
STOP the fucking song and back it up to the start we didn't think about the right thing at the right time our head music video is all messed up what the fuck guys come on

STOP the fucking song and back it up to the start we didn't think about the right thing at the right time our head music video is all messed up what the fuck guys come on
Think it's time for more people to realize that being a love interest isn't the only reason why Catwoman has gone stagnant. Writers often want to center her character into how cool she is by pushing a hollow "strong and independent" trope as the peak of empowerment, but this actually dehumanizes her. These white femenenist narratives only reflect a male-centric idea of how a "liberated" woman should think, feel and express if she behaves a certain way towards men— often resulting in a lead whose whole personality revolves around being rude, unexpressive, self-centered and abrasive toward other people (with a fixation with women and children too) under the guise of branding the company and characters as "woke", so ignoring every other important aspect these might have because it disrupts the girlboss persona.
Writers isolate Selina from her own history. Her motivations are subverted by pseudo-feminist rhetoric where she has to be insensitive and reject every kind of emotional reaction and bounds that has been (wrongly) popularized as contrary to feminism, leaching away the grief, trauma, relationships and even damaging the original concept of Catwoman as the protector of those who are vulnerated by a system that gains benefit from their pain, into something completely unrelated. The humanity that is the basics of her. Her real core.
She's supposed to be strong and independent, but she's also still a woman. So even under an alleged 'modern woman representation' point of view, she's still subject to specific stigmatizatism built by a bunch of malegazed stereotypes.
So she has not only been relegated to a girlfriend role when she's close to Batman but also reduced to stereotype in her own comics, sacrificing her complex identity for a shallow marketing tool.
Emotions means submission, insensitiveness means empowerment. Just the concept of being a woman.
so i wanted to talk about the earth 2 batcat marriage and how i think it’s sort of misinterpreted in various ways by the fandom. i don’t think it needs to be completely discarded from the narrative as “traditional values” nor do i think it MUST be inserted into continuity as the perfect happy ending. i logically understand that comics suck and comic book writers suck and there’s 0 room for nuance but i really wish people paid attention to what exactly brave and the bold #197 is about.
this work is written in the late 70s as a period piece of the 50s, and the circumstances for women were probably very different back then. selina has hit a wall in her career as catwoman, and she feels trapped. now selina will never feel this way in the mainline because her thievery needs to be ongoing and nonstop, but why does nobody want to consider why she might feel this way? is stealing always about the thrills and the glamour of it? where is the depth? the toll that a lifestyle like this might take on you? batman gets all this exploration as a HERO as to the toll his life takes on him but selina isn’t entitled to the same depth of exploration as a VILLAIN? i imagine her options for survival were probably far more limited back in the 50s than they ever were now.
selina’s marriage to bruce is actually stupidly practical. we can pretend it’s a grand finale to a grand romance, but really, bruce has always wanted selina to reform so he could be with her. his misogyny has always exhibited itself in his paternalism over her. the power has always been on selina’s end as to when she wants to agree. she’s saying, “i’ve hit a wall and have nowhere to turn. i love you and i’ve come to recognize my mortality.” and he’s saying “ok. whenever you’re ready, i have everything you need to be your safety net. let’s take care of each other.” i don’t think selina NEEDS bruce to take care of herself. i think she’s always been capable of financial independence, which is what her criminality is really about. the story is just a business deal between a woman who now has nothing and a man who has everything and wants to help her get back on her feet. i think there should be contention. an exploration of the power dynamics even in this mode of domesticity. it doesn’t have to be shunned, it has to be written properly so people can see what it actually is.
Seeing this whole situation about Venezuela scaling into Tumblr and having to watch a bunch of first world, privileged people have the worst and dehumanizing takes about it has really reminded me that even outside of Twitter's hellhole, we have never been actually relevant to people.
Seeing that after all, our possibilities of having a better life still depends on whether westerns decide that our situation is or not worth for proving their political ideology, and that even so, our lives are still viewed as less important than a black puddle on the floor.
We are well aware of the consequences of a US invasion, because we, more than anyone, are going to suffer the repercussions if this goes out wrong -and it has the chances to do so-. But I wished that you had this same motivation and energy of demanding the US to back off from our country, to the dictatorships that installed here, killed and displaced thousands of people, instead of getting called weak, dumb and told that we deserved it.
Did you relly think that the dictatorships that have existed for more than 69 years in the continent, and that have spread within the years, wouldn't reach you too eventually? I'm sorry to break it to you, but even if the US didn't come here, you, latinamerican, weren't safe from suffering an invasion to destibilaze your country's economy and sentence you to a life of crisis, because your own government was already on the way of doing so supported by other dictators.
And I am honestly tired of seeing people monopolizing the importance of our situation and, denying and mocking our pain for years. I'm sick of seeing how a humanitarian crisis, which leads the second biggest crisis of diaspora in the world without involving an armed conflict, is still treated by outsiders, strangers to our pain, as a left wing vs right wing issue where both of them want to prove their political point of view through us. I'm done with being seen as a political pawn and not a human.
If you didn't want an US intervention after we tried to avoid for years, blame it on your government who had the possibility of helping this situation but decided to ignore us and be part of the many who leeched from our natural resources that were offered to them at cheap prices. Blame it on your politics who whitened a dictator and called us liars for years. Blame it in your own ignorance for believing that this wouldn't have repercussions on you one way or another until it was too late.
Don't try teach us about something that you didn't have to suffer. Don't try to explain to us how this situation is going to affect us. Stop filling your mouth talking about international rights in a country that is the living proof of its failure.
Reflect about how every single person, how every political and social activist stayed silent, allowed it to reach this situation, and how y'all have abandoned similar countries as Cuba, Nicaragua, Iran and many others, and what's to come to THEM.
I think a lot of women (not all don't at me) like media about gay dudes in big part because they are misogynistic and truly have internalised on some level that stories almost exclusively about men are "better" and they can try and brand it as progressive all they want but at the end of the day a lot of them are doing a slightly gayer version of "oh I'm just not friends with women cos there's so much drama 🙄" and it's incredibly dehumanizing and derogatory to both gay men and women and queer ppl in general because they're essentially doing bio-essentialist sexism with a pride flag and ykw it is fucking weird. it isn't good or progressive to talk about men or women in this way. It isn't feminist or liberationist to talk about gay men the way a child talks about a furby, but choice feminism has led us to a version of reality where women can be incredibly misogynistic, and that's so fine because 1) money in the bank for companies willing to profit off of it and 2) in this framework anything women do is progressive because they can choose it, right? we're in hell. the reason none of these women would go nuts over a lesbian show is because most of them are just misogynists with pride flags
something darwyn cooke always got right about selina is how much of her life revolved around men and what they wanted to do with her. stark, slam, her father, even batman. they never wanted to know her or help her they only wanted to do things to her. they wanted her impassive despite being the star of their desires.
and she knows this and she hates them for it but she still struggles to disentangle herself from these men because being desired is better and often more useful than being alone.
anyways she should've killed those old men.
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Criticism of Son of the demon is of course valid. But you have to admit batcat is barely written well. Despite so much bad material outweighing the good ones, Selina is repeatedly given chances after chances. But other love interests don't get treated the same way, do they? Talia can't be part of Bruce and Damian's life because batcat. What about Vicki Vale or Silver St. Clair or Julie Madison? All of these women can't get a second in the spotlight because DC keeps giving Selina everything and it's because they keep pushing her as a bat family character. No one thinks she's popular enough to demand one solo, let alone two! She barely has enough popularity despite live action and comics pushing her non stop. Other female characters should get their time in the spotlight because yk as well as everyone Selina isn't the only important woman in Bruce's life,she isn't the most interesting either. Her story has been told hundreds of time. Comics should give other women a chance instead of beating a dead horse, like Gunn and Reeves are.
you need to understand that catwoman is one of the most popular female characters in all of pop culture (i mean on halloween she is probably the most referenced dc character), there is a reason why dc always chooses her for example she was the only playable character in arkham city in the actual map of the game, or when they picked her for gotham or for the batman or for animated movies or for the absolute universe or for telltale or for wfa etc etc , it’s because they know she will catch people’s attention, if dc felt like giving those other female characters’ attention that they give catwoman will be a good idea they would have done it, and this isn’t me underestimating any of the other characters, but it’s me being realistic abt dc’s business decisions because at the end of the day they want more money than anything else, and catwoman makes them money. Catwoman is also very interesting and her story isn’t told enough imo, her backstory is very relatable to many women of all ethnicities, and its very endearing and empowering so ofc she will be popular with so many women as well , she is such a powerful character that she broke from that box that dc put her in of only being batman’s love interest even though she was very much over sexualised she still proved herself , also the reason why she works so well with batman more than any other female character is because she is his equal in so many ways.
and from all the characters that do not explicitly wear a bat symbol and have never been his sidekick, she is definitely the most deserving of a spot in the batfam, she isn’t just batman’s love interest but they also care and love each other platonically so i think thats enough to earn her a spot there, and why i like batcat the most is because bruce saying ‘in any universe i love her’ is ACTUALLY meaningful and holds up even irl, because in any universe (gotham, animated movies, different comic universes, games, the batman..etctetc) he actually loves her, and i think that’s rlly cute !
Also proof that she is popular for example her being on the cover of magazines as well as batcat :
And recently :
I'll pass through the whole fact that this anon, who has most likely only read Batcat through TK or Loeb, think that they have the right to speak on the quality of it, because it makes their opinions straight up invalid — you can dislike a ship and a character as much as you want, but you don't have to make up stuff to justify your disgust or use it because you can't take basic criticism. If it's not for you, it's not for you. Let. it. go.
I'm rather going to focus on this so commonly disgusting occurrence of weaponizing other love interests to justify their hatred towards Selina; because I know that if Silver, Vicki, Julia or even Annika Zeller had the same exposure as love interests, they would be hated for taking their preferred girls place too or become a "my favorite character deserves more screentime than yours because *misogynistic text*" type of argument. That's all they care about in the end, and that's the reason this characters are and will remain in stagnant narratives.
Otherwise, the complaint would focus on how all these female character are and will continue to be affected because DC keeps throwing all their importance to being used when they need to be a girlfriend— because that is the same reason phrases as "DC keeps giving Selina everything (as a LI) to push her as a Batfam member" and "Selina isn't important or interesting in Batman's life" were thrown in here; despite always having been her own character, her relevance is only evaluated considerating how much of a good, open minded girlfriend she is.
I spontaneously made a post about Selina being degraded by these fake "I love all female characters" in ship wars a long while ago, lmao.
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