Flight Rising Discussion

[quote name="CipherThirteen" date="2025-11-16 10:33:32" ] I do agree that they need to do a much better job of balancing primaries/secondaries/tertiaries. It's clear that the dragon designs don't consider the genes at all. Frankly, I think the solution to having a weak secondary that's below a certain coverage amount is to put the gem secondaries in the regular treasure marketplace for regular treasure prices. They don't deserve to be gem genes if the coverage isn't there. In the case of Thorns, gem primary is ok, but those gem secondaries should be treasure secondaries because they provide low value. I'll pay treasure prices, but you're right - gem prices are extremely inconsiderate for what you get. (You might consider making a suggestion thread if you have an idea for a different kind of dragon that's mostly wing, or some way to balance the gem prices to be appropriate for the breed.) [/quote] prices being different is something I didn't consider tbh. it would make sense for ancients a lot, since they don't keep genes when breedchanged (so it can't be exploited... tho I do lean a bit in favour that it would be great that ancients do keep their genes but with this, it feels unfair). I DOUBT it would be changed, and even if they do introduce, what about people who already spent their gems? can that be traced? as it would be fair to return but don't think it would happen. cuz tbh I would be annoyed if I spend gems for thorntail hatchie, then there is another breed with small secondary coverage and that one gets cheaper genes. I would sure love my gems back then sadly I don't have any breed ideas (tho I keep thinking that noddle all mane that is MANE not wing shaped mane is IMO neat) lol, I leave it up to people and it is fun to think. esp as while there are poses that show more of one than another... something more balanced across whole breed would be neat (like, I wouldn't spend gems for F dustie secondary but if I am to sil scroll her? yeah I would)

[quote name="Valrunie" date="2025-11-16 14:42:12" ] [quote name="CipherThirteen" date="2025-11-16 10:33:32" ] I do agree that they need to do a much better job of balancing primaries/secondaries/tertiaries. It's clear that the dragon designs don't consider the genes at all. Frankly, I think the solution to having a weak secondary that's below a certain coverage amount is to put the gem secondaries in the regular treasure marketplace for regular treasure prices. They don't deserve to be gem genes if the coverage isn't there. In the case of Thorns, gem primary is ok, but those gem secondaries should be treasure secondaries because they provide low value. I'll pay treasure prices, but you're right - gem prices are extremely inconsiderate for what you get. (You might consider making a suggestion thread if you have an idea for a different kind of dragon that's mostly wing, or some way to balance the gem prices to be appropriate for the breed.) [/quote] prices being different is something I didn't consider tbh. it would make sense for ancients a lot, since they don't keep genes when breedchanged (so it can't be exploited... tho I do lean a bit in favour that it would be great that ancients do keep their genes but with this, it feels unfair). I DOUBT it would be changed, and even if they do introduce, what about people who already spent their gems? can that be traced? as it would be fair to return but don't think it would happen. cuz tbh I would be annoyed if I spend gems for thorntail hatchie, then there is another breed with small secondary coverage and that one gets cheaper genes. I would sure love my gems back then sadly I don't have any breed ideas (tho I keep thinking that noddle all mane that is MANE not wing shaped mane is IMO neat) lol, I leave it up to people and it is fun to think. esp as while there are poses that show more of one than another... something more balanced across whole breed would be neat (like, I wouldn't spend gems for F dustie secondary but if I am to sil scroll her? yeah I would) [/quote] It's pointless to worry about whether something is "unfair" to people who already spent gems. You will never get improvements if maintaining the status quo is the focus. People who spent gems may never get them back, but you have to draw the line somewhere and things will be better for everyone for future projects, which is plenty fair. As someone who's planning to spend a ridiculous amount of gems on Thorntail genes for a ridiculous new project, I'll be satisfied with whatever I'm forced to spend now, and happy with any future price reductions, and so will most people. Anyway, just a thought to balance things better. I doubt they'll seek a fair balance either, but nothing is lost by proposing it. All we can ever do is shout into the void, lol.