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About the Sabertooth comic...

I know I haven't posted here in a while, but honestly, I wanted to talk a little bit about how I felt about the latest comic and what it means to me.

Honestly? I feel betrayed. I feel like every little bit of hope I had has been kicked and thrown away, and I can blame the authors and Marvel itself, but this is a problem that happens so often that I just can't take it anymore.

Do you know why I feel so bad? This was my support during my almost 5-year career. I haven't finished it yet, and since I started this last one, I've been dealing with anxiety and depression. I thought I had found a place where I felt safe, a parachute from all the bad things happening around me. Damn, I even thought about doing a Laura cosplay for my birthday to celebrate, and now I feel like the character has slapped me in the face, as if everything I did with love for this ship was just a joke. And the more time passes, the more I think about it, the more I just want to cry out of pure rage. I'm tired.

I really liked the community I got to know here, even though it was small. I was so happy that there were people with my same tastes and opinions, but I don't know if I can keep posting after this.

My feelings for Laura are confusing, because I even think Julian deserves better. I love him in a way I can't describe, and he's the one I base many of my tastes on. I feel like I have to look out for the good of the character he loved and also for my own, but I don't even know what's right and what's wrong.


I'm sorry if this post is just me whining, but I'm not doing well right now and I needed to vent. I can only hope that you are doing better than I am.

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Originally posted by comeforkiss

I was 22 years old when X-23 Vol 2 #19 came out. Just graduated from college in the Fall and home for the holidays. I still remember how much that issue effected me.

I remember the feeling of betrayal all too well. I know its rough, especially when the world is utter shit right now - and our only escape is those fictional blorbos who make us smile and feel happy.

Its ok to be upset - ok to feel these things.

And i'm 36 now, laughing because here i am face to face with yet another Nuclear Helix Event. Laughing cuz it both hurts and is its own way funny. But if I may impart some thing i've learned in 14 years between now and then.

The Story is NEVER Over.

Marvel tried to Nuke em back in 2011 and fans kept it alive. Marvel napalmed them today...but fans will keep them going. Whether through fanfic, fan art, memes/shitposts, metas, podcasts etc. And eventually sooner or later a Writer will come around who feels the same way too and get to tell the story we all knew was there.

So chin up and strap in soldier, cuz the Helix war never ends!

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I’m just telling myself it’s an AU. It doesn’t necessarily mean it will be relevant to the main universe. Or it could even be what pushes them together.

But I get it. It’s frustrating. This year especially because it started off so good with NYX 8 fixing almost EVERYTHING about Liu in one conversation, with the cover for LKW 7 dropping right after. But then nothing happened and the plot got dropped. Then LKW 7 turned out to be an illusion but even THAT was hopeful because on the illusion of a perfect world it was Julian that Laura saw herself with.

I honestly feel at this point Marvel just likes tormenting Helix fans.

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To be fair, Laura is proof that the people involved with Weapon X did learn their lesson from Logan:

  1. Rather than start with an adult who had already developed a mind and identity of their own, they decided to grow their subject from scratch, and raised her to not have any sense of self or choice.
  2. As a failsafe, they prepared Kimura as a countermeasure in case X-23 went rogue as Logan did.
  3. As a secondary failsafe, they developed the trigger scent and conditioned her to it to ensure she couldn’t refuse an order to kill, again establishing control.

And these measures worked. For much of her life Laura was lost without some figure of authority directing her, and was unable to properly make decisions for herself. She even had a perfect chance to escape after Rice abandoned her on one mission: The Facility thought she was dead, so Laura could have simply slipped away. But because the Facility was all she knew, she instinctively went back.

The Facility made three key mistakes:

  1. Sutter was blindly trusting of Rice, and didn’t take action when he undermined Sarah and even threatened the well-being of the project itself, even when Sarah herself tried to warn him Rice was being excessively cruel.
  2. They didn’t account for someone sabotaging the project from within, and Sarah wasn’t properly dealt with once it was clear she was becoming a liability (which was the result of #1).
  3. Kimura was apparently not at the installation at the time of Laura’s escape, judging by her arrival later with the response/search team.

Had Sutter kept Rice under better control and not allowed him to vent his pettiness and vindictiveness against Sarah and Laura, Sarah may never have become disillusioned with the project in the first place (especially if she had not been forced to carry Laura to term herself and been made her caretaker entirely because Rice wanted to punish her for defying him).

Once Sarah began pushing back against the brutal treatment Laura was subjected to, Sutter should have relieved or otherwise removed her and not tried to use Laura as leverage to keep her under control (and vice-versa). And had Rice not used the trigger on Sarah as a sick play to further torment Laura and just shot her if he wanted her dead, she would never have been able to kick off her plan to bring the project down.

Finally, had Kimura actually been at the installation, Laura likely would not have been able to escape even if Sarah succeeded in freeing her from her cell.

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Happy Birthday Laura

X-23 turns 20 years old today, on the anniversary of the airing of her self-titled episode of X-Men: Evolution.

This is a pretty big milestone; X-23 is one of Marvel’s most successful characters introduced after the 90s. She’s proven to be one of the few X-Men who can consistently support a solo book, and has been a consistent presence in the team books since.

Unfortunately of late it seems that no one at Marvel really knows what to do with her. She desperately needs a Rogues Gallery, yet no one seems interested in building it up. She’s been badly written for most of the Krakoa era, having lost much of her own unique personality to the point where she’s frequently depicted as Logan With Tits, when she once stood apart for her cool, collected demeanor and laconic nature.

Now there are two of her, with one having been reduced to a shiny prop for Synch with no narrative agency of her own, the other habitually abused by writers who apparently can’t understand the nuance of her character.

Marvel themselves have given no indication of acknowledging her 20th birthday, which is a big deal for any character to reach, much less one that’s ostensibly become an important fixture in the franchise. It almost certainly doesn’t help this is the 60th Anniversary year for Marvel comics itself, and it’s highly likely that Laura’s own anniversary is to be overshadowed by the franchise itself.

Frankly she deserves better.

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