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Toss a Bone to Your Lyctor

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I feel like we all moved on way too quickly from Vaggi's prevalent trauma. I really like that it's not pushed away or "cured". Also, seeing Vaggi clutch her hair to both comfort and punish herself is so heartbreaking. And I adore that Charlie redirects her anger at Carmilla, even realizing that she was in the wrong without telling the audience.

With all the problems I personally have with Hazbin Hotel's writing, and the second season's plotlines in general, one of my most favourite choices made was make Vaggie be in charge of the hotel.

Cause yeah, Charlie was the one that kickstarted all of this, but Vaggi was the one that made it survive. If it wasn't for her, Charlie probably wouldnt have had the confidence and courage to follow through- nobody believed in her, but then Vaggi did, and that was enough for Charlie to keep pushing. It's the knowledge that even if everyone was against her, still, there was at least somebody who cared, who "had faith in her", there would be someone still standing not just behind, but beside her and I think that's really sweet, accounting for the fact that before all of this, Charlie was alone. She had nobody to back her up - Lucifer just assumed that Charlie's dreams were just that, idealist dreams that had zero guarantee of happening or at least going well, meanwhile Lilith went MIA. Did she actually have any friends before the hotel, before she met Vaggie?

And plus, let's face it and be real here, Charlie does not have the capacity or at least the qualities that would qualify her to be a good leader.

It's ironic, the fact that at first, you'd think that Vaggie was the follower that simply supported and that the one in charge of things was Charlie herself, but by the end it becomes so much more obvious/apparent that their dynamic works best when Charlie dishes out the ideas and Vaggi executes them. Vaggie's the practical one, she's level-headed, she worked in the military for Christ's sake, so she knows her way around organizing and systematizing things to make them work and fall into a decent flow, she makes up for what Charlie lacks, and in turn, Charlie is the one with enough initiative/creativity to propose the idea in the first place.

I need them to be happy together NOW

everyday i go on the chaggie tag to find cute art and everyday im subjected to dumbass takes instead

Shout out to the doctor who responded with complete sincerity when I (on anesthesia) uttered the phrase “chat are we cooked” in her medical professional vicinity. You’re such a real one for that fr fr

I recently listened to the season 1 commentary track by Viv, Skye (Animation Director) and Sam (Art Director).

There are some general summaries going around already, so I thought I'd do one focused on the Charlie/Vaggi/Chaggie related infos we get to know from it.

Contains: lore, fun facts, behind the scenes info and personal comments from them as well

I might have still missed some things, and it's really fun content in general as well, so I definitely recommend listening to it on your own if you are able to!

Under the cut because the amount of info is pretty uneven per episode, so I wanted to do it all in a single post and it got pretty long.

my favorite bit of trivia omg

Chaggie you are so loved

She was a mother of a 6yo child whose father passed away in 2023. Renee was remarried to a woman - so, to put it bluntly, not only has a child been orphaned by both biological parents, but the possible ramifications of a same-sex stepparent keeping custody amidst all the scrutiny and awful, virulent rhetoric to come makes me nauseous just to think about. Not only will Renee's wife and child need support for therapy and other immediate financial impacts of such a traumatic loss, an ample legal fund may be needed as well. I hope I'm wrong. But in case I'm not, please consider giving as and how you're able.

I love how Staticmoth and Chaggi are in similar yet different places by the end of the season. Vox and Charlie both no longer run their businesses. Their partners do!

The way they got to that point are different. Charlie acknowledges she cant do this alone. They gotta do this together! They communicated through their troubles they had and they're a team.

While Vox thinks he's above the other Vees. He thinks he alone should be God. Cause Vox didn't care how his actions were hurting the ones he loves he now has to face the consequences of that. Now Val is pretending he doesn't know him.

Dont kill me for this opinion 😭

So, you know the ship Chaggi(e) from Hazbin? How its, uh, cannon? Well...

I don't really think the pair has much chemistry in the show.

It's nothing much, they are cute together, but genuinely I can't see how they could be dating with how they just act like really good best friends if you ignore the kissing and them getting busy in s2. I genuinely suffer seeing the pair as an actual couple in the show but I don't have anything against them, I just can't see them actually together even though they are, if that makes since 😭

"they just act like really good best friends if you ignore the kissing and them getting busy" well DUH, that's what happens if you ignore the literal romantic interactions

You "don't have anything against them" but you "suffer" when you see the most vanilla couple in the show?

"if that makes since sense" no it DOES NOT

since ur putting this in the ship tag, im also allowed to think that this is a stupid way to say ur opinion. not necessarily a stupid opinion, but such a dumb explanation says a lot about the kind of person who would say something about an inoffensive ship rather than what chaggie is. Like, tf you mean you "suffer" over them when there's a literal sexual abuser in this show?

There isn't enough appreciation on how much of a yearner Vaggi is. The girl is SMITTEN and it's a shame some gifs cut before showing this move. It's small but so meaningful of their relationship, as Vaggi follows where Charlie goes

The category is woc characters that are done dirty by their writers, sidelined by the fandom for the sake of shipping, or both

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