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Moll Flanders by Daniel Defoe
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Style-wise, this classic novel isn’t the easiest book for the 21st century reader. In period fashion Defoe goes in for many long, long sentences, full of commas and semi-colons. Some of them stretch to an entire page. In terms of vocabulary though, it’s remarkable how little English has changed in 300 years.

The book is supposed to have been written by the central character, who goes by the name “Moll Flanders”, though we’re not told what her real name is. Moll looks back on her life as she approaches the age of 70, and the book ends with the words “written in 1683”. I’d always thought of Moll Flanders as a character in an 18th century world, but had she been a real person she would have lived through the English Civil War, Cromwell, and the Restoration. Although none of those events feature in the book, that is the world we should think of when we picture the setting.

One feature of the 17th century was the lack of bureaucracy. For example, Moll’s second husband is a gambler and wastrel who flees to France to escape his creditors. Moll then moves house, assumes a new name and marries again – as simple as that. A lack of bureaucracy has pros and cons though. If you ran out of money in 17th century England there was no government to send you a social security cheque. Throughout the novel, Moll’s actions are motivated by one fear.

“I had the terrible prospect of poverty and starving, which lay on me as a frightful spectre…”


She continually calculates how much money she has. Conventionally the story is one of moral decline and redemption. I think it’s possible to interpret the ending another way, but will avoid saying more for fear of spoilers. The book is also a commentary on the position of women in early modern England, and the lack of opportunities open to them. As an innocent teenager Moll is seduced by the flattery and false promises of a wealthy young man. At this stage she is sinned against rather than sinner, but as her life progresses she gradually becomes hard hearted and calculating, deliberately using her looks to manipulate men. When the man who becomes her fifth husband starts to court her, she comments how:

“I played with this lover as an angler does with a trout.”


Moll uses what she has to get men to transfer their wealth to her. On one occasion she is picked up by a wealthy gent:

“Would such gentlemen but consider the contemptible thoughts which the very women they are concerned with, in such cases as these, have of them…when he is, as it were, drunk in the ecstasies of his wicked pleasure, her hands are in his pockets searching for what she can find there…”


As Moll gets older she can no longer rely on her looks, and turns to a life of crime. By this point she has almost entirely lost her sense of right and wrong. To most modern readers, her life of borderline prostitution is not as shocking as it might have been in Defoe’s time, but other aspects of her behaviour are more so. She has several children by her various husbands but with one exception they disappear from the text almost as soon as they are mentioned. As far as I could tell Moll simply abandons them.

Worth a read if you are interested in the classics.
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Reading Progress

July 16, 2020 – Started Reading
July 16, 2020 – Shelved
July 17, 2020 –
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July 21, 2020 –
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July 24, 2020 –
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July 29, 2020 –
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July 31, 2020 – Shelved as: classics
July 31, 2020 – Shelved as: england
July 31, 2020 – Shelved as: fiction
July 31, 2020 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by J.C. (new)

J.C. If this is a real book I might ask to borrow it!


message 2: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian J C wrote: "If this is a real book I might ask to borrow it!"

A Kindle book unfortunately...


message 3: by Dmitri (new)

Dmitri Great! Thank you. I want to read this. Sure Moll Flanders is a familiar name, but how many people now know the story. But I didn't really catch you reservations about the story.


message 4: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Dmitri wrote: "Great! Thank you. I want to read this. Sure Moll Flanders is a familiar name, but how many people now know the story. But I didn't really catch you reservations about the story."

Thanks Dimitri! I thought the story itself was really good. My only reservation in recommending the book to others is around the archaic writing style, and the interminably long sentences. In the example below, Moll is speaking to one of her husbands, a highwayman who is facing the prospect of transportation to Virginia:

"I told him he frighted and terrified himself with that which had no terror in it; that if he had money, as I was glad to hear he had, he might not only avoid the servitude supposed to be the consequence of transportation, but begin the world upon a new foundation, and that such a one as he could not fail of success in, with the common application usual in such cases; that he could not but call to mind that is was what I had recommended to him many years before and had proposed it for our mutual subsistence and restoring our fortunes in the world; and I would tell him now, that to convince him both of the certainty of it and of my being fully acquainted with the method, and also fully satisfied in the probability of success, he should first see me deliver myself from the necessity of going over at all, and then that I would go with him freely, and of my own choice, and perhaps carry enough with me to satisfy him that I did not offer it for want of being able to live without assistance from him, but that I thought our mutual misfortunes had been such as were sufficient to reconcile us both to quitting this part of the world, and living where nobody could upbraid us with what was past, or we be in any dread of a prison, and without agonies of a condemned hole to drive us to it; this where we should look back on all our past disasters with infinite satisfaction, when we should consider that our enemies should entirely forget us, and that we should live as new people in a new world, nobody having anything to say to us, or we to them."

Phew!


message 5: by Beata (new)

Beata Superb review, Ian :)) I must've read it during my university days, however, don't remember too much ...


message 6: by Cookie M. (new)

 Cookie M. This might be one I would have an easier time with as a audio book. I find that helps me with a lot of hard to grasp classics.


message 7: by Mikey B. (new)

Mikey B. Ian wrote: "Dmitri wrote: "Great! Thank you. I want to read this. Sure Moll Flanders is a familiar name, but how many people now know the story. But I didn't really catch you reservations about the story."

Th..."


Phew is RIGHT!! my head was spinning about mid-way through!!!

Excellent review


message 8: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Beata wrote: "Superb review, Ian :)) I must've read it during my university days, however, don't remember too much ..."

Thanks Beata! Surely your university days weren't very long ago? (Says he gallantly...)


message 9: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Ann-Marie wrote: "This might be one I would have an easier time with as a audio book. I find that helps me with a lot of hard to grasp classics."

Good thinking Ann-Marie. An audiobook might be a good choice with this one.


message 10: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Mikey B. wrote: "Ian wrote: "Dmitri wrote: "Great! Thank you. I want to read this. Sure Moll Flanders is a familiar name, but how many people now know the story. But I didn't really catch you reservations about the..."

Thanks Michael. Yes, I had to force myself to pay attention when I encountered sentences like that.


message 11: by Tristram (new) - added it

Tristram Shandy I find it very interesting that Moll Flanders is so obsessed with poverty and the wish to avoid it because this struggle for survival and the resulting mania of keeping stock of one's possessions is also a theme in Defoe's Robinson Crusoe.


message 12: by Elliot (new)

Elliot Interesting review, Ian. My own limited exposure to writing from the 17th and 18th centuries leads me to agree with your first paragraph--the style, not the vocabulary, is the problem for us modern readers.


message 13: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Tristram wrote: "I find it very interesting that Moll Flanders is so obsessed with poverty and the wish to avoid it because this struggle for survival and the resulting mania of keeping stock of one's possessions i..."

That is interesting! I've never the original version of Robinson Crusoe. Perhaps this is revealing of Defoe's own outlook on life? Alternatively, perhaps it reveals a wider obsession, prompted by just how precarious economic life was in the 17th and early 18th centuries?


message 14: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Elliot wrote: "Interesting review, Ian. My own limited exposure to writing from the 17th and 18th centuries leads me to agree with your first paragraph--the style, not the vocabulary, is the problem for us modern..."

Thanks Elliot. Yes, in some ways it's surprising that there haven't been more changes to English in the 300 years since this book was published. A English-speaking member of GR today would have no issues with comprehending this book.


message 15: by Mikey B. (new)

Mikey B. The example you provided also reminded of the "stream of consciousness" that James Joyce brought into vogue.


message 16: by J.C. (new)

J.C. Ian, as, ever, entertaining and edifying! It does sound like my type of book but life's too short for those sentences!


message 17: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Mikey B. wrote: "The example you provided also reminded of the "stream of consciousness" that James Joyce brought into vogue."

Interesting! I've not read Joyce. I was always put off by descriptions of his style!


message 18: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian J C wrote: "Ian, as, ever, entertaining and edifying! It does sound like my type of book but life's too short for those sentences!"

Haha! Nicely put Jeanne!


message 19: by Tristram (new) - added it

Tristram Shandy Ian wrote: "That is interesting! I've never the original version of Robinson Crusoe. Perhaps this is revealing of Defoe's own outlook on life? Alternatively, perhaps it reveals a wider obsession, prompted by just how precarious economic life was in the 17th and early 18th centuries?"

With each of the two of us having read either Moll Flanders or Robinson Crusoe, this is probably too thin an amount of data to draw conclusions on as to Defoe's outlook on life. But it is a starting point to look upon other of his works if ever we are reading any. It reminds me of Hobbes's (another one of my favourites) dictum that life is short, nasty and all those sort of things.


message 20: by Beata (new)

Beata Ian wrote: "Beata wrote: "Superb review, Ian :)) I must've read it during my university days, however, don't remember too much ..."

Thanks Beata! Surely your university days weren't very long ago? (Says he ga..."

It seems like ages, Ian lol :)) I was forced to read the classics for which I am still grateful but there aren't many I reread .. Interestingly, 'Robinson Crusoe' is one of the few I reread three or four times, in Polish or in English. On the other hand, I came to appreciate some more today than at the time of reading ...


message 21: by Elin (new) - rated it 2 stars

Elin Great review and interesting point about it being in the 1600s - I'm reading it at the moment and that hadn't really registered.


message 22: by Ian (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ian Elin wrote: "Great review and interesting point about it being in the 1600s - I'm reading it at the moment and that hadn't really registered."

Thanks you very much!

To be honest I don't think it registered with me until I came to the announcement at the end!


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