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perpetual work in progress dc comics bats (dick and tim best bros ♥), yj '98 current events, various fandoms, miscellany I subscribe to the classic Don't Like, Don't Read / Ship and Let Ship / YKINMKATO school of fandom

"I don't care what costume he wears, he's not Tim"

Dick, you can't just dump Damian with Tim's team and expect them to just accept him. Especially after Tim told them all about him. Like, what did you expect??

actually y'know what I want this in the body of the post

ngl I always have to scream a little into my hands about this. dick wanting damian to have friends/support/the trust and family he found as a teen titan - yes understandable. shoving him onto a titans team where fully half the roster are tim's oldest friends: what what WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? 😱

good intentions on dick's part but questionable decision-making imo. like it turned out alright fortunately but woof. if you think damian could use more trusted friends then identify some people you think could work and approach them in particular - like raven or rose who you have a rapport with already and know might understand damian's difficult background. don't just toss him on a team and expect tim's friends to help socialize him. that shouldn't be their responsibility, and it's unfair to damian to throw him into a group that is going to be biased against him

it's impressive cassie/kon/bart held it together like they did tbh like they were actually pretty neutral to damian's face. the few pointed comments were very tame. and actually damian was also pretty restrained (for him) except for right at the start, I don't fault any of them tbh

separately I do also find kinda yikes the implication that dick might not have even chatted with tim about this whole idea in advance? re: tim's “damian what are you doing there?” and damian's “I… it was grayson's idea” when tim called the tower.

like dick. did you learn nothing about communicating with your family 😭 why are you letting tim get surprised like this again. this is how you get readers who come away with the idea that dick is clueless and/or inconsiderate during this period smh.

tim was remarkably chill about it actually and it did work out fine but oooohhhh it could have blown up in so many ways, I just wince at dick every single time

something that i love about dickdonnaroy is that i think at one time or another they have all put each other in the torment nexus by forcing one person to be the go-between for the remaining two. dick as weary donnaroy relationship counselor. donna having to conduct full scale investigations into dickroy weirdness. roy loudly proclaiming he’s not getting in the middle of Wonder Twins World War 3, except he has to keep talking to both of them, so he already is

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okay but imagine people being baffled by dickroy & donnakory because everyone's like "don't you get jealous? you're dating your best friend's ex?" meanwhile donna & dick are texting each other saying shit like "kory looked radiant like the sun today" and dick is saying "so true" and donna is saying "dick, it's no good to anyone if your emergency medical contact is always sharing the hospital room with you. do you even know how long it took us to get here" and dick is telling her "but he said i was afraid of commitment. me, donna!" and kory is saying "honey, you are" and dick is grumbling "well, fine, you can say that but roy can't" and roy is livetexting donna dick's recovery-induced-breakdown saying "today, he solved 4 cold cases before i had to bring out the big guns" and donna replies "aw! kory says lian looks like a flower on tamaran" and kory is texting dick "do you think donna will believe me if i say i burned terry's old sweatshirt by accident" and dick says "i'll come over and take the blame for free. fuck terry"

Wait okay but #1 UNC(LE)WING is so fucking underrated that shit is ridiculous.

Not only was Dick the guy that helped Roy get Lian back in the first place,

Which led to a frankly unreasonable amount of cat fights with Roy’s ex over Roy and Lian,

And Dick actually being the guy to retrieve Lian against all probable odds (not only the fact that he literally had to move heaven and earth to get her but the “I never thought you’d help me after I lied to you” 😭 😭)

And not only did Dick literally go to Ireland with Roy to help him figure shit out,

But like… look at him.

That man’s an unc. No question. No debate. Uncwing is canon.

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do we ever see heroes show up to seek help from friends/colleagues only to stop short and try to heel-turn bc oops they're clearly injured? because that would be hilarious, like

Donna (stepping out of a portal into Dick's apartment): Dick, you have to help, there's aliens--

Dick (sitting on his couch in sweats eating ice cream, a cast encasing one arm): .....

Donna: oh, I'm sorry, you rest honey, we'll just--

Dick (vaulting over the back of the couch to go get suited up): not a chance, I can do this whole song and dance one-handed, gimme the debrief

Donna: no no, we can handle it, really--

Dick (wrestling to get on a custom suit that's clearly been modified to work around a goddamn full-arm cast): so these aliens, are they like Gordanians or Apokoliptans or--

Donna: :/

@readsalot1, Kory's always picking Dick up and making off with him, lol, but I was thinking specifically of Tales of the Teen Titans #56 for this one:

Dick: We've got to find them and stop them before they find whoever it was they came for. Kory: We'll find them. You rest. You were hurt. Dick: I'll be fine. Kory (grabs Dick by his DiscoWing collar and yoinks him into the air, flying off): No! We're doing this my way! I know you. You'd march into hell with two broken legs and two broken arms. Donna: Kory's right, but we need Dick.
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Titans 2025 Annual #1

Tales of the Teen Titans #50

[ID: a panel showing Robin Dick and Wonder Girl Donna walking together with their arms wrapped around each others. End ID]

[Plain text: Titans 2025 Annual 1. End PT]

[ID: a panel showing Dick walking Donna down the aisle with their arms in the same position. End ID]

[Plain text: Tales of the Teen Titans #50. End PT]

1980's inspired Teen Titans

Here's some fun Teen Titans redesigns I did for the heck of it. I'm still working on Blackfire, and I am hoping to get around to some of the others. I know the roster of characters I have right now doesn't make any particular type of sense. But I just started drawing the characters that I like to draw and let it grow from there :)

Dick Grayson and Donna Troy: Platonic Soulmates

"Were you ever in love with him?" "Romantically? No. But I love him as one of my dearest friends." -New Teen Titans (1980) #28
"Donna's face quavered as I remembered when we first teamed up. I could have fallen easily in love with her then. Now, years later, I knew I did love her, more than I ever could if I were only her lover." -New Teen Titans (1980) #38
"Donna, we've gone through so much together, and in not all that many years. Yet I feel as if I've known and loved you all my life." -Tales of the Teen Titans (1984) #50
"Donna and I were thirteen when we became best friends. I remember after her first date she called me to gossip about it. Later she helped me get past my breakups with Carol and Joanie. And I sat up all night with her after David and Lee. Now she's having a baby." -New Titans (1988) #89
"So, do you remember? The first person who made your cheeks burn? It was Donna, wasn't it?" "Donna? Why does everyone think we were an item?" "Maybe because of the way you smile every time you say her name." "I love her. I've probably always loved her. But she's almost like a sister to me. Someone I somehow always knew rather than someone I discovered. She never made my breath catch so much as...well...she almost made it easier to breathe." -Nightwing Secret Files (1999)
"Dick...I love you for this." "Well, the feeling's mutual." -Wonder Woman (1987) #165
[Dick silently looks on as Bruce and Diana have a conversation about Donna's death] "I should have been there to protect her. I should've sensed that she needed me. She was my sister. She was a part of my soul..." [Dick starts crying] -Titans/Outsiders: Secret Files and Origins (2003)
"It's Nightwing whose soul shines the brightest. Raised in the shadow of the Bat, he overcame the death of his parents and the darkness of his mentor. Brave, unselfish, utterly kind--who wouldn't fall in love with that strength and that smile?" -The Return of Donna Troy (2005) #2
"Bottom line? No, the bottom line, Dick...is that you led us then and you lead us now. And I'd follow you into hell if I had to." -JLA (2006) #50
"It's going to be weird, though. Not having your best friends around you." "You'll have me, ya goof." -Titans (2016) Special #1
"He's so honorable, Dad. He's such a good man. A lot of our friends say we're like brother and sister. I think that's right. He knows more about me than almost anyone. I love him—but I've never been in love with him. He's my best friend. But he's something more, too. He's family." -Titans (2023) 2025 Annual
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OKAY SO from what i can remember:

- there’s a running gag that Donna is constantly on the phone with Dick, like she’s even on a date at some point and is like “okay I have to go”

- it’s addressed that Donna’s mentor Diana wasn’t really as present for her as some of the (male) Teen Titans’ mentors were for them. also that Diana is more of an older sister figure to Donna than a father figure like many of the Titan dudes’ mentors are to them.

- Donna’s perfectionism and overachiever nature also important

- also that Donna being the adopted daughter of the Queen of the Amazons and the sister of Wonder Woman plays into how perfect she feels like she has to be

- Jiminez also said something about really liking how “girly” Donna is “in the best way possible,” like she’s kind of a Sex in the City type girl

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