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Today, 4:49 AM
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lagom
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i keep seeing people saying top scores aka rankings are useless here on mal so why not remove it to lessen controversy for example?

a lot of this users think their personal scores matter more so just let us all add our own scores on our own lists like always but never add them to the top rankings for the whole site?
Today, 4:50 AM
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BIKINI⚔️ARMOR

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I don't think the site is gonna get rid of its aggregates just because some people don't like it or don't care about it.

Today, 4:53 AM
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lagom
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Reply to tchitchouan
I don't think the site is gonna get rid of its aggregates just because some people don't like it or don't care about it.

@tchitchouan for sure but just a hypothetical question considering how i see this as the major comment on every ranking or top scores discussion on the forums

also it gives myanimelist a bad reputation too in the long run if their system sucks so bad like unreliable or fake news
Today, 4:57 AM
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@tchitchouan for sure but just a hypothetical question considering how i see this as the major comment on every ranking or top scores discussion on the forums

also it gives myanimelist a bad reputation too in the long run if their system sucks so bad like unreliable or fake news
@deg Metacritic and other media aggregators also suffer from the same issue but that's just how the mathematical formula parts to wholes works, there is no other way around, now whether to follow it or trust it is up to personal choice and preference since it can be manipulated by recency bias and score bombing. I guess the decision is up to the site admins and whatever they feel like doing to it.
Today, 5:03 AM
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deg said:
a lot of this users think their personal scores matter more

And who's problem is that supposed to be? And do you even realize how stupid this suggestion is? It's a different story if a lot of people want to bitch about some dogshit being the greatest thing in existence, probably because that means their dick is big or something. The point is to give everyone the option.
Today, 5:06 AM
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lagom
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Reply to Captain-577
deg said:
a lot of this users think their personal scores matter more

And who's problem is that supposed to be? And do you even realize how stupid this suggestion is? It's a different story if a lot of people want to bitch about some dogshit being the greatest thing in existence, probably because that means their dick is big or something. The point is to give everyone the option.
@Captain-577 i dont see it as a problem im just saying an observation i see here for years

whats stupid is the endless controversy around the top rankings and people keep repeating the same "myanimelist scores do not matter but only my personal scores matter more"
Today, 5:08 AM
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Reply to tchitchouan
@deg Metacritic and other media aggregators also suffer from the same issue but that's just how the mathematical formula parts to wholes works, there is no other way around, now whether to follow it or trust it is up to personal choice and preference since it can be manipulated by recency bias and score bombing. I guess the decision is up to the site admins and whatever they feel like doing to it.
@tchitchouan ye true no scoring or ranking site is perfect but there are less wrong places since they have better algorithms or system
Today, 5:16 AM
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@Captain-577 i dont see it as a problem im just saying an observation i see here for years

whats stupid is the endless controversy around the top rankings and people keep repeating the same "myanimelist scores do not matter but only my personal scores matter more"
@deg
I too get annoyed by the bs but that's not a management problem. The basic idea is to present an average score based on what a group of people have rated. Ofcourse there are ways to game the system and these numbers don't really mean much. But that doesn't mean the basic system should be rid of.
Today, 5:19 AM
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Reply to Captain-577
@deg
I too get annoyed by the bs but that's not a management problem. The basic idea is to present an average score based on what a group of people have rated. Ofcourse there are ways to game the system and these numbers don't really mean much. But that doesn't mean the basic system should be rid of.
@Captain-577 if they do not want to remove it then at least myanimelist should improve it like how they made the anti vote brigading system after the score raids for interspecies reviewers years ago

for example the suggestion to do franchise grouping and average the scores of all anime of a franchise has been suggested for years here but myanimelist refuse to implement it
Today, 5:36 AM

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It's not useless, when people say that it's because they just found out that a highly rated anime doesn't have a 100% chance to be good for them.

And that's exactly the problem: the top ranking represents the general consensus, not how much YOU will like those anime; by definition most people are part of the majority, but if you aren't good for you: it would be weird if you ALWAYS agreed with the majority.
Today, 5:41 AM

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-Ratings aren't useless
-Obsessing over rating is useless
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It's not useless, when people say that it's because they just found out that a highly rated anime doesn't have a 100% chance to be good for them.

And that's exactly the problem: the top ranking represents the general consensus, not how much YOU will like those anime; by definition most people are part of the majority, but if you aren't good for you: it would be weird if you ALWAYS agreed with the majority.
@Nirinbo ye true its just the endless overrated and underrated arguments is a constant problem for years now and there is no improvements on the system itself besides the anti vote brigading system
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Guys I am scared of flying so I never travel by plane

Can we just remove the sky? I don't need it
Today, 5:51 AM
lagom
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Guys I am scared of flying so I never travel by plane

Can we just remove the sky? I don't need it
@YordaTrico the sky is not man made but the mal ranking system is man made so it can be improve or get remove
Today, 5:52 AM

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Reply to deg
@YordaTrico the sky is not man made but the mal ranking system is man made so it can be improve or get remove
If we changed it so your favourite anime were top would that be acceptable?
Today, 5:54 AM
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Reply to YordaTrico
If we changed it so your favourite anime were top would that be acceptable?
@YordaTrico i do not care personally

again this is just an observation i have over the many years im here and what i think about this problem
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Reply to deg
@YordaTrico i do not care personally

again this is just an observation i have over the many years im here and what i think about this problem
it's never going to be a perfect system


  • people will vote too highly in bad faith, I love Frieren but this high a score after 1 episode is dumb
  • people will vote too low in bad faith, in no reality is Frieren S1 a 1 star anime but you can find scores of that


as another user said - obsessing over ratings is useless

My favourite anime is ranked somewhere around 200 last time I saw and whether it goes up 100 places or drops 2000 places - it will still remain my favourite anime because that ranking has nothing to do with why I love it
Today, 6:01 AM

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How about we put the people who are so easily triggered by numbers somewhere else



Reddit for instance

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Today, 6:01 AM
lagom
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YordaTrico said:
its never going to be perfect


yes but other scoring or ranking sites are less wrong at least so there is always room for improvements but mal developers rarely do that
Today, 6:03 AM
lagom
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FMmatron said:
How about we put the people who are so easily triggered by numbers somewhere else


thats an option but myanimelist forum alone will become more and more of a ghost town
Today, 6:15 AM

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I don't really pay attention on Top Anime, but I look up on Top Upcoming, Most Favorited and Most Popular but I would prefer if Most Popular was sorted only by number of "complete".

Top Anime could stay but it should get rules like ex.anime must have a certain number of members with "completed" or "watching" episodes to be shown in ranking.

Today, 6:26 AM
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Reply to LittleStar
I don't really pay attention on Top Anime, but I look up on Top Upcoming, Most Favorited and Most Popular but I would prefer if Most Popular was sorted only by number of "complete".

Top Anime could stay but it should get rules like ex.anime must have a certain number of members with "completed" or "watching" episodes to be shown in ranking.

@LittleStar there is top favorited too and i tend to like that ranking more here https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=favorite
Today, 6:35 AM

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I'm in favor of this proposition.

Ratings are meaningless. Just change the system into "most watched" and it will reflect what people in general like a lot better.
Today, 6:36 AM

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@LittleStar there is top favorited too and i tend to like that ranking more here https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=favorite
@deg, most favorite is good too... ❤️
most users can have only 10 anime on their favorite list, so I think people choose some really *special* ones for their favs.
Not always there are big hits, but got something that people really like to add them on their favorite list.
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Reply to WaterMage
-Ratings aren't useless
-Obsessing over rating is useless
@WaterMage Couldn't agree more with this
12 hours ago
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Reply to LittleStar
@deg, most favorite is good too... ❤️
most users can have only 10 anime on their favorite list, so I think people choose some really *special* ones for their favs.
Not always there are big hits, but got something that people really like to add them on their favorite list.
@LittleStar exactly the fact that favorites have the default limit of 10 makes it special or tend to be the best of the best for many users
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Looks like those people can't stand to see a ranking that's not in their favor.
MAL ranking will keep pissing them off no matter how it turns out anyway, so deal with it.

deg said:
yes but other scoring or ranking sites are less wrong at least so there is always room for improvements but mal developers rarely do that

For example?
12 hours ago
lagom
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Looks like those people can't stand to see a ranking that's not in their favor.
MAL ranking will keep pissing them off no matter how it turns out anyway, so deal with it.

deg said:
yes but other scoring or ranking sites are less wrong at least so there is always room for improvements but mal developers rarely do that

For example?
@Geark77 bigger ranking sites like imdb or metacritic? the only improvement myanimelist implemented over the decade right now to the ranking system is the anti vote brigading one
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Because the silent majority keeps paying attention to scores, regardless of loud minorities ranting about them.
*kappa*
11 hours ago
lagom
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Reply to Zarutaku
Because the silent majority keeps paying attention to scores, regardless of loud minorities ranting about them.
@Zarutaku ok that may well be the case too but isnt the mal ranking system unreliable or more wrong than other ranking sites?
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Reply to FMmatron
How about we put the people who are so easily triggered by numbers somewhere else



Reddit for instance
@FMmatron
FMmatron said:
Reddit for instance
funny you say this, coz MAL is essentially r/anime minimized. Every opinion or consensus over there is the same over here
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@Zarutaku ok that may well be the case too but isnt the mal ranking system unreliable or more wrong than other ranking sites?
Why would that be the case? MAL is the largest anime ranking site with the most users, and more users result in more reliable scores.
*kappa*
11 hours ago
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Why would that be the case? MAL is the largest anime ranking site with the most users, and more users result in more reliable scores.
@Zarutaku imdb has more users for example right? and their ranking system seems have more quality control?
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@Captain-577 if they do not want to remove it then at least myanimelist should improve it like how they made the anti vote brigading system after the score raids for interspecies reviewers years ago

for example the suggestion to do franchise grouping and average the scores of all anime of a franchise has been suggested for years here but myanimelist refuse to implement it
deg said:
for example the suggestion to do franchise grouping and average the scores of all anime of a franchise has been suggested for years here but myanimelist refuse to implement it
and for good reason. not all seasons of a show or series of a franchise are of the same quality.
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Even if you remove it, those people running anime fanpages on IG, FB & X will dominate weebs' algorithm by regularly posting the "Top Highest-Rated Anime Episode of the Week" and "Top Seasonal Anime, courtesy of IMDb, MAL & AniList score."

So, not really the best solution for the complainers x
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@Zarutaku imdb has more users for example right? and their ranking system seems have more quality control?
IMDb has much less users who score anime, but otherwise their system is more reliable indeed, because users who watched more have a higher influence on the mean score.
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No, the ranking is fair based on how many users voted in total for this said anime/Japanese written sources because it actually saved itself from the score inflation.
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The top ranking is literally raw data. Do what you want with it don't complain it's been presented to you
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MAL rating is literally where most of this value of the website from comes from, in anilist you need to search for the rating, and even then they're not plastered everywhere as an attribute of this series

krautnelson said:
and for good reason. not all seasons of a show or series of a franchise are of the same quality.


Who gives a shit that they aren't. numbers and values aren't gonna be lost. you can still have individual values listed
Most series franchise ratings would likely orbit the rating of the first season
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No, we don't need remove anything. If you don't understand how to use some instrument, it's doesn't mean that instrument is useless))
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Calling rankings useless while obsessing over them is embarrassing. Your opinion isn’t being censored, it’s just not important enough to outweigh thousands of others. Cope, scroll, move on.
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Every time an anime takes the number 1 spot threads like this appears. For someone who doesn't care you sure pay attention to scores very often.
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