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Something I’ve had the idea for in my head for years, but wanted to do for this Christmas. A bit late, but I wanted to still get it out before the Twelve Days of Christmas were up. Don’t forget to like on YouTube if you enjoyed it!
(Sorry there was a delay submitting these on my end.)
So, some more headcanons and thoughts from me. ;)
(1) Ghidorah’s new Titan army. If/When Ghidorah returns after their last death and after they influenced Don and Meg during The Clash of Silver, perhaps they’ve got a new Titan army at their beck and call - but it’s not just the Earthborn Titans enslaved to their will or the Many’s constructs this time?
Remember my past headcanon that the Skull Island Kraken in Abraxasverse could be a creation of Ghidorah or the Many mutating? Perhaps it’s not the only one. Perhaps, following up on how Ghidorah during the events of Abraxas gained a new interest in creating things in their own image, Ghidorah during the time since their last death at the Berezniki battle has been creating new, artificial Titans as their new thralls? (Perhaps Ghidorah’s mutagenic abilities like San’s old head turning Vivienne help to make these new Titans, as do Zmeyevich that are in the right positions among the humans with access to the right scientific and genetic resources?)
(1.5) Perhaps this is also Destoroyah’s origin? Perhaps he’s a Dragon Ascendant after Ghidorah’s next downfall?
(2) Titanus Abraxas’ transhumanism legacy. Speaking of artificial Titans, after Abraxas’ creation demonstrated to the world in 2020 that creating transhuman Titans is possible, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t at least one human villain organisation out there that tries to make transhuman Titan supersoldiers. (How successful they’d be at creating such without something going horribly physically wrong would be another matter entirely.)
(2.5) Don, Meg and Desghidorah!Ren’s own apotheosis into Mechagodzilla and then into Desghidorah would probably make it even more tempting for a couple more human parties who don’t know how to heed a cautionary tale to give this a shot.
(3) The final battle’s bookend location. Perhaps Godzilla’s Abraxasverse final battle against Destoroyah and/or Bagan occurs in one of these places, because of their symbolic significance:
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1/1.5: With remnants of the Many still skulking around, it only makes sense that they’d gradually assimilate lifeforms to create beasties like the Kraken, and naturally Don and Meg would be keen to follow in their fathers’ footsteps with all the atrocities that entails, so maybe they would use their heritage as a means of collecting and controlling the Many remnants; not all of them and not enough to draw attention to where they’re hiding, just enough keep under the radar.
2/2.5: I’m reminded of how, after watching KOTM, a meatspace friend expressed interest in the making of super soldiers infused with Titan DNA and with the precedent set by Titanus Abraxas, it’s only natural that there will be secret projects to create such super soldiers. The world in AbraxasVerse may be better in ways due to the awakened Titans fixing the environment and things, but not all of it is better.
3: These seem like appropriate places for an AbraxasVerse final battle extraordinaire, especially since Tokyo is like New York City in that it’s a magnet for distasters, San Francisco would be a great book-end since it hosted a climactic Titan Battle between Godzilla and the Mutos, and it would be visually interesting to see a battle go down in an abandoned city reclaimed by nature.
zerm2v0hg asked:
I think three of the main problems with Godzilla seeming to get more violent in GvK onwards are that:
(a) Whereas in 2014, Godzilla clearly dodged around manmade obstacles like the USS Saratoga and the skyscrapers in Hawaii, and it seemed even on the Golden Gate Bridge like he was trying to ignore the military's bombardments until they started reaching his gills; in GvK, Godzilla came across as a bit more hostile when he was swiping down and atomic-breathing jets in Pensacola, and when he smashed his back through that car-filled bridge in Hong Kong with his arrival, plus I saw the footage in the GxK:TNE trailer of Evolved Godzilla knifing his dorsal spines through a vehicle-filled bridge again.
(b) This effect was even more heightened by how KotM just before GvK and GxK:TNE followed up on 2014's portrayal by making Godzilla out to be even more heroic than 2014 did, with him seemingly saving the Argo and Madison with good timing, and with how the only city that he destroys as collateral is already evacuated anyway, and finally with what the end credits said about him actively telling the other Titans to stay away from population centres. That probably caused people to forget about the tsunami Godzilla caused in 2014 and focus on his avoidance of unnecessary collateral in the first two films, when they were about to go into watching GvK.
(c) GvK and GxK:TNE are the films which start to feature Godzilla crossing paths with and antagonising Kong aggressively, who again the MV humanises more than the non-ape Titans, even if Godzilla had other reasons besides the "Godzilla's an asshole" take for being aggressive with Kong.
I feel like in GvK, Godzilla causing more needless collateral damage to humans can probably be explained by him feeling negatively about what the humans who once worshipped him did with MechaG, just five years (a time period which is probably an eyeblink by Godzilla's standards) after Godzilla and the modern humans fought side-by-side to stop Ghidorah, which was ALSO a world-threatening problem that humans set loose in the first place. When the military fired on Godzilla in 2014 and when they dropped the Oxygen Destroyer on him in KotM, Godzilla probably understood that the modern humans knew not what they do at the times because they'd forgotten their species' past with him and his role in nature - in GvK, humanity has no such excuse anymore, after everything that happened between them and Godzilla in KotM.
(Seriously, if I was in Godzilla's shoes at the end of GvK, I would've taken that incident as a sign that my planetary house needs some overdue pest control.)
hrodvitnon answered:
Fair points. Me, I’d like the next MonsterVerse movie to have a greater focus on Godzilla himself so we can really get his perspective on things, and less Kong bias to make him look bad by comparison.
If you could make ten or less changes to each of the Monsterverse films and TV series, what would YOU pick?
My picks:
(Godzilla 2014)
(Godzilla vs. Kong)
inzendino asked:
Ok little idea I just thought of but what if Legendary Mecha Godzilla is just San in a very nice costume.
startheskelaton answered:
Actually they’re two different characters!
Kong: Skull Island
Godzilla: King of the Monsters
Godzilla vs. Kong
(1) None of the world-shaking stuff that happened in KotM (except for Ghidorah’s skull, covered below) had any bearing on the events of GvK. But if GvK had come before KotM with a different character in Madison’s role, then maybe the Monsterverse writers wouldn’t have unceremoniously retconned the entire “new age of monsters” ending and the other future story material that KotM offered.
(2) If GvK had come after 2014 but before KotM, then: (a) …everyone assuming that Godzilla’s turned against humanity would’ve been a lot more forgivable, since his true morality would be a bit more questionable before KotM. And (b) Apex’s mission and ideology would have fit in with and reflected the zeitgeist of anti-Titan and anti-Godzilla fear and anxiety that came after G-Day, before KotM proved that Godzilla is defending the world and that humans and Titans can coexist symbiotically. Apex and MechaG’s failure at the end of GvK could’ve made the government desperate at the start of KotM when they’re trying to take over Monarch and make the Oxygen Destroyer. All in all, this version of GvK would’ve reflected the fear and panic that the world finding out about Titans inspires, before KotM’s story sees humanity start to come to terms with their terrifying but incredible new world.
Honestly, Apex’s actions in the canon timeline coming RIGHT on the heels of the post-KotM coexistence just makes me wonder WHY Godzilla keeps giving humanity at large so many “get out of jail free” cards.
(4) KotM’s giant monster cast, Mass Awakening, having a bigger and more powerful Big Bad in Ghidorah than GvK had in MechaG, its explicitly world-ending stakes, Mark and Serizawa’s interactions with Godzilla and the military aiding Godzilla… all that makes KotM feel like a season finale. GvK on the other hand feels to me more like it fits a lot better as a standard mid-season episode, with the much lower number of monsters, lack of a global apocalypse and with where Mechagodzilla ranks on the power and threat scales.
(5) The whole “Kong Doesn’t Stand a Chance Against Godzilla After What He Did To Ghidorah” meme in the leadup to GvK’s release. Would’ve been completely avoided if GvK had come first before KotM, and there would’ve been more ambiguity to whether Godzilla or Kong wins the title clash with KotM having not yet come and gone. Godzilla fighting Kong could’ve been Godzilla’s stepping stone to fighting the even more powerful Ghidorah in the next film.
(6) HOW I’D TACKLE GHIDORAH’S SKULL IN THE STORY IF GVK CAME BEFORE KOTM - The reveal that MechaG’s telepathic Titan skull came from Ghidorah would be reserved for the Stinger. Maybe there’d be Monarch scientists sweeping in to take the skull after the conflict’s over, and they remark on how the skull looks like a dragon, and how the Titan it came from was around in ancient times. Cue a shot on a tablet or screen depicting a three-headed dragon, setting up Ghidorah’s appearance in the next film. (The idea being that in this version, the skull came from a head that was cut off and regrew in ancient times before Ghidorah was frozen.)
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