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Dangerous Visions by Harlan Ellison
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This daring, ground-breaking, iconoclastic anthology, edited by the great Harlan Ellison, came out in 1967. He encouraged the contributors to push the boundaries, expand the envelope, think the unthinkable and mention sex, religion, politics, sex, sex, and things like that. You know, the kind of stuff you wouldn't normally find in a short story that had passed John W. Campbell's desk on its way to a million pimply teenage SF fans. (Disclaimer: I was one of those fans, even though I wasn't quite a teenager yet).

So, here's one of the shocking, out-of-the-box stories in the collection. It's called Eutopia, and it's a parallel world yarn in which the classical Greeks kept their role as the dominant society on Earth. The hero is this classical Greek guy who's visiting a primitive outpost, and he's got himself into trouble by sleeping with someone he shouldn't have. He's running for his life, making for his time machine or portal or whatever it is so that he can get back home, and thinking that he ought to have had more sense. Why ever did he get involved with this backwoods hick when his lovely Nikki was there at home patiently waiting for him? Now, you'll have guessed there's a twist, and what a twist it is! Wait for it... are you ready... it turns out that Nikki is... A BOY!!! Gasp! Well, those classical Greeks were like that, don't you know?

I thought of this story several times this week while reading Marguerite Yourcenar's Mémoires d'Hadrien, a meticulously accurate reconstruction of the Emperor Hadrian's life which came out sixteen years before Dangerous Visions was published. Yourcenar takes it for granted that Hadrian, like pretty much everyone else of his class and era, was bisexual. She somehow pulls off the amazing feat of presenting his feelings for beautiful young boys in his own terms, without in any way judging him by twentieth century standards. The affair with Antinoüs is one of the most moving sequences in the book.

I can't help feeling there's a moral here. Any suggestions?
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February 5, 2009 – Shelved
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message 1: by Paul (last edited Jan 09, 2011 04:40AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Paul Bryant Memoirs of Hadrian was published in 1951, and DV was published in 1967. Perhaps also germane to this is Last Exit to Brooklyn which contains a major section about homosexuality - that was 1964. I guess one moral is that literary fiction is over there, and science fiction was way way way way way over there, and the SF world did not take much account of the literary world until the New Wave which began circa 1964. DV was part of this new wave, as you say, so perhaps we will not be surprised to see stories in it which break taboos which had been pulverised into dust already by literary authors. The DV taboos were being broken for the first time in SF itself.

That said, I think Theodore Sturgeon got there first anyway - remember A Saucer of Loneliness?


Manny Good grief, you're right. It's just my edition of Hadrien that came out in 1958. As you say, the book was originally published seven years before that. I've amended the review accordingly.

The way the SF world ignored the mainstream until the 60s and the New Wave was indeed rather strange. In retrospect, the shocking thing about Eutopia is that anyone should have been shocked.

And yes, Sturgeon was definitely ahead of the pack...


message 3: by Paul (last edited Jan 09, 2011 07:59AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Paul Bryant When I came back to sf in the mid-90s I was very gratified to read all the beautiful prose stylists like Lucian Shepherd, Gene Wolfe and David Marusek, and I thought that the new wavers of the 60s/70s had done their job well even though at the time they got a whole lot of stick for their trouble.

PS - did you ever check out the story of the non-appearance of DV3? It's a saga!


Manny did you ever check out the story of the non-appearance of DV3? It's a saga!

Just been looking at it. Do you conceivably have a copy of Last Deadloss Visions? It sounds like fun.


message 5: by Paul (last edited Jan 09, 2011 11:48AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Paul Bryant I read it once on the internet - Priest asked for it to be deleted - check out these links - if you know about file types maybe the last of these three will provide you with a copy. i couldn't figure out what type of file it was or even if there actually was one at all.

http://www.islets.net/oddities/booked...

http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/e...

http://eu.than.asia/2009/10/the-last-...


Manny This way madness lies. I'll wait until they turn it into an opera.


message 7: by Scribble (new)

Scribble Orca Filmed, of course.


message 9: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim I've been reading Savage Love since 2005. This weekly "kinky advice column" has made me realize how incredibly diverse sexual orientation and practice is.

Dan Savage also often addresses "plain vanilla" relationship problems.

His most influential lectures address "the problem of monogamy" - worth seeking out on YouTube for some frank perspective on "romantic monogamy".

A deep archive is here:

https://www.thestranger.com/archive/s...


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