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Serpent & Dove (Serpent & Dove, #1)
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Rating: 1.5 Stars
Before I begin I'd like to start us off with some quotes:
"Didn’t all men share some sort of unspoken camaraderie? A mutual understanding of their own collective importance?"
"From the dawn of time, this has been men’s plight – to be tempted by women." - Mean Witch-hunter #47
Does this dialogue make you go haha yeah #feminism, or does it make you cringe in a little ball? Well you're in for this type of writing and much more!
Serpent and Dove has been marketed as a clash between witch and witch-hunter, the revolutionary new fantasy romance novel. What you actually get is 90% romance with poor world-building and very little witch/witch-hunting action. I can totally understand if you just want a guilty pleasure book that has a hate-to-love (and by love I mean forever and always and eternal and our souls are bound as one) romance, but if you are expecting anything more you will be disappointed.
Since I opened this review with some quotes, let me explain my issues with them and with the style of writing in general.
1) Nuance? Never heard of her. If you're looking for any sort of nuance in this book you can check your expectations at the door because you won't find it here. There are many heavy-handed quotes that prevent any real insight or examination into the characters or society as a whole. You might hope that the author would use the premise of two people with drastically different philosophies on life to explore why people get indoctrinated into cult-like groups and how people might struggle with their faith when faced with atrocities but ..... nope.
2) Anachronisms Now you could argue that anachronism isn't something that even applies to fantasy novels. These phrases didn't exist in historically accurate magical witch colonies! isn't a strong argument in-and-of itself. But Lou's diction sounds like you took an edgy modern teenager and dropped her into this story. The author is clearly using a backdrop that resembles France anywhere from the 14th century to the 18th century, and includes the patriarchal and religious baggage that comes with such an era. The reader is supposed to believe that Lou was raised in such a society, but her dialogue is so dissonant with the world she resides in that it is very difficult to get any sense of realism. It's one of the reasons the world-building is so poor: the characters (especially Lou) and the society are completely at odds. I don't expect the characters to speak with historically accurate phrases, but the dialogue is so uncompromisingly modern that I wouldn't have been surprised if she started using hashtags. Which leads me to...
3) #Woke Now look, obviously I'm all for strong feminist characters; it's one of the main selling points for YA fiction. But I dislike the use of heavy-handed crowd-pleasing quotes that proclaim a feminist message in place of well-crafted characters and stories that show this message. Good stories don't need to tell you that they're progressive. Often books that use #woke quotes actually contradict their message with poor characters which is what happens here! But more on that later.
Now I have one more more thing to say about the writing style. In addition to cringey quotes there are also just badly worded sentences.
"Our respect had once been mutual. But that was before the envy."
"There were worse kinds of smoke than chimney."
There were worse kinds of smoke than chimney.
There were worse kinds of smoke than chimney.
How did anyone think that this is good sentence structure??? It's clunky, awkward, and just plain uncomfortable to read. I think any English teacher would underline this in a heartbeat with a note that just said syntax! Honestly this would make my top 10 worst literary quotes of 2019 if I had such a list. Perhaps I should make such a list.
Let's move onto the plot. Like I said before there is very little witch action. It will trick you at the beginning into thinking there will be a lot of interesting magic, but that doesn't last long. The majority of the time you will be quite literally stuck in a room with our protagonists. There is some interesting action at the end, but the poor world-building means the reader never feels that this conflict has much weight. The only world-building you get is from a few info-dumps sprinkled throughout the book and you barely get to see this magical world integrated into the setting or the plot. And for some reason they edited the Goodreads book description so that it now spoils most of the plot points that hold any interest? Why would you do this? I have screenshots! The previous description was much better, but I digress. So let's take a look at main subject of this book: romance.
If sappy romance is all that you're looking for I'm sure you will be fairly satisfied. But I would warn other readers that these two people go from hating each other to this:
"I loved him. Deeply. Such a love was not something of just the heart and mind. It wasn’t something to be felt and eventually forgotten, to be touched without it in return touching you. No . . . this love was something else. Something irrevocable. It was something of the soul."
in the span of this short novel. Yes, it is that overly-dramatic and it doesn't follow any realistic progression. Firstly, Reid doesn't undergo any type of character arc in which he learns to accepts witches. Of course for the majority of the novel Reid doesn't know that Lou is a witch, but he is aware that she sympathizes with them. So there should have been some type of progression/self-doubt but it is barely explored! Minor spoiler: in the SECOND HALF of the novel Reid captures and burns a witch alive.... and he feels nothing! There is no internal conflict about morality; not even a hint of self-doubt. He only feels bad that Lou is upset but at no point in the novel does he ever explore his feelings about this event, and I'll remind you that he is a viewpoint character. He just burns someone alive ..... and then we move on. The author never takes advantage of situations like these to further the growth of a character. A character can't go from burning a witch to fulling loving one in the last half of a novel! They could have saved this full acceptance for a future novel because in the context of Reid's character arc - or lack thereof - it falls flat.
Secondly, many aspects of the romance contradict the self-proclaimed feminist message. Lou seems to enjoy that Reid acts possessive/jealous once they are married even though she doesn't like him. As Lou's feelings grow she refers to his ex-love interest Celie as a "cow" multiple times though she knows nothing about her - I thought we were past this as a society. Lastly and most importantly (Minor Spoiler) when Lou discovers Reid is still a virgin even though he had a relationship with Celie she has this thought:
"How could Celie have abandoned him in this? What else was first love good for but bumbling hands and breathless discovery? At least she’d taught him to kiss properly. I supposed I should be grateful for that."
Just let that sink in. I could write a dissertation on the problems with that statement. Stay tuned for my 100-page essay! But let me at least say this to any young girl who is reading this review: You have absolutely no obligation or responsibility to be physically intimate with your significant other. It is a very personal decision that should be made in your own time and if anyone ever tries to manipulate you into doing something you are not ready for, drop them! You deserve better. It is your choice and don't ever feel any sort of obligation to do more than you feel comfortable doing. This quote sends such a dangerous, toxic message in a novel aimed at teenagers that it honestly disgusts me. Not to mention that in this era any girl would have been socially ostracized if not physically abused had she become pregnant while she was unmarried so Celie's actions are even more understandable (do you see what I mean about the disconnect between character and society?). And this is why I have so many problems with the #woke language of this novel since its underlying sexist tones completely undercut its feminist message.
In conclusion, I feel that this novel has many problems. It doesn't deliver on world-building or fantasy adventure, and the romance is over-dramatic and at times problematic. I'm not here to criticize anyone who found enjoyment in this novel, but I hope I have made potential readers aware of type of book they will be reading. It may seem that I am holding YA literature to an overly high standard but it is only because I have a lot of respect for the genre and I know that many great books have and will continue to grow from it. This is not one of them.
Thanks to Edelweiss for the ARC.
Review of Blood & Honey
Before I begin I'd like to start us off with some quotes:
"Didn’t all men share some sort of unspoken camaraderie? A mutual understanding of their own collective importance?"
"From the dawn of time, this has been men’s plight – to be tempted by women." - Mean Witch-hunter #47
Does this dialogue make you go haha yeah #feminism, or does it make you cringe in a little ball? Well you're in for this type of writing and much more!
Serpent and Dove has been marketed as a clash between witch and witch-hunter, the revolutionary new fantasy romance novel. What you actually get is 90% romance with poor world-building and very little witch/witch-hunting action. I can totally understand if you just want a guilty pleasure book that has a hate-to-love (and by love I mean forever and always and eternal and our souls are bound as one) romance, but if you are expecting anything more you will be disappointed.
Since I opened this review with some quotes, let me explain my issues with them and with the style of writing in general.
1) Nuance? Never heard of her. If you're looking for any sort of nuance in this book you can check your expectations at the door because you won't find it here. There are many heavy-handed quotes that prevent any real insight or examination into the characters or society as a whole. You might hope that the author would use the premise of two people with drastically different philosophies on life to explore why people get indoctrinated into cult-like groups and how people might struggle with their faith when faced with atrocities but ..... nope.
2) Anachronisms Now you could argue that anachronism isn't something that even applies to fantasy novels. These phrases didn't exist in historically accurate magical witch colonies! isn't a strong argument in-and-of itself. But Lou's diction sounds like you took an edgy modern teenager and dropped her into this story. The author is clearly using a backdrop that resembles France anywhere from the 14th century to the 18th century, and includes the patriarchal and religious baggage that comes with such an era. The reader is supposed to believe that Lou was raised in such a society, but her dialogue is so dissonant with the world she resides in that it is very difficult to get any sense of realism. It's one of the reasons the world-building is so poor: the characters (especially Lou) and the society are completely at odds. I don't expect the characters to speak with historically accurate phrases, but the dialogue is so uncompromisingly modern that I wouldn't have been surprised if she started using hashtags. Which leads me to...
3) #Woke Now look, obviously I'm all for strong feminist characters; it's one of the main selling points for YA fiction. But I dislike the use of heavy-handed crowd-pleasing quotes that proclaim a feminist message in place of well-crafted characters and stories that show this message. Good stories don't need to tell you that they're progressive. Often books that use #woke quotes actually contradict their message with poor characters which is what happens here! But more on that later.
Now I have one more more thing to say about the writing style. In addition to cringey quotes there are also just badly worded sentences.
"Our respect had once been mutual. But that was before the envy."
"There were worse kinds of smoke than chimney."
There were worse kinds of smoke than chimney.
There were worse kinds of smoke than chimney.
How did anyone think that this is good sentence structure??? It's clunky, awkward, and just plain uncomfortable to read. I think any English teacher would underline this in a heartbeat with a note that just said syntax! Honestly this would make my top 10 worst literary quotes of 2019 if I had such a list. Perhaps I should make such a list.
Let's move onto the plot. Like I said before there is very little witch action. It will trick you at the beginning into thinking there will be a lot of interesting magic, but that doesn't last long. The majority of the time you will be quite literally stuck in a room with our protagonists. There is some interesting action at the end, but the poor world-building means the reader never feels that this conflict has much weight. The only world-building you get is from a few info-dumps sprinkled throughout the book and you barely get to see this magical world integrated into the setting or the plot. And for some reason they edited the Goodreads book description so that it now spoils most of the plot points that hold any interest? Why would you do this? I have screenshots! The previous description was much better, but I digress. So let's take a look at main subject of this book: romance.
If sappy romance is all that you're looking for I'm sure you will be fairly satisfied. But I would warn other readers that these two people go from hating each other to this:
"I loved him. Deeply. Such a love was not something of just the heart and mind. It wasn’t something to be felt and eventually forgotten, to be touched without it in return touching you. No . . . this love was something else. Something irrevocable. It was something of the soul."
in the span of this short novel. Yes, it is that overly-dramatic and it doesn't follow any realistic progression. Firstly, Reid doesn't undergo any type of character arc in which he learns to accepts witches. Of course for the majority of the novel Reid doesn't know that Lou is a witch, but he is aware that she sympathizes with them. So there should have been some type of progression/self-doubt but it is barely explored! Minor spoiler: in the SECOND HALF of the novel Reid captures and burns a witch alive.... and he feels nothing! There is no internal conflict about morality; not even a hint of self-doubt. He only feels bad that Lou is upset but at no point in the novel does he ever explore his feelings about this event, and I'll remind you that he is a viewpoint character. He just burns someone alive ..... and then we move on. The author never takes advantage of situations like these to further the growth of a character. A character can't go from burning a witch to fulling loving one in the last half of a novel! They could have saved this full acceptance for a future novel because in the context of Reid's character arc - or lack thereof - it falls flat.
Secondly, many aspects of the romance contradict the self-proclaimed feminist message. Lou seems to enjoy that Reid acts possessive/jealous once they are married even though she doesn't like him. As Lou's feelings grow she refers to his ex-love interest Celie as a "cow" multiple times though she knows nothing about her - I thought we were past this as a society. Lastly and most importantly (Minor Spoiler) when Lou discovers Reid is still a virgin even though he had a relationship with Celie she has this thought:
"How could Celie have abandoned him in this? What else was first love good for but bumbling hands and breathless discovery? At least she’d taught him to kiss properly. I supposed I should be grateful for that."
Just let that sink in. I could write a dissertation on the problems with that statement. Stay tuned for my 100-page essay! But let me at least say this to any young girl who is reading this review: You have absolutely no obligation or responsibility to be physically intimate with your significant other. It is a very personal decision that should be made in your own time and if anyone ever tries to manipulate you into doing something you are not ready for, drop them! You deserve better. It is your choice and don't ever feel any sort of obligation to do more than you feel comfortable doing. This quote sends such a dangerous, toxic message in a novel aimed at teenagers that it honestly disgusts me. Not to mention that in this era any girl would have been socially ostracized if not physically abused had she become pregnant while she was unmarried so Celie's actions are even more understandable (do you see what I mean about the disconnect between character and society?). And this is why I have so many problems with the #woke language of this novel since its underlying sexist tones completely undercut its feminist message.
In conclusion, I feel that this novel has many problems. It doesn't deliver on world-building or fantasy adventure, and the romance is over-dramatic and at times problematic. I'm not here to criticize anyone who found enjoyment in this novel, but I hope I have made potential readers aware of type of book they will be reading. It may seem that I am holding YA literature to an overly high standard but it is only because I have a lot of respect for the genre and I know that many great books have and will continue to grow from it. This is not one of them.
Thanks to Edelweiss for the ARC.
Review of Blood & Honey
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Ah, exactly the review I wanted to leave. Thanks for doing all the work for me.
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Alex wrote: "Ah, exactly the review I wanted to leave. Thanks for doing all the work for me."No problem. Anytime :)
Yes yes yes!!! I DNFed at 50% so I didn’t make it to the love scene, but had I made it to the thought about Celie I would have screamed! Obviously this author doesn’t have any idea about asexuality.... 🙄 first/last/all love is good for many things, it doesn’t have to be sexual.
Lauren wrote: "Yes yes yes!!! I DNFed at 50% so I didn’t make it to the love scene, but had I made it to the thought about Celie I would have screamed! Obviously this author doesn’t have any idea about asexuality..."Tell me about it. I probably did a triple take when I read that line.
Exactly how I felt when I read that. Also I think there was a part when Lou said that witches are women because they have wombs. Like some women don’t have wombs?? Does that make them any less of a woman?? How tone deaf is that? I consider myself a feminist, but the feminism in this book is the kind I’m constantly criticizing because it only serves SOME people not ALL.
Nana wrote: "Exactly how I felt when I read that. Also I think there was a part when Lou said that witches are women because they have wombs. Like some women don’t have wombs?? Does that make them any less of a..."Wow I don't think I even saw that line when I read it. It's definitely full of "interesting" quotes!
I think this is the best review I've read in a while- I laughed out loud a few times! I actually had to go on an Instagram story rant about this book as soon as I finished it because it bothered me so much.
I DNFd this book a week ago and haven't had the energy to articulate any of the issues I had with it. I don't even have the willpower to put my thoughts into a series of memes. You are an absolute hero - you've wrapped up all the issues in a nice package and decorated them with a nice big bow of sass. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this review, I'm going to link to it whenever someone asks me how I felt about this shitty shitshow of a book. Thanks again xx
Alice wrote: "I think this is the best review I've read in a while- I laughed out loud a few times! I actually had to go on an Instagram story rant about this book as soon as I finished it because it bothered m..."
Aw thank you! I tried to make it entertaining so my frustration wouldn't overwhelm me.
Gabrielle wrote: "I DNFd this book a week ago and haven't had the energy to articulate any of the issues I had with it. I don't even have the willpower to put my thoughts into a series of memes. You are an absolute ..."I'm so glad you enjoyed it! I literally stayed up half the night writing it because I just got in that zone of annoyance/frustration which is a surprisingly good motivator. Honestly I've been blown away by the amount of positive feedback. I just needed to get my feelings out of my system and I never anticipated so many people reading it!
This is such a great review! You have a beautiful and analytical writing and you just finished to convince me to not read this book, since I was hesitating.
Marine wrote: "This is such a great review! You have a beautiful and analytical writing and you just finished to convince me to not read this book, since I was hesitating."Thank you so much! I'm glad it was helpful.
Oh, goodness. I HATE historical-based stuff with "feminist" messages that completely miss all social context and why some women might have wanted/needed to conform to society's rules. It sounds like this book was kind of the same way? Judging women for conforming to the patriarchy is not the same as fighting the patriarchy, heroines! And it's fine if a woman doesn't want to have sex before marriage, especially in a time period where she'd become an outcast from society if word got out that she did. (I mean, it's fine to not want to have sex at all. But try telling that to some YA heroines out there, I guess. :-/ )Anyway, the heroine sounds really mean. I hate when female second leads get treated like this. I loved your review!
The Smol Moth wrote: "Oh, goodness. I HATE historical-based stuff with "feminist" messages that completely miss all social context and why some women might have wanted/needed to conform to society's rules. It sounds lik..."Thank you! Yes this is definitely the case where the protagonist is very judgmental towards other women. It's frustrating when authors use a historical setting but then judge characters by modern standards.
OMG, this review is EVERYTHING! Especially how you adressed the issue of Lou's language and her "feminism" where she is just plainly condescending toward other women!
Hurrikan Kathrina wrote: "OMG, this review is EVERYTHING! Especially how you adressed the issue of Lou's language and her "feminism" where she is just plainly condescending toward other women!"Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed the review! That was definitely the most frustrating part of the book for me.
Oh my god, I wish I had read this review before I got this book. I DNF-ed and completely agree. The dialogue for me was particularly cringe!
Claire wrote: "Oh my god, I wish I had read this review before I got this book. I DNF-ed and completely agree. The dialogue for me was particularly cringe!"Aw at least we're able to share in the frustration! I think I would have been able to put up with a lot more in this book if it wasn't for the dialogue.
I absolutely hated this book. It took me a good month and a half to finish. It’s been 2 months since I finished it and I still look for reviews that hate on it because everywhere I go it gets praised. Everything you said literally sums up the book. And honestly I do not see how people can compare it to some amazing YA books out there but That’s life I suppose
Cir wrote: "I absolutely hated this book. It took me a good month and a half to finish. It’s been 2 months since I finished it and I still look for reviews that hate on it because everywhere I go it gets prais..."Well I guess to each their own! But I was definitely surprised by how popular it became. There were barely any negative reviews when I read it and that prompted me to write my review. At least I'm not the only one who feels this way!
I just DNF this book and couldn't agree more with your review. It felt like the author threw her story into "ye olden tymes" because that's so ubiquitous in fantasy, and used the Catholic church because it was convenient, but with no interest in understanding not only certain cultural mores and beliefs, but the reasonings behind them. Just window dressing for flimsy characters and a mediocre story.
kerry wrote: "I just DNF this book and couldn't agree more with your review. It felt like the author threw her story into "ye olden tymes" because that's so ubiquitous in fantasy, and used the Catholic church be..."Honestly I should probably have DNF'd too, I don't know why I put myself through stuff like this 😅 I'm glad you enjoyed my review! And I totally agree, the French Catholic setting is just a substitute for actual worldbuilding.
Berrie wrote: "I agree so much with the woke part. this author is lucky to be writing in a time where Cixous, Kristeva and the like are dead because—"Omg 😂
Really interesting review. I agree with most of it, but not with the interpretation of Lou's words about Celie. I don't think it is her/author statemnet "you have to have sex with your boyfriend, other way you hurt him". It's rather excuse to show how bold in romantic relationships was Lou, especially comparing to Reid (which was quiet funny and pattern-breaking), and how self-confident she was at the moment (doesn`t care about prior romantic interests of her lover, doesn't have to).It was Lou view on love (she can`t imagine it without sexual aspect), not authors. Not every heroine should manifest right and likeable ideas which for sure can't mislead or ofense anyone. It's a book for teenagers, not little children who need to be told precisely what is good and what is bad being incapable of judging by themselves.
From the other hand, I really like comment of The Smol Moth. What struck me in this book was distorting historical actuality to show how badass and arrogant was the heroine. If she hadn't have plot armor she would have been punished for her arrogancy.
She wasn't brave and confident, she was just stupid but lucky.
Thank you for expressing how I too felt about this book. I gave up halfway through, which I rarely do.
I’m almost halfway through and the dialogue is also bothering me. I expected everyone to talk like they’re from the times the book is set in😭but Lou talks like me when I was 15
Thanks for describe the book exactly how it is.Is worrying that minors read this book and believe that romance is like in this story.
I was desperate every time I read and "He/She rolled her/his eyes" and other poor/cliche structured sentences.
Lou is UNBEARABLE, like a teenager angry at society for no reason, just an edgy stereotype of teenager.
Reid is big a red flag: Murderer, Jealousy, Possesive, obsessive- compulsive with religion and rules... Ah!!
There is no love here hahaha
I feel your review is spot on for me! I also couldn’t understand how Reid never figured out she was a witch. Like duh! It was also predictable at times.
I also agree with Lou’s diction being out of place. I couldn’t really figure out what time the story was taking place in?
Reid’s reaction as well to her being a witch was a bit over the top and didn’t go with the heavy ‘L’ he was experiencing prior.
I found his character stubborn and annoying; it made it hard to like him.
thank you so much for this ❤️ all this booktok nonsense... I love world building, I prefer it... The lack of it after promising it, meeeh



