the true meaning of the book, well, I’m sorry; I don’t want to “get” it. I don’t care. Alaska sucked as a friend and she was a lousy human being, and she took up too much of my time by reading the book.
Boy I was passionate 9 years ago. 🤦♀️ I still dislike this story but any book that gets me this worked up, deserved better from me. If you can write so well, that I become so invested into the characters, even if I hate those characters, you are a brilliant writer. Officially giving another 2 star for a total of 3 stars.
Update- 4/12/14
This review/rant receives more comments than any other book review I have. I decided to reply to a few of the comments in my review because the people that don't like my review/rant don't like it for pretty much the same reasons. First, please note there are spoilers. However, the spoilers aren't really spoilers since it doesn't affect your enjoyment or lack of enjoyment if you know the big secret. Nevertheless, a helpful few have pointed out that I have spoilers and I didn't mark them. So are you happy now?
Ok, now to another criticism. Many lovely critics bring up the same point- "maybe John Green just wanted to show a flawed character & you just don't grasp the flawed character"...blah,blah,blah, I'm paraphrasing here and kinda combining all the criticism.
All right I'll bite. Yes, Alaska is flawed. That is obvious. Ok? Did Mr. Green show how Alaska was flawed and resolve either her flaws or how others deal with her flaws if she chose not to change her ways? Nope. Still not buying my argument? Ok. Let's say for the sake of argument, Alaska was a puppy abuser. She goes around kicking puppies. Is her puppy kicking dealt with? Do any of the characters say "listen Alaska Darling, you kick one more puppy and I'm kicking your ass"? Ok, maybe that is a bit extreme, how about does Mr. Green have his characters abandon Alaska because she refuses to give up her puppy kicking ways? Nope. I know, you are saying, "listen, you stupid idiot, Alaska didn't abuse puppies, she only abused other's people's kindness, took advantage of people, emotionally manipulated people and was an all around piss poor person that used her own poor past to lash out". Oh, ok, I see what you mean, nope, not a puppy kicker...clearly I'm wrong.
Below is the old rant/review...enjoy
I'm totally going to regret putting this review in and I'll probably change it later but oh...what...the...hell....
Poor Alaska. She screwed up in her past. She blames herself for something that happened when she was a child. It caused her to be moody, withdrawn, angry, and unpredictable. It caused her to drink too much, take unnecessary risks, take advantage of other people’s kindness. One minute Alaska was fun, the life of the party, caring, and everyone’s best friend. The next minute, she was the bitch.
Poor, poor Alaska. Let’s save Alaska.
Give me a break!
Alaska acted the way she did because she could. She used her past as an excuse for her destructive behavior. Alaska’s friends enabled Alaska’s behavior because they didn’t stand up to her. In fact, they had destructive behavior that needed to be addressed as well but since this book is called “Looking for Alaska”, I’m going to focus on Alaska.
Many people had really shitty childhoods. Many people were physically and mentally abused as children. Many people were left to survive on their own as children…hungry, dirty and alone. These people didn’t grow up to use their bad childhood, their own guilt, or their past mistakes to act out, take advantage of other people, or to basically treat people like crap.
I’m not uncaring. Far from it. I have a ton of compassion. I’m too caring. But being a victim does not excuse your behavior. Being a victim does not justify your behavior. You still have to treat people with kindness, compassion, love, and honesty regardless of what struggles you survived. Get help, and then move on.
If someone is treating you wrong, call them on it. Don’t look into their past to try to explain away their behavior. That is BS. It isn’t quirkiness, it isn’t moodiness, it is abuse.
So dear Miles aka Pudge, why are you seeking Alaska’s forgiveness? You did nothing wrong except failing to recognize Alaska’s destructive behavior and failing to get away from it.
If a person is friendly, kind, caring one minute, but then angry, withdrawn the next, THEY have a problem.
If a person is drinking too much, partying to hard, ignoring authority, breaking the rules, THEY have a problem.
If you are trying to figure the above-mentioned person out, if you are trying to solve that person’s problems, figure out why they are the way they are, YOU have a problem.
I’m off my pedestal now.
I’m going to probably change this review once I stop being so irritated but for right now, I’m rolling with it. And if I didn’t “get” the true meaning of the book, well, I’m sorry; I don’t want to “get” it. I don’t care. Alaska sucked as a friend and she was a lousy human being, and she took up too much of my time by reading the book.
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Reading Progress
February 29, 2012
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Started Reading
February 29, 2012
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February 29, 2012
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5.0%
"Can't figure out what I think about this one yet, so I'll wait and decide later."
February 29, 2012
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10.0%
"I still am left in the dark about this one. I'm kind of waiting for something. What? I don't know."
March 1, 2012
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45.0%
"Ok.. this is the strangest, weirdest, most annoying book that I absolutely cannot stop reading. What is up with this countdown!!! I'm at like 40 something days."
March 1, 2012
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60.0%
"4 days left until I can figure out what the hell is going on with this book. 4 day countdown....4 days!!!! If you have no clue what I'm talking about...neither do I since the author gives the reader no clue what he is counting down...whatever it is....it's only FOUR days!!!!"
March 4, 2012
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88.0%
"I thought I'd like this one alot more than I have. I don't feel the characters- their anger, their sadness, their fear. It's just not there. Plus, my sadness for Alaska is not there."
March 5, 2012
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Finished Reading
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Holly wrote: "Can't wait to hear what you think of this one. :)"I have his new book as well so I hope I like this one!
Mary Elizabeth wrote: "Michelle sorry to bother you but I've started Angel by Weatherly and it's kind of bad right now should I persevere ?"Well I was a much easier reviewer when I read the book so I would have given the book 3 stars if I read it now. It's an okay book. I ended up never picking up book 2. I think if you aren't captured by it now, you should maybe move onto something else. Too many books, too little time!
I can't wait to read your review! I am thinking it may have the same thoughts as why I never started this book.
Mary Elizabeth wrote: "thx Michelle *hugs* :)Too many books, too little time!<< damn right LOL"hugs back to you!
Regina wrote: "I can't wait to read your review! I am thinking it may have the same thoughts as why I never started this book."I have to watch myself on my 1 star reviews. If I write them right away, I'm sarcastic and bitchy and I don't want that! But, yeah, I have plenty of thoughts on this one. I'll write my review soon!
Tatiana wrote: "a very passionate review:) (can't say i disagree, in general)"Yeah my passion on this subject definitely can get me worked up! I'll probably regret this review later but oh well. :)
Mary Elizabeth wrote: "I feel your pain Michelle, sounds like a frustrating read !! like your review as it is ;) it's honest ..."Thanks!
I had the illusion that smoke was coming out of my computer while reading your review Michelle! But it was a good one! I can understand how angry some characters make us, so if you didn't like Alaska, I'm with you all the way.
I didn't think of it that way at first, but you have a VERY good point. In fact, so good I'm a bit scared I was blind to this part of it in the first place.
I haven't read this but don't change your review. It struck you emotionally and everything that didn't work for you comes through loud and clear. Those things would bother me too, a whole helluvalot, so I'll steer clear.
Penny wrote: "I had the illusion that smoke was coming out of my computer while reading your review Michelle! But it was a good one! I can understand how angry some characters make us, so if you didn't like Alas..."haha...yeah, this is a rough subject for me. Lack of accountability due to shitty childhood!
Mello wrote: "I didn't think of it that way at first, but you have a VERY good point. In fact, so good I'm a bit scared I was blind to this part of it in the first place."You know I looked at other reviews before I wrote this and I felt like I was missing something. I was so focused on the wrongness of Alaska that I might have missed that one point the author was trying to make. You know how some readers cannot stand love triangles, or infidelity or whatever in a book and they notice it immediately and all the flags go up? This is my red flag.
BarkLessWagMore wrote: "I haven't read this but don't change your review. It struck you emotionally and everything that didn't work for you comes through loud and clear. Those things would bother me too, a whole helluva..."It definitely struck me. I do wonder what I missed in the book though. I was really annoyed so that clouded all my joy for the book.
Michelle, the Bookshelf Stalker wrote: "Mello wrote: "I didn't think of it that way at first, but you have a VERY good point. In fact, so good I'm a bit scared I was blind to this part of it in the first place."You know I looked at oth..."
And a good red flag indeed.
Totally disagree, but everyone has their own opinions. :)
At least you had the guts to admit it was shit.
At least you had the guts to admit it was shit.
Mitch wrote: "Totally disagree, but everyone has their own opinions. :)At least you had the guts to admit it was shit."
Thanks. I agree that everyone has differences of opinion. Glad you enjoyed it!
I agree with everything you wrote!! I strongly disliked this book!! Great review!! Im glad to see Im not the only one annoyed with Alaska
Stacey wrote: "I agree with everything you wrote!! I strongly disliked this book!! Great review!! Im glad to see Im not the only one annoyed with Alaska"Thanks Stacey. I wish I liked it more but nope, it wasn't for me.
I was going to read this book but after i've read your review, i turned it down. As a 16 year old girl, i do love YA books but i despise people/characters or books that contain drugs abuse. In terms of sex, i don't mind it in YA books. The only book i've read by John Green was "The Fault in Our Stars" and honestly, i didn't like it. I was going to give his books another try but now i don't think i want to
Fuck you. If you have no pity for Alaska, then it's your damn problem. You obviously can't see all the other aspects of this book, and the way your opinion doesn't matter about why Pudge is in love. No one can help being in love and if you have a problem who Pudge is in love with, then you should just go fuck yourself. I'm such an ass right now, and I'm probably getting kicked off Goodreads for commenting this, but on a more coherent note, maybe you could try reading it again and try to see it how beautiful it is from Pudge's rich perspective.
Sarah wrote: "Fuck you. If you have no pity for Alaska, then it's your damn problem. You obviously can't see all the other aspects of this book, and the way your opinion doesn't matter about why Pudge is in love..."Sarah, I understand you feel passionate about the book and you have every right to be passionate. I just don't appreciate the way you express yourself on my review. There are better ways of disagreeing with someone.
Michelle, the Bookshelf Stalker wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Fuck you. If you have no pity for Alaska, then it's your damn problem. You obviously can't see all the other aspects of this book, and the way your opinion doesn't matter about why Pu..."Yeah. I totally agree. Sorry, I get over angry sometimes. You are absolutely right. I apologize for my language and overall immaturity. Thank you for understanding and being civilized, unlike myself.
Sarah wrote: "Michelle, the Bookshelf Stalker wrote: "Sarah wrote: "Fuck you. If you have no pity for Alaska, then it's your damn problem. You obviously can't see all the other aspects of this book, and the way..."We all have our moments. Live and learn and then move on. Take care.
Wowsa. I think this is a good review and def not too over the top. You simply stated why you disliked the book in a (I feel) responsible and effective way. Keep it up, don't always have the chance to say it, but I enjoy your reviews immensely!
Michelle, the way you gently and kindly defused a potentially ugly scene is the reason you're my hero. ♥ I'm not sure I could have been as patient, but I'm glad everyone is walking away with a virtual handshake.
Wendy Darling wrote: "Michelle, the way you gently and kindly defused a potentially ugly scene is the reason you're my hero. ♥ I'm not sure I could have been as patient, but I'm glad everyone is walking away with a virt..."I learned from you Wendy. Seriously.
Samantha wrote: "I've never heard of this book but most likely would have read it just for the 65k ratings with an average of 4 stars. After reading your review, I'm glad this is the first time I'm hearing of it. Y..."As you can see from other people, many love it and I'm just one person. I never want to completely discourage anyone from reading a book. My review is not even a review but more of a rant. Thanks for the note!
I just wanted to say... I love your review (even though I never read this book, but hell, after your comment in the other thread I had to come read the review)! So while I can't comment on the book, I did want to say that I whole-heartedly agree that crappy stuff in your past is no excuse to be horrible to someone now. Everyone has shit in their lives that they have to overcome, but it is silly to blame past shit for choices you make now. "I can't be held responsible for my crap choices because my parents did blah blah blah." What if everyone did that? Your parents can't be held responsible for what they did to you because their parents did blah blah to them, whose parents did blah blah to them... and on and on. It is a chain that can only be broken when we decide to start being responsible for our own lives. That's part of being an adult: taking responsibility for our actions.Like you, I don't feel like I am without compassion. I just don't have a lot of patience for people who treat others badly as they cry about how hard they've had it. *shrug*
Katyana wrote: "I just wanted to say... I love your review (even though I never read this book, but hell, after your comment in the other thread I had to come read the review)! So while I can't comment on the book..."It is my evil trigger.... personal responsibility. I shut down and become outright hostile when dealing with characters that use their past as an excuse for their own bad behavior. You are definitely not alone in strong feelings on character actions in a book. thanks by the way for checking out my review. :)
You bring up good points, although I think that the point of Looking for Alaska was for Alaska's friends to see how unjustified her actions were and use the knowledge gained from her situtation to modify their lives for the better. Have you read Thirteen Reasons Why? I believe that you'd probably feel even more frustrated when reading that one.
I am currently reading this book and am near the end. Although I think you made some valid points I do disagree with you on some things.Alaska's friends did not let her get away with her destructive behavior. They knew she was moody but they accepted it. And as real friends should, they accepted her for who she is. Also, let's remember these group of characters are teens, growing up and finding their way in life. They were not mature enough to see how her past correlated with her present behavior until after her untimely death when Miles stops and puts the pieces together- hence the title " looking for Alaska" . She never talked much about her past till the end which is why none of them put the pieces together before hand.
I do agree that you can't use your past as an excuse for bad behavior. However, I don't think Alaska used her past experience of seeing her mother die as an excuse to be moody and a "bitch" as you put it. You got to remember, she never sought help over what she had endured. Therefore, it affected her emotionally and mentally. Perhaps if she got professional help she would be a different person. And also, before she told her friends about what happened to her as a kid, nobody was questioning why she was moody. Again, like I said before, these are group of kids that aren't necessarily mature enough to see the signs of trauma/ abuse in someone. I'm not saying that this is an excuse for her strange and erratic behaviour. All I'm saying is that when someone endures something traumatic like Alaska did and doesn't get the help to deal with it, it can affect them and make them lose control. I think this story also tells us that not everyone is as they seem and that behind every face is a person who has gone through their own struggles, highs, lows and struggles. I appreciate John's effort and honesty that he put into writing this book.
Stephanie, you captured my thoughts perfectly and then some!To Michelle: While I loved this book, I empathize with your dislike of it: I couldn't stand the Confederacy of Dunces due to its title character, which I think is a pretty parallel situation. :)
Samantha, I'm glad you could see things from my viewpoint. I just finished the story and I actually do like it. It is different from other books I have read. I like John's writing style. He has an authentic and genuine voice which is sometimes very rare to find when reading about teen fiction.
I completely agree with this review. I was really irritated throughout the entire book while I was reading it; I wanted so badly to scream at the characters and tell them to stop being idiots. It annoyed me that the first thing he mentions about Alaska is how incredibly hot she is...and then no other positive quality is ever really said about her, other than her being "smart" which I disagree with. Being moody and reading books and asking lofty questions doesn't make one smart automatically. Because she was "hot" she got away with basically everything that an "ugly" character would have been completely hated for. It disgusted me really, the whole thing. I don't know where John Greene was really going with this one...just seemed to be the typical "tragic mysterious hot girl" archetype and I severely disliked it.
Samantha you could spin it the other way and say that maybe john green depicts his characters in the way he does for a different reason- to show how human beings are flawed.Yeah I know how he points out to how "hot" she was, but as the story unfolds miles eventually realised that he never really knew her at all only the version he wanted to be.
And Alaska had to be some sort of "smart" as she got in that school on a scholarship
I also think all her friends loved her so much was that despite KNOWING that she was moody and could be a bitch- the colonel mentions this several times in the book- they still loved her even if she was a mystery
I rated the book as okay but in essence I agree w/your review. There is not a person who you find yourself attached to. All the main characters were flawed and self-involved. The reason I didn't hate the novel is b/c I am hoping that other John Green stories are better since this is apparently his first one. Still I was hoping for more.
Mike wrote: "I rated the book as okay but in essence I agree w/your review. There is not a person who you find yourself attached to. All the main characters were flawed and self-involved. The reason I didn'..."I really enjoyed his other books. I just hated this one.
I thought I was the only one who hated Alaska.... then I found your review. I agree with everything you said!! She is one of the most unhinged characters I have ever encountered and it obvious that the only reason anyone puts up with her bs is because she's "hot". Give me a break!!
I agree that childhood doesn't justify behaviors but it does cause them. People handle grieving differently and Alaska showed her grief through behavior. If you have ever lost someone, then you know it can make you do wild, crazy or stupid things. It's not "poor Alaska", she lost her mother. That is extremely difficult to handle, especially when you feel you could've saved her. It can mess you up. Have some compassion and empathy.
Sophie wrote: "...If you have ever lost someone, then you know it can make you do wild, crazy or stupid things."
Losing someone you love is not the cause of your actions. Your inability to deal with that loss, is the cause.
Losing someone is extremely hard to deal with. But based on what you are saying, if you are grieving, dealing with your own emotional turmoil, a victim, etc., that is the green light to abuse your friends?
If you lose someone you love, then you can be an abusive bitch? Ok, that makes total sense.
Whether she is a likeable or unlikeable character shouldn't really be the focus here. It's important to focus on why John green gives an ambiguous depiction of her. Why don't we get a more accurate portrayal of her flaws and why is she idolized by the others? I personally think none of us will ever know the "real" Alaska or how she died because it's part of Greens message- that we can find hope and move on with our lives even if we don't have all the answers. We are ALL FLAWED HUMAN BEINGS and we have to ACCEPT the things we cannot change or understand completely. This does sound sort of philosophical but it's just my view.
Exactly pat! There's good and bad in everbody! And knowing a characters flaws shouldn't make us hate the story, it brings realism. Also, if characters aren't flawed and are "perfect" it makes a story not interesting at all.






