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s5 will byers defender era

#conformitygate: { The Sherlock Conspiracy }

I have to open this by saying that my "Achilles Heel" when it comes to suspecting #comformitygate and I guess now entertaining it for a bit is none other than ...

REALLY???

If there is any truth to #conformitygate AT. ALL, it HAS to be connected to birthdaygate. There is NO WAY around it.

Also, it's kind of interesting to me that people in the comments are bringing up the 2017 Sherlock Conspiracy when we have this 4th-wall-breaking moments in S4:

Coincidence? Who the hell knows atp. But tagging some people talking about this in case it helps or rings any bells:

very much recommend y'all look into the Sherlock Conspiracy because it was the exact same thing:

and surprise, surprise. That didn't really go anywhere. So is the same happening here, or is there a level of self-awareness / meta at play?

i'm so tired

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Stranger things finale was so bad. Byler fucking bones. That’s why I hopped on the Bychance bus. Everyone join me!

ngl this crack ship saved my sanity like im so deadass if i was still a byler by the time s5 + the finale dropped i wouldve been so upset id have cried for DAYS im not joking

i feel so bad for my fellow bylers though i genuinely GENUINELY thought byler was gonna happen hence why i didnt really talk on main about my "byler doubt" more openly. i thought we would get poorly-written byler but here we are ...

Anonymous asked:

everything bones except BYCHANCE (epilogue bf was just the beginning will eventually falls for chance)

YES!!

so in the meta, mike wrote will an imaginary boyfriend, BUT irl, wills actual lover was right there hiding in plain sight ( chance )

"the world is full of OBVIOUS things which nobody BY any CHANCE ever observes"

i'll make a huge post, stay tuned my fellow bychancer 🙏💚🐯 I GOTCHU

i'll write a whole fanfic + polish up my Bychance Slides

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I introduce you to: X-Gate.

Just saw this post by sylviethewise:

Reblog by @o11yradio:

RIGHT. My thoughts exactly. 🍀🏀🐅

If anyone's curious about this, check this recent post of mine:

…but also, X-Mas. 😀🙃👇

Dimension X

“You tricked me” “No, I saved you” (deception), banishment, electricity, fire, heat, yellow, danger, suffering, alien environment, harsh conditions, predators, mindflayer/shadow particles aka virus…

#DimensionX #DeceptionGate #BanishmentGate #ElectricityGate #FireGate #TemperatureGate #AlienGate #SAgate #VirusGate

Hardcore punk / youth culture → the Straight Edge “X”

Clubs began marking under-21 hands with a black X to allow all-ages shows without serving alcohol.

#PunkGate #PartyGate #ViceGate #TraffickGate

Film ratings & censorship → “X/XXX” = adults-only / explicit

UK: The BBFC abolished the “X” certificate in 1982, renaming it “18.” This happened amid tightening around home-video—culminating in the Video Recordings Act 1984 (the “video nasties” panic). US: The MPAA’s “X” rating (widely conflated with pornography) was replaced by NC-17 in 1990, but that 1980s “X” aura—forbidden/erotic—stuck in pop memory. Urban visual culture: “XXX” storefront signage (peep shows, adult theaters) was part of late-70s/80s Times Square’s landscape, reinforcing X => explicit/adult connotations.
Second pic: MPAA Rating System 1987

#ViceGate #TraffickGate #SIgate (Sex Industry) #TabooGate

Nightlife & drugs → “E / X / XTC” for MDMA

MDMA/Ecstasy entered club subcultures in the 1980s (before US scheduling in 1985). By the late ’80s/early ’90s the shorthand “X” was common slang.

#PartyGate #ViceGate #TraffickGate

Computing & design → “X11” Window System + network

The X Window System (“X11”), created at MIT’s Project Athena (1984; the X protocol has been at version 11 (hence "X11") since September 1987, put “X” on millions of UNIX workstations—so in tech circles, “X” connoted cutting-edge GUI/networked computing.

PS.:X11”??? Eleven??? “Athena” the Greek goddess of war??? 1987, the year ST5 is set in???

#MetaGate #ComputerGate #CodeGate #WarGamesGate #ManifestationGate #AvatarGate (El is an avatar/manifestation of Mike and/or Will, born from & tethered to certain specific aspects of their psyche)

Advertising & anonymization → “Brand X”

In ad/comparison contexts, “Brand X” meant a generic unnamed competitor—anonymity with a hint of inferiority—a usage well-established by mid-20th century and still common in the ’80s.

PS.:generic unnamed anonymous inferior competitor”??? S4 Argyle going “that’s a shitty knockoff” at Mike??? Are you guys following me???

#ByChance #ChanceGate #ShittyKnockoffGate #ManifestationGate #AvatarGate (Chance is also an avatar/manifestation of Mike and/or Will, born from & tethered to certain specific aspects of their psyche)

Bonus connections I remembered:

❌ 'The X Files' (TV Series, 1993–2018)

"Two F.B.I. Agents, Fox Mulder the believer and Dana Scully the skeptic, investigate the strange and unexplained, while hidden forces work to impede their efforts."

BRO idk who that on the left is, but that is the same fucking guy as the one on the left of Brenner in s1. They're also SO similar to Murray Bauman tf??

#XFilesGate

X-Men

All the ST / X-Men connections we already know about...

❌'Dimension X' from TMNT (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Tagging... ❤

X = Chance?

M = Mike?

okay this post has got to be one of my favorites! Also, adding to the Holly scene ....

Chance mention. Coincidence ..?

LAST BYCHANCE POST - vol i & ii collection

#. EP 1 = 5 TIMES ( bonus: YMCA 🍀 + LUCKY CHARMS 🍀 ) 4 ( ROBIN ) 1 ( DUSTIN )

#. EP 2 - 0 TIMES #. EP 3 - 1 TIME 1 ( TINA )

#. EP 4 - 3 TIMES ( bonus: SERENDIPITY 🍀 + "Being Different" playing ) 1 ( DUSTIN ) 1 ( ROBIN ) 1 ( MIKE )

"Being Different" playing

#. EP5- 2 TIMES 1 ( JONATHAN ) 1 ( WILL )

#. EP6- 1 TIME 1 ( HOLLY )

#. EP7 - 1 TIME ( bonus: LUCKY CHARMS 🍀 + TAMMY ) 1 ( WILL )

<< REWIND TO EP 5

BACK TO EP 7 >>

IF TAMMY = MIKE IS TRUE, THEN VICKIE = ?

And that's it, folks! This is my last bychance post before we finally, FINALLY learn the truth tomorrow and wrap it up 💚 praying for Will Byers happiness in the end

Just watched this interview:

and I immediately thought about this anon:

Unless that was intentional to remove suspicion, and they saw something in him during auditions?

anon, if you're still out there somewhere ... i think this came super late but ...

did anyone else notice how many fucking times they said the word 'chance' in vol i? because i counted

i have so many fucking questions bc they even brought up the concept of SERENDIPITY which i thought was a stretch ... smth abt randomness and SURPRISE and DnD ... surprise birthday parties ... belated birthday presents ... the wish you make as you blow the candles on the cake ...

loving how in the interview they talked about how he got the name "Chance" and made it seem like a thing that just happpened, i said oh im sure

so whats the meta joke here or whatever the hell? that they pulled him right out of the fairytale realm and onto the actual text? onto the real world. on accident?

a living. breathing. human being. with a brain. in the actual text. is he coming back for voll ii at all, though? it kinda seemed in the interview that he was not / the jocks storyline culminated in ep1 ...

i have nothing left to say i just have so many questions. its just a matter of waiting now ...

4 more days.

Now that we have established that I'm insane, ( we're all in agreement here, right? ) I'ma share my crack theory with y'all:

Chance is going to accidentally get Will'd ... or something like that. This is a working title

I know what you're thinking ( I don't )

but let me explain ...

We've already established that Bychance = serendipity / coincidence / the unexpected / surprise etc etc and by vol i we can infer they have 0 history as of vol i, so whatever happens between them in vol ii is going to feel completely random to the audience, regardless of how much actual thought, strategy and intention the showrunners have been putting to this storyline--that just feels inevitable to me regardless

and considering Will has no time for romance rn ( 🤪 ), and is tapping into new powers he's still learning to control ...

we can infer a huge chunk of vol ii will be Will learning to master these powers independently of Vecna because right now ...

what he is essentially doing is adapting Vecna's POV in real time and consequently invading his victim's minds as Vecna does, not by his own will ...

and i know what you're thinking, he could accidentally Will MIKE instead and see Mike's POV. we would see flashbacks of S1 to when Troy was taunting Mike about Will being in 'fairyland' and it is revealed to the audience just how much he loves Will / the audience reads Mike as queer on their own. I mean, we've been talking about Mike getting Vecna'd or El'd for so long now that ... what if he just straight up gets Will'd by complete chance?

and that is certainly a possibility

but i have my personal interpretation that im keeping very close to my chest for now bc i have more #Questions 🧐 than anything tbh. *Plays Take a Chance on Me by ABBA for inspiration*

for example ... what the fuck would he even see there? and moreover what the fuck would he even do with that information? and also how the fuck would Chance himself react if it somehow works as a two-way street and Chance sees inside Will's head and sees that the rumors about Zombie Boy being queer are true?

so many possibilities, only so many ways this could go, huh.

Maybe he sees wheelchance like some of my mutuals are theorizing and tada that's how we find out Mike is gay! but ... being honest with yall, that wouldn't feel deserved nor satisfying to me as a Will stan

i would want it to be something that a) would be purely about Will, not Mike--and b) that helps the audience see Chance as more dimensional than 'forgettable, mean bully', and that to me could include something about sexuality, but it wouldn't be solely about that

but other than that? im completely blind, man i have 0 clue what the fuck that'd be about

anyway like i said this is just a crack theory i don't genuinely believe it'll happen in the canon lmao but it could make for cool fanfic

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BYCHANCE PUZZLE - VOL II promo

DECEMBER 15

yeah i get it. they just like that word, i guess. been there, done that .....

ok yeah hunter's back at promoting the show bc he's in vol i, he's not returning for vol ii there wasn't anything about the jocks there ...

SCREECHES .........................

ok that's uh ... interesting .... rowill + chandy ft dustin ... i mean i guess it means nothing ....

just funnily enough reminded me of the rockie + will + chance mention scene ... where Will experienced queer joy for the first time by actually seeing a queer couple with his own eyes ...

wait .....................

>>> REWIND TO NOVEMBER 4TH

we failed. we never stood a chance

vs

no one stands a chance against us ..................................

that's uh, very mundane yes but also specific wording ....

wait w

was .....

...... was that on purpose, hunter? hunter did you ... like did you do that on purpose ...? like was ... was that like ... an actual, intentional hint ...?

Alexa, play I Know There's Something Going On by Frida ...

WAIT ... hold up,

>>> REWIND TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2025

vol i had the Queen song i made a whole post about, all of this is "Will hints" in a way though

The Golden Shadow, yes ... but like ... the lyrics ...

only ONE sweet moment set aside for us .......? bc yknow limited screentime + episodes left ... what .... the fuck ....

nah, there's .... no way ......

>>> FAST FORWARD TO DECEMBER 16

Diana Ross + Upside Down lyrics from the VOL II trailer

there's no way .... like ... it's probably just ...

right? unless ...

release .... being in command of his own ability ... & tapping into the hivemind at will ...

and that's that on self love / self-worth / self-respect ...

FREAKING THANK YOU ROBIN FUCKING BUCKLEY

HE'S FREE. HE'S FUCKING FREE, ISN'T HE?!?!!??!?

IS MY BELOVED WILL FINALLY FREE? IS MY POOKIE FREE FROM THE SHACKLES OF FORCED-CONFORMING!?!!?!?!?!? IS HE EMBRACING THE FREAK, THE WEIRDO!? THE MONSTROUS!?

BIRTHDAYGATE ..............................

COME THE FUCK HOME.

COME.

THE FUCK.

HOME.

WAIT ...

YES /.. EYHS

YEAH ROBIN AAISAID IT IHN HIS SPEECH AND WILL REMEMBERED HE'S LITERALLY FUCKING FREE

FREE WILL

I CAN'T STOP FUCKING FREAKING THE FUCK OUT THIS WAS ON MY DRAFTS BEFORE VOL I DROPPED

Their ship name being ...🚢🌈 ....

I'M .....................

........ hello?

I HAVE SO MANY FUCKING QUESTIONS THOUGH WHAT THE FUCK

anyway that's it for now i think i'm done screaming about this now it's just time to wait and see wtf is actually gonna go down

BYCHANCE PUZZLE - VOL II promo

DECEMBER 15

yeah i get it. they just like that word, i guess. been there, done that .....

ok yeah hunter's back at promoting the show bc he's in vol i, he's not returning for vol ii there wasn't anything about the jocks there ...

SCREECHES .........................

ok that's uh ... interesting .... rowill + chandy ft dustin ... i mean i guess it means nothing ....

just funnily enough reminded me of the rockie + will + chance mention scene ... where Will experienced queer joy for the first time by actually seeing a queer couple with his own eyes ...

wait .....................

>>> REWIND TO NOVEMBER 4TH

we failed. we never stood a chance

vs

no one stands a chance against us ..................................

that's uh, very mundane yes but also specific wording ....

wait w

was .....

...... was that on purpose, hunter? hunter did you ... like did you do that on purpose ...? like was ... was that like ... an actual, intentional hint ...?

Alexa, play I Know There's Something Going On by Frida ...

WAIT ... hold up,

>>> REWIND TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2025

vol i had the Queen song i made a whole post about, all of this is "Will hints" in a way though

The Golden Shadow, yes ... but like ... the lyrics ...

only ONE sweet moment set aside for us .......? bc yknow limited screentime + episodes left ... what .... the fuck ....

nah, there's .... no way ......

>>> FAST FORWARD TO DECEMBER 16

Diana Ross + Upside Down lyrics from the VOL II trailer

there's no way .... like ... it's probably just ...

right? unless ...

release .... being in command of his own ability ... & tapping into the hivemind at will ...

and that's that on self love / self-worth / self-respect ...

FREAKING THANK YOU ROBIN FUCKING BUCKLEY

HE'S FREE. HE'S FUCKING FREE, ISN'T HE?!?!!??!?

IS MY BELOVED WILL FINALLY FREE? IS MY POOKIE FREE FROM THE SHACKLES OF FORCED-CONFORMING!?!!?!?!?!? IS HE EMBRACING THE FREAK, THE WEIRDO!? THE MONSTROUS!?

BIRTHDAYGATE ..............................

COME THE FUCK HOME.

COME.

THE FUCK.

HOME.

Anonymous asked:

So maybe that photo got combined together with another photo in my mind oops... I think its bc I remember seeing ppl theorize that mike got that bruise in a fight with the jocks. I was kinda assuming there'd be a scene where the bullies would get their "comeuppance" but maybe not lol.

I was also thinking 'Shock Jock' could have a double meaning. And it's interesting that the leak abt the jocks working with the military clarified that the MAC-Z scene wasn't related to that plotline since that's true but the source could still be bs of course, though the idea made sense to me too. Like the jocks' misguided/prejudiced anger at Hellfire leads them to join the military somehow who are also going abt it the wrong way. Both would think they're the good guys but not.

Another thing lol, I was thinking abt that 'jock #2' locker pic and wondering if that would still appear in the show or if they just ended up scrapping that? I thought it might have been an early version of Andy's locker since that does appear but the vibe of his locker feels very different considering he's got the typical "hot lady photo" in his and him being #2 doesn't make as much sense, but who knows. Maybe they just made one for Chance to add more to the set and so he felt included aww (seems like too much work tho)

hello anon you're so nice i love you thank you for coming to me and you've made so many valid points and im so sorry im not going to address any of them rn bc im so desperate i feel like this dude:

except its not my weiner i want you asking me about, it's this:

im so desperate anon i waited but not ONME ISNGLE SOUL ASKED ME ... and i NEED somebody to ask me PLEASE i can't just like ... send an anon to myself and ask myself it has to actually be somebody curious enough to ask

i have no time to explain but like

like im about to just start doing what this dude did and like

chasing yall and tackling yall like first of all that didn't exactly work for him LMAAOOOOO but i was patient anon i waited and by this point MY INNER DIVA CANNOT SHE JUST WANTS TO BE RELEASED PLEASE ANON ...

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the s4 Rink-o-Mania catastrophe foreshadows Byler suffering a shocking and MAJOR HIT (probably because of Bychance) in ST5 vol 2, but 99.9% are not ready for that conversation.

All of us, as Bylers, need to eventually realize that metaphorically/mythologically speaking, Eleven acts as a personified manifestation of Byler’s love.

Eleven SYMBOLIZES an idealized, childish & naive version of Byler that is pure, wholesome & cute—but also needs to eventually adapt, change, be integrated or put to rest in order for their love to be able to evolve into a more mature, renewed version that healed and learned from past trauma, embraced rebellion, developed independence and “emancipated” itself. The character that encapsulates or is tethered to this evolution is Max Mayfield, but that is a topic for another post.

Eleven lying, feeling jealous and possessive, being bullied, publicly humiliated, reacting with thoughtless violence, experiencing brutal guilt, reliving flashbacks to her most traumatic memory at Rink-o-Mania—ON WILL’s FORGOTTEN BIRTHDAY of all possible days, mind you—is NOT just about Eleven herself, at least not in a superficial character sense.

What it means is that, in the past—probably on the dreaded & forgotten 1979 birthday party event where Will turned 8 years old—the love between Mike and Will ALSO went through some kind of traumatic experience involving lies, emotional turmoil, severe bullying and humiliation, violence and guilt. To the point that its memory had to be forgotten, buried or erased in-universe by the characters themselves, SOMEHOW.

And in true Stranger Things fashion, this very same core traumatic series of events are going to be mimicked and replicated in s5 in a similar way. AKA, involving similar beats, motifs, themes and emotions.

Eleven GOING THROUGH IT after all that, being ARRESTED by authorities, and TAKEN AWAY from Mike and Will, while Mike and Will themselves are both angry and distant at her and also each other—this quite literally means Byler’s relationship SUFFERING, being PUNISHED, FRAGMENTED and WITHDRAWN while Mike and Will become ANGRY and DISTANT at eachother.

What’s Birthdaygate’s connection to Bychance, you ask? Well COUNTLESS things, but most importantly, and to make it short, 22Gate. Chance quite literally WEARS Will’s birthday on his basketball tanktop. He is PLAYER #22. This was a discovery by @ven0moir btw, please check her brilliant posts.

Bonus point among a billion others: Mike, in his desperation for finding El (aka BYLER aka Will’s love for him after feeling the stinging pain of jealousy), stumbles into an ORANGE 🍊 WASHROOM no less; to witness something he shouldn’t.

In the official s4 scripts, he originally even goes as far as PEEKING UNDER A GODDAMN BATHROOM STALL. You cannot make this shit up. It’s insane.

In s4’s case, the “something he shouldn’t” was girls in their privacy; in s5 vol 1, it was Will stumbling upon Rovickie; in s5 vol 2, let’s see what they have in store involving jealousy, a washroom, invaded privacy, and the color orange.

It’s also right after this scene that Mike goes on his famous fake IDGAFer butthurt jealous cokerant about how Will has been neglecting their relationship. With multiple orange extras and set pieces in the background, for some reason.

Mike: You should have told me Eleven was having trouble. (You should have told me our relationship was having trouble AKA you searched for love somewhere else.)

Will: i didnt know they were gonna be here, Mike. (I didn’t know you were queer / interested in me / going to catch us here.)

Mike: yeah, but you knew she was having trouble for like, a year, and you didn’t tell me. (Oh, so you’ve been having this secret relationship for like a year and didn’t tell me.) — Now we finally know why later in this scene they say “a year” instead of the 6 months that have actually passed since Will left Hawkins (AKA left Mike lmfao). It’s because the purpose was to foreshadow Will meeting Chance in late 1986 and Mike finding out their secret relationship a year later, in Nov 1987 (ST5 vol 2).

But yeah, as always I’m sure it’s all just a totally random coincidence with zero implications to the wider narrative.

There’s so much more to say about this, but after volume 1 and by now, I think it should be obvious that the Byler plotline still needs to get severely worse before it gets any better (and eventually pays off in an actual, truly satisfying manner).

The Byler issues haven’t been processed or addressed. The true conflict and drama still haven’t happened in the story. THE STAKES HAVE NOT YET BEEN RAISED.

tagging fellow chancegate theorizers in case yall are interested: @ven0moir @offsidetracked @eeriesilkworm @o11yradio @nocturnalgrey @maplesyrup75 @90shorrorpaperback

my face whenever i read your posts 👀 im SO curious where this all goes

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Anonymous asked:

people crashing out over Bychance posts are just as bad as milkvans complaining about Byler. it doesn't matter if it has canon potential, or if it's logical, it's just a ship here on the actual shipping website. christ let people have their fun

staring at the date of this post and blinking

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This exchange before Andy finds a SNAKE in his locker...

Andy: "See what Donna was wearing?"

Chance: "No."

Andy: "She's gone up like two sizes since last year."

Chance: "Yeah, right."

...Was there any reason for this exchange other than to indicate that Chance is not interested in women?

And do I even have to go into the snake symbolism here?

"...Was there any reason for this exchange other than to indicate that Chance is not interested in women?"

lemme add my two cents here.

I'd say it's moreso that he's not interested in fat-shaming people. I say that not only because of the deflated, non-committal responses he gave, but also bc I like to refer to the text itself when trying to piece together writer's intent and this scene reminded me of the car conversation between Billy and Max in S2, where Billy fat-shamed the girls at Hawkins High ( calling them 'cows' ) and Max didn't indulge him and Billy was an ass to her for it.

Something about Max telling Lucas about not wanting to be like Billy but saying she's also angry like him.

A similar thing is happening here in a way ...? Andy is fat-shaming someone named Donna ( I have things to say about that name, but later ) and talking about clothes ( of course ) but Chance is passive and non-confrontational about it. Like he's Very Aware of the consequences of going against Andy / being 'banished' from the basketball team.

He would end up with no place to belong bc he doesn't really fit in anywhere and there's no way the freaks would adopt him after the crimes he has committed against them, or smth like that 😔 will Chance remain a coward through and through, the unimportant NPC most people think?

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