27 year old Paul McCartney writing 'Carry that Weight' not knowing that 'a long time' would be near a lifetime is so fucked actually.
"but we'd loved each other all our lives"
Do you think John would’ve eventually gone bald? He was so hot that even though his hairline kept getting pushed back over the years he still looked gorgeous bless
HELP yeah 😔 i think he would've hated going bald and shaved it off eventually. or had a really bad wig phase for a while. but I would've loved him even bald as hell my sweetie
Possibly the most random poll possible but realised that save pirates of the Caribbean and technically Pyramus, Paul as far as I know has never played anything but himself.
Case for a good actor: Does dead on impressions and bits and is excellent at doing voice work. The persona of Paul McCartney is so entrenched in his public facing role that it needs exorcising to remove, ergo asking him to play the role of 'Paul McCartney' is asking him to play the acting equivalent of Russian nesting dolls and arguably too trippy even for mr psychedelics.
Case for bad actor: Every single movie he's done.
do you think john was still in love with paul even while he was in love with yoko?
mannnnnnn imo it was Complicated and also depended on the year a bit
there's certainly a lot to point to him never fully getting over paul. mostly what proves that to me is the way other people talk about his ongoing obsession with paul. elliot mintz, may pang, john green (however I take anything he says with a huge grain of salt). or that instance of him hearing paul's music and it driving him crazy even though it wasn't actually playing. obviously his obsession with ram. that incident where he yelled that he wished he was back with paul. there Are his lyrics, but I'm a bit at odds with the fandom on john's solo music in that........ I really don't see a lot of damning evidence in his lyrics and so so many of the songs that get attributed to being about paul can very easily be about may or yoko. so they don't stick out to me as proof he was still in love with him necessarily
but I think like just based on what I know about john and what I know about bpd (which I would genuinely be shocked if he didn't have) there were a few things going on. I don't think it's an easy pill to swallow for people who don't have bpd, but I do think he kind of dropped paul entirely from his mind for a while there. unless he was brought up, which he frequently was, which made it more complicated. but the thing is, with bpd you've got your Favorite Person. you obsess over them, you could talk to them forever and never get bored, no one else matters to you. and at least for me, once someone loses that status of being your favorite person it's very hard for them to get it back. it's like you topple them from that position and if you don't feel outright anger and resentment, you feel nothing at all. and I think with paul, he lost that status somewhere along the way rather slowly and I think john felt a little unmoored without it and it was incredibly easy and necessary for yoko to fill that role in his mind instead.
but like I said it's not that easy when you keep getting reminded of someone. and for john that was constant. he was always dealing with paul even when they weren't talking. their names were linked together forever and beyond That, he had to hear paul's music constantly and see his face everywhere. I think that pissed him off a great deal when he was still mad at/splitting on paul because he didn't want to still have to be thinking about him at all
I honestly don't think may ever reached Favorite Person status with john like yoko still seemed to occupy that space in his mind (kind of purposefully so) for a long time, though he was definitely very fond of may and loved her in a different capacity. but like paul, I don't think that lasted with yoko forever either. he was in that same kind of unmoored place in the mid/late 70s after sean was born too I think, where he didn't Have a favorite person anymore. and I think during That his mind probably started drifting back to paul more in retrospect. the rose tinted glasses had fallen off with yoko and gave him some more room to think about his past relationships and get nostalgic about it.
I don't think the sort of love they had for each other ever truly leaves someone, so I think he was always a bit in love with paul his whole life. but I don't think it was necessarily something he dwelled on a ton in the 70s. I mean he dwelled on paul a lot. but not really, imo, in this pining way. more so an obsession he just wasn't admitting to himself was more than petty jealousy.
I think the point where he Was still most in love with them both in any sort of equal manner was when they were still in the beatles together, but he'd already started devaluing that relationship with paul in his mind to a point where I think if anyone had Asked him in 1969 he would've said no because he knew what Real love with yoko was now. I think he would've said the same about cyn. but it was a devaluation to make room for this new all consuming love in his mind and thus nothing before it could've possibly felt as good or been as much. this new thing with yoko had to be Everything he had never had before.
JOHN FUCKING LENNON WHY AND FOR WHAT Hong Kong TV & Entertainment Times' Aug 1984
“Paul is my favourite musician. He plays great and is so supportive. I have other bass players on my records too, and I say to each one of them, “You’re my second favourite bass player.”” — Ringo Starr “It’s family. Sometimes we get pissed off at each other. I’ll want something from him and he won’t give it to me, and I’ll get pissed off. But then it passes. Brothers fight sometimes. There’s this revisionist history that it was all John and Paul. But it was four corners of a square; it wouldn’t have worked without one of the sides. Ringo was the right angle.” — Paul McCartney
THIS IS MY SHIT TURN IT UPPP OMG MY BABIES ILL CRY
I don’t even have the words to express how this makes me feel oh my god
Hi!I’m new to the Beatles (especially Mclennon) fandom and I just wanted to say that your posts have been incredibly helpful and insightful!
While doing some reading on my own, I came across information about Paul’s second marriage to Heather Mills, which ended quite badly. I have to admit, I find it somewhat unsettling that he entered that relationship so soon after Linda’s death. Of course, it’s entirely possible that he was grieving deeply and needed someone to fill that void, but when I encounter comments like “he simply didn’t love her enough,” I find it hard to completely dismiss them. Plus, there’s the Linda tapes, which he reportedly bought from Peter Cox for a very high price (I read about this in a news article). Heather’s accusations of abuse are another troubling aspect. While the judge ruled her testimony unreliable, the absence of definitive proof doesn’t necessarily mean that nothing happened. Given Paul’s heavy drinking and marijuana use, I don’t think the possibility of violence can be ruled out. There are rumors that Paul abused Linda as well (mentally/physically).
And Peter Cox again, he described Paul as unhappy, frustrated, suspicious of other people’s motives, which feels a bit unsettling as well. Peter also provided this classic Mclennon line “he always talks about John in the present tense”, which I find both deeply moving and heartbreaking. Actually I have no doubt of Paul’s love for John. I believe that he loved (and hated, since they had a complicated relationship) him as an equal, and still loves him now. With Linda, though, I sometimes feel their relationship was somewhat unbalanced. In a sense, it can feel as though he “used” her, not necessarily in a malicious way, and perhaps understandably given the times, but it still feels a bit disturbing to me, if that makes sense. After all, Paul has always been very careful about preserving his public image and, unlike John, rarely admitted his flaws openly. We all know how awful John could be at times. But the possibility that Paul might be far worse than he appears is unsettling, because it inevitably makes people wonder how much he has chosen to hide.
So I was wondering if you’d be willing to share your perspective on Paul’s marriages with Linda and Heather. If you don’t mind, I’d also love to hear your thoughts on Peter Cox’s description of Paul’s character. (I’ve read about your posts about Paul and Linda, but could you please elaborate a bit? And I haven’t seen many discussions of Paul and Heather on this platform, so I’d be especially interested in your thoughts there)
I'm always a bit reluctant to talk about Paul's (or John's) marriages for many reasons, but here we go.
Yes, I definitely think Paul rushed into marrying Heather, even though I don’t doubt he had feelings for her. He was still grieving Linda very deeply when he married her; Heather herself has said so. It’s also been reported that he didn’t remove his wedding ring from his marriage to Linda until shortly before the wedding. When Howard Stern asked Paul why he remarried so quickly, he answered along the lines of, “Maybe I just like being married”. It seems clear to me that after nearly thirty years with Linda, he was someone who didn’t want to be alone. I can understand that, but at the same time, he ignored a lot of red flags. His children didn’t like Heather at all, and James has said that this created a serious rift between them and that he went years without speaking to his father because of it. There's also an account from a resort staff describing arguments between Paul and Heather (this was some time before the wedding). They said they heard them arguing loudly, Paul yelled, "I don't want to marry you!!", and Heather reportedly threw her engagement ring out the window. The next morning she sent some staff to look for it, claiming it was an accident. So their relationship already seemed volatile before the marriage even happened. As for Heather’s later allegations of abuse: the judge in the divorce proceedings explicitly ruled her testimony unreliable. On top of that, several people who knew her have publicly described her as someone who lied frequently, even about minor things (one of them said that if Heather told him it was raining, he still had to go outside and check if it was true). Because of this I personally find her allegations difficult to accept at face value. That said, since none of us were present in their private life, I can’t claim absolute certainty either.
Regarding Heather’s claim that Paul physically abused Linda, I don’t find that credible at all. When those allegations surfaced, Stella reportedly reacted very angrily, screaming, "That fucking bitch!!", and Linda’s close friends have said these claims upset them deeply, since Linda confided in them about personal matters and never described Paul like that. That doesn’t prove anything definitively, of course, but it suggests the claim doesn’t align with what those closest to her believed. That said, I do think Paul and Linda had a turbulent marriage at times. Both of them, many times, described their relationship as “volatile,” “up and down,” and said that "marriage wasn't a sweet subject at all". Paul even said that if anyone had looked at their marriage at any point over the years, they would have thought that it wouldn’t last (and Linda added, "it still might not last"). In Many Years From Now, Paul said that it was a miracle they made it. After Linda’s death, Paul spoke openly about feeling haunted by memories of arguments and moments where he felt he “wasn’t so nice,” and he sought therapy to "get rid of his guilt". Knowing Paul’s tendency to understate things, those comments suggest their conflicts could sometimes be intense and emotionally painful — not physical abuse, but serious arguments that left a mark on both of them. This is also why I tend to take Peter Cox’s perspective seriously, particularly because he knew them during the late 80s and early 90s, a period when their relationship was especially strained (and this was the time when Paul and Linda would often talk about their marriage using the terms I just mentioned). Peter describes Linda as feeling frustrated and emotionally worn down, and he recalled visiting the house and sometimes finding Linda in tears. So it’s possible the tapes reflected those difficulties — not physical abuse, but the emotional exhaustion of a marriage going through a difficult phase (and Paul obviously didn't want them to be made public during the media circus of his divorce from Heather). Over the years, there have also been second-hand claims (including from people active in the old Rec.Music.Beatles community) that Paul and Linda sometimes lived separately under the same roof during rough patches. We can’t verify that with certainty, but given how openly they described the ups and downs of their marriage, it doesn’t seem impossible (there's an interview where Paul was asked if it was true that they never spent a night a part besides his jail time in Japan, and Paul said, "Well, it isn't quite like that"). Paul has often been described by people who worked with or knew him as intense, moody, often controlling, resistant to criticism, and deeply driven — qualities that can be very difficult in a marriage, especially during the emotionally difficult period after John’s death. I can easily imagine how all of that put pressure on their relationship. Even so, I don’t doubt that Paul and Linda loved each other very deeply (even Peter Cox said so). They had a long-lasting marriage and a close-knit family, something extremely rare in celebrity life. Their relationship wasn’t a fairy-tale — it was real, flawed, sometimes painful, and also profoundly committed and enduring.
Now, about what you said regarding Paul “using” Linda. I don’t really like that word, but I do think it’s undeniable that part of the reason he moved on with her so quickly, and married her not that long after they began dating seriously, was at least partly a reaction to John being with Yoko. Paul himself said that he and John “spurred each other into marriage,” and that he felt left out when John became so intensely involved with Yoko. Maggie has also recalled that around this time Paul suddenly seemed desperate to settle down, which likely had a lot to do with John being with Yoko. Emotionally, Paul was in a very vulnerable and unstable place in 68–69, dating several women at once. So although I don’t doubt he genuinely liked Linda and did have feelings for her already at that time, I don’t think he was in an emotionally steady enough state to experience a mature, grounded kind of love yet. And even Paul didn’t seem fully sure about marrying her. His behavior in the days before the wedding really reflects that. Paul has also admitted recently that he didn’t really know Linda when they got married. And If you look at interviews from Paul in the mid-60s, he often sounded uncertain about marriage in general; he said he didn’t know whether he would ever settle down. Even though he proposed to Jane, both of them clearly had doubts, and their relationship had a lot of unresolved issues. Paul wasn’t ready to commit yet, and he also likely understood that marriage would affect his relationship with John in a significant way. John and Paul did seem to "use" their partners, in a sense, as emotional weapons against each other — a way of saying, “Look, I have someone else now.” You can see that dynamic reflected in “Too Many People,” especially in the last verse:"That was your last mistake,I found my love awake,I’m waiting to be —Now what can be done for you? She’s waiting for me." So yes, their marriages were absolutely entangled with their emotional games. That said, I’d genuinely like to hear more about why you think Paul “used” Linda, since you didn’t elaborate, and why you see their relationship as unbalanced. I do have my own opinions about that, but I’d rather understand your reasoning first and then see whether I agree.
As for Peter Cox’s description of Paul — parts of it do sound exaggerated, and you can see that he genuinely doesn't like Paul, but things like Paul’s eyes looking “dead inside,” his moodiness, and Linda repeatedly saying he was a “very frustrated man” (without elaborating) are consistent with the emotional state Paul was in after John’s death. This is one of the reasons why the 80s and early 90s seem to have been such a difficult period in their marriage. I’ve talked before about how many of Paul’s interviews from that time reflect unresolved grief. Like you mentioned, Peter Cox said Paul often talked about John in the present tense — and that happened the very first day he met Paul and Linda. Paul took him for a walk around the garden and just started talking about John non-stop: “John says this… John thinks that…” Paul later admitted in the 90s that he had "tried to pretend John hadn’t died" (and he brought this up completely unprompted. The interviewer was asking about something else, yet Paul just drifted there emotionally). That kind of unresolved grief clearly affected his behavior and absolutely took a toll on his marriage. Around that same time, Bob Spitz visited Paul and asked when he missed John the most — and Paul couldn’t even answer. He just broke down. Spitz said he believed John’s death killed a part of Paul, and honestly I don’t doubt that at all. So the change in Paul’s demeanor in the 1980s makes sense in that context, and I think that’s largely what Peter Cox was observing.
Now on to Paul’s personality. Paul himself admitted that unlike John, he didn’t like talking about his "warts", and that for much of the 50s and 60s he basically thought of himself as “without flaws.” I don’t really understand the idea you mentioned, of wondering “how much he chose to hide” — of course he didn’t air every personal flaw or emotional issue publicly. Most people wouldn’t, especially not celebrities. Those traits are revealed more through what others who knew him personally have said. And indeed, while many people who know him have described him as considerate, kind, polite, driven, and a genius, many others have said he's short-tempered, suspicious of other people’s motives, careless, controlling, not tolerating criticism, and surprisingly insensitive at times. People who worked with him have said they were sometimes afraid to be honest because Paul could react sharply. One person said that when he mildly criticized a vocal take, Paul snapped back, “When did you write your last number one?” Geoff Emerick also said Paul took offense easily. Someone with that temperament can be very difficult to live with, especially in a marriage.
So those are my thoughts, based on what we know and what we can reasonably infer. Paul is neither the saint nor some sinister figure, just a complicated person whose relationships reflected both his strengths and his flaws. And of course, part of that complexity comes from the fact that he never truly recovered from John’s loss; their bond, and the grief that followed, remained a constant presence in his life and affected many aspects of it, including his demeanor and his relationships with other people. He’s also someone who, when he's in an emotionally vulnerable state, has a tendency to move fast instead of slowing down — this pattern is apparent in how John’s relationship with Yoko pushed him toward marriage, and again when he married Heather while still grieving Linda, because he didn’t want to be alone.
Adventures in Beatles archiving - Real Life/Stepping Out Demo
I've been uploading lots of material to be McLennon Internet Archive, set up by @st-johns-wood and @undying-love, both because I support the project and because I want Beatles material in general to be available on a widely accessible, longterm digital archive. So many platforms are vulnerable to just disappearing and with them all the audio, film, photos and text people have spent years collating. I'm a digital archivist by trade so doing this work in my spare time is very easy for me.
One thing I love about archiving is how much you find out about the subject in question in the process, and this is no different. I'm discovering tons of context for some of my favourite photos, clips and audio. One in particular that I've learned more about is the demo John recorded in either 1977 or 1980 (more on that later!) known colloquially in the fandom as "lalala farm". Below is an account my journey finding out more about this demo, join me!
Update on dating! Following further research, I think the date of 1980 for this recording, as opposed to 1977, is fairly certain. Peter Doggett's book "The Art and Music of John Lennon" (first published 1990), which goes through all John's recordings including home demos, dates Take 1 to the first half of 1980. The main discrepancy with Mintz is Doggett dates it to before John went to Bermuda in summer 1980, whie Mintz dates both takes during the Bermuda trip. I've updated the Published Date on the archive and the metadata to reflect this, and added the relevant excerpt from Doggett's book to the file. I've kept abluefoxinawildwood's newspaper clippings and still refer to their research in the metadata because it may still be relevant and should be accessible into the future.
The McLennon Files on the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/@the_mclennon_files?sort=-date
Adventures in Beatles Archiving: Sunday Mirror news story about The Beatles from Apple booklet
I mentioned in my update to the "Whose minutes are crumbling away?" post that I was going to post an article from the Sunday Mirror, describing the Beatles from Apple booklet "annotated" by John in 1971 and sold at auction in 1983 and 1986. Images of the article, from 4 September 1983, are below, along with my transcription. Because the image from newspapers.com wasn't photographed very well - a lot of words are lost in the crease - I've put words I guessed in square brackets, as well as a few corrections (MMT was released December 1967, not 1968, for example).
The article confirms that John wrote "The minutes are crumbling away" over a photo of himself and Yoko, not him and Paul, as also suggested by the 1986 Observer article. The Associated Press article that claimed it was on a photo of John and Paul seems to have made an error.
There are lots of John comments mentioned in this article I hadn't heard about before - accusing Paul of plagiarising Yoko in "Oh Woman Oh Why?" is an, er, interesting one, as well as snark about his A levels and John's crankiness that Pattie's attendance at Oh! Calcutta was deemed worth writing about, lol.
This article, along with the other news stories about the booklet and a few images, are preserved in the McLennon Files archive.
Thanks to anon who found this article for me - I am in your debt! <3
Sunday Mirror, 4 September 1983
By Jean Carr
The songs they sang were of love and peace. But for John Lennon, the years of Beatlemania were often filled with bitterness and anger.
The Fab Four they might have been. But Lennon had no doubt who was Number One - himself.
His jealousy of Paul McCartney was intense and burning. His bitterness at the other Beatles, who he felt neglected his second wife, Yoko Ono, was just as strong.
The depth of Lennon’s feelings and his true thoughts about the Beatles are revealed in a sensational document which has just come to light. The facts are contained in his own words scrawled inside the pages of a black and white booklet, The Beatles from Apple.
The booklet was published in 1971 by the Apple Company, the business once owned by the Beatles.
It includes photographs and biographies of all four Beatles and a diary of major events in their lives.
John Lennon’s personally altered copy was sold by Sotheby’s, the London auctioneers, on Thursday for £9,000 to an anonymous buyer.
The most telling entry in the book is the page at the beginning where Lennon has numbered the names of the four Beatles below their photograph [actually on the cover under a photo of fruit].
He lists himself as No.1, Paul 2, George Harrison 3 and Ringo Starr 4.
First break
Incredibly, he marks out March 1964 - the publication date of his book John Lennon In His Own Write - as his “first breakaway” from the group.
This was the year the Beatles topped the record charts with I Want to Hold Your Hand.
Lennon’s handwritten comments and alterations were made with red, brown and green felt tip pens with the occasional scribble in black ballpoint.
The largest lettering is in red ink, as if written in anger as Lennon first flicked through the book.
On the back page Lennon, who obviously feels more mention should have been made of Yoko, has scrawled in capital size red letters: “Where is my wife. All these events were done with her you blind, deaf, reactionary bastards.”
The comments in green and brown ink are neater and smaller, perhaps added at a later date in a calmer mood when he brooded over events recorded in the book.
Referring to the release of Paul McCartney’s record “Another Day/Oh Woman, Oh Why,” Lennon ringed the words “Oh Why” and added the following postscript “What an interesting title, not unlike Yoko’s ‘Why’. Do you think little Paulie was trying to loosen up in the studio and it sounds just like it. (In fact it nearly always sounded phoney).”
Below two cartoon drawings of George Harrison and Ringo Starr he has penned “2 Virgins Apple held back.”
On one formal picture of all four Beatles posed around an ornate garden well [from the Mad Day Out shoot], he writes “Staged photo - pretending to be fab four, all waiting stoned for it to be over.”
Most intriguing of all is a pensive photograph of Lennon and Yoko taken around the time of their marriage in 1969. Over it, John [has] poignantly written “The minutes are crumbling away.”
Lennon saves his [unclear word] comments, usually in red ink, for Paul McCartney. The jealousy [is] fully obvious.
The biographical [details for] Paul record that he [got] one ‘A’ level and [number] ‘O’ level GCE exams. [Lennon] comments: “He’s been a good little [unclear word] baby face.”
Personal [notes]
More disturbing [is Lennon’s] reaction to the [entry on] Paul’s 1969 marriage to Linda Eastman.
Lennon has scored [out] the word “Marriage” [and] inserted “funeral”.
While for the [diary] that reads “1971, [June] 20, Paul and Linda [leave for] America”, Lennon has [waspishly] added the [comment] “whoopee.”
An entry for 27 [July 1970] records the attendance of George Harrison’s [wife Pattie] in the London [newspaper?] of the review of Oh! [Calcutta], featuring a Lennon [scene].
Lennon has [furiously] scribbled alongside [in [colour] ink] “As if her going was more important [than] the fact I wrote [a scene]….bastards at Apple.”
Some of the [word] details in Lennon’s biographical notes also upset him. He changed the entry that his mother died on 15 July 1958 to “killed by an off-duty cop drunk.”
And ringing the entry recording his 1968 divorce from his first wife Cynthia, he has added: “He and Cynthia divorced - I didn’t do it alone.”
He dates 26 December, 1968 [actually 1967] - the premiere of the Beatles TV film Magical Mystery Tour - as the start of his “anti-Beatle” period.
He didn’t have to wait long for results. Three years later, almost to the very day, Paul McCartney sued to dissolve the Beatles.
Starting off 2026 thinking about Linda McCartney but not in the fun way you think it would be.
reading linda talk about how she didn't want that many kids and how she "has" to take care of the kids, cook the meals, learn music, and decorate their Entire new house and how she doesn't have time for photography anymore and how she has no friends that aren't paul and her children all with a smile and like this is what she so wants to be doing............... can we get her out let her out please god let her out






