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Triggered much old fella? 

You are full of shit. Not all women, not even CLOSE to all women.. not even a significant minority of women, call heterosexual intercourse RAPE. NOT, the actual neurological processes, the way electrons fire off in the brain, the way we think memory works... is NOT different between men and women, no matter what structural differences, and those differences are commonly held by most experts to be less compelling than the similarities of neurology between the genders. 

Boomer? Yeah, I am GenXer, so YOU ARE a Boomer, even if you are an early X'er too.... simple. 

You are paranoid as fuck ya tool. No, 9,000,000,000 are NOT CLAMOURING FOR WAR... most people DO NOT WANT THAT, they want PEACE, it is just your skewed perspective. In a world MAGA morons and Hard Right reactionaries are given platforms through technology, these things seem real. THEY ARE NOT... the world is at more peaceful now that ANY TIME IN HISTORY. 

Also, NO, we are doomed long before even 1000 years if people like you had your way.. but fortunately, we are NOT allowing that... we are doing something about it. The US might be going backwards, but the rest of the world is taking the task of healing the planet a lot more seriously, and combine that with the 'Long Peace'.... we SHOULD, so long as we let people like you die out... manage 10000 more years just fine. 

And can you please stop quoting Every Child? That did not exist in Australia. My English is good because I am NATIVE SPEAKER, does NOT MAKE ME AMERICAN. Jesus Christ, talking to you is like confirming every negative stereotype about the place though. 

All you have done, is successfully convince me you ARE a tiny dick sociopath. 

You have no understanding of what the word theory means scientifically, you espouse contested talking points as facts, and you ignore anything you find inconvenient and claim that it is not a fact, so does not matter, just what this feminist sucking snowflake lesbian lover thinks, right? 

God, it like every Mano-sphere goon social media personality that shows up on my facebook or YouTube in one manifestation of unjustified rage. Sorry the world has moved beyond your privilege and entitlement, and others have more voice and profile now..... but that does not mean you should be so angry, but fuck me dead you seemingly are. 

Also, I am not gay, but considering how confidently you use the term Faggot... I think I know what kind of person you are, I know what you'd call me if I told I was black, for example. 

And you call me Pathetic? 

I am done, you are disgraceful person. You should be ashamed of yourself... but you've shown your ignorance, and I suspect that means too ignorant to even be that. 

Cannot wait, love this game, and my sweet muscle mammas

Talk it up big guy. 

If you graduated college and think misogyny and conservative middle America bullshit is good.... ma and pa and apple pie and leave it to beaver coca cola patriots day circle jerk brainwashing is the America you want, then I guess college failed you, and you should hand in your degrees. 

The scenarios you present are both simplistic and contested, and your are wrong about the absoluteness with which you proffer the argument. 

Higher functions, neurologically speaking, bio-chemically speaking.... might have variances based on the biochemistry, Testosterone levels V Estrogen levesl.....   though everyone has both.....but the base emotions, the base instincts, the based thought processes and the way the brain transmits data... is THE SAME for ALL HUMANS. 

But feel free to cite IQ... as contested as that is. Feel free to cite University education, even if that is a reflection of socio-cultural and economic factors that do not correlate to IQ at all. Feel free to espouse tenuous talking points which are not universally accepted, and deny the effects of millions of years of evolution, both physiologically... but also socio-culturally among human kind. 

Given some of the idiocy you are espousing, I can understand why you might cite prehistoric justifications for your arguments. 

And NO... I did not grow up with the Internet, I did not even own a computer until I was in my mid 20s, and NO, I was not a product of policy you cite, as THAT IS AN AMERICAN POLICY, but as I would expect from your replies, you've gone for the American Defaultism so common online. 

I do not know what Twitch is, or a Thot, and that you KNOW those terms my 20 something nephew has to decode for me, because I do NOT, makes me wonder. You used the word Simp before, too.. again I had to look that one up. You are talking 'meninist' terms like Alpha and Incel and shit, things, again, I do not even understand because that is NOT PROPER ENGLISH, though to be frank, as an American, I am not surprised you use made up words. 

I do not have a PhD, what are you talking about? Why would I claim that? Do you kids lie like that all the time these days? Also, I have heard of Dr Phil... but I have never seen his show, again, it was not really a thing here, but again, you make assumptions and your American defaultism means you did not anticipate this, but it does take some the bite out of your lame attempts to talk smack. 

As for Rosie.... I did not like that I was being guided to be with a gronk fugly... even guided... and turning her down, might make her upset.... I do not get what you do not understand? Having to hurt someone, first thing, in a game.... especially and AVN is a dickish move by the dev, and should not have been a thing here. Simple as that. I play AVNs that are Harem or Poly, and was told this game WAS. THEN I SHOULD BE EXEMPT FORM THAT SHIT. Not sure how that is so hard to figure out? Again, are you sure you have two degrees? 

Mate, you sound like a bitter, insecure, neo-con goon boomer, and it is hilarious, but also a little sad. 

Oh, btw, the likelihood of Arc ship colonization, of the kind your tin foil brain envisages, is pretty much not going to happen, or be pointless if it does... since the Speed-Time Exponential Curve theory is pretty much agreed upon by most astro-physicists and aerospace engineers as a solid reliable theory, and Arc ships would likely be redundant. In fact, there is even a theory as to when the prime, optimal, time would be for us, to attempt to launch a near lightspeed ship..... about .. what... 1100 years from now, give or take. THAT ship, would make it anywhere before ANY colony ship. 

Learning to consider the world from the view of others, learning the matters and issues and hurdles that others face, is not an attack on you. It might check your privilege, and to Heteronormative, Cis Male, White Boomer American man, THAT might FEEL like an attack... but you need to let go of that all that rage and hate friend. 

As I said, I am no kid, and if I am not your age, or older, I would not be too many year behind.... but I have a feeling that you are the far more grumpier angry old man, between the two of us. I would feel sorry for you, but you have two degrees, so I guess you are smart enough to change, and not to do so, is a choice, right? In which case, OK boomer? IDK what to say, maybe a penis enlargement might help you? To be as insecure as this tripe you've spewed demonstrates you to be, I think that might be something which really helps? 

Can we ge some more hosting.......   I downloaded from Mega.... but it spazzed out.... so I had to download it AGAIN... but then I have exceed my free mega DLs, so was told it would take three hours+

Went to Google.... there was too much of a queue... and I could not download..... and still cant. 

I was looking forwards to this update, but Mega is a crap-shoot, and Google requires you to get lucky half the time, or it will tell you there is too many people trying to download or the file is too big.

You're talking to me like I am younger than you, but I am probably older. I have produced plenty of.... testosterone.... in all kinds of women, or all over all different parts of them.....  and I have found MOST women, are not inspirations for Jerkish behaviour, quite the opposite. Even in long term relationships. Though I admit I have only had a small number of those, third now, been years, first two ended by circumstance even "love conquers all' mentality could NOT conquer. But the reason they lasted and last still in the third case, is women are glorious, just flawed as much as men are. 

Sometimes it can be just too confronting to strip away the everything, and realise that PHYSICALLY, not even just physiologically, women and men are closer to the same than different. There's a blob of rubber squishy stuff called a brain, with all these tentacles coming off the tail it has called a spinal chord, called nerves.... and that is what the rest of our body IS... a carriage come life support machine.....solely evolved to keep that alive. Strip away the chassis, and women and men are both the same. One is slightly different physically, governed by certain chemicals over others because it is designed to procreate, gestate, and incubate, then give birth, the other is designed to inseminate.... but that bloody bit, and the tentacles ... are what we all are.. men and women... and the thoughts inside that blob, the animus, the 'Soul'... is the same for a woman, as YOU. 

Realising that, unless you can call yourself perfect, you soon see the nonsense the meninist types go about in regards to women being to terrible, as idiotic. 

Irrespective of what Rosie IS, she makes her thoughts clear, she is chasing you, and has feelings for you, and wants more. 

When confronted with a person making any effort for you, even a stranger you have only met in that moment, if it is NOT your instinct to care about their well-being, so long as YOURS is not threatened and that is a priori understood....then yeah, I question your heart, sorry. 

Even for a game character, even in a game which I barely care about, even having only played it once and almost forgotten everything about it.... when confronted with that stimuli, in that scenario, I would appreciate options which allows me to avoid having to take an action which would be hurtful to someone, when it is in a scenario whereby I cannot be sure they deserve it or know if there was any other way. Not if the only choice to is to take that action, or be constrained by NOT taking it... which being tied down by a preordained LI in a game like this, DOES most of the time. 

And yes, I DID expect a game with a HAREM path, to BE ungated, without consequences. When it was NOT, I rated this game negatively for it. So what? YES, YOU ARE RIGHT, I EXPECTED THAT... and?  

For me, if a AVN is an AVN, all the adult content either needs be ungated, or guide you towards the flags which ungate it. So if it is a Romance AVN, that content might be consequential, and some what gated.... but then it should also be guided to a degree (a game like The Neverwhere Tales is TRASH because it SO PUSHY and constricting, and forces you to have limited scenes, with ONE love interest, and makes you pay a cost often even for doing that... but it definitely guides you, and makes it clear this aint no Harem or Ploy thang.... where as a game like Artemis, IS a monogamy romance AVN... but NEVER makes that clear, and in game, is BRUTAL and savagely hard locks paths and deadends gameplay for ONE slip up... making it even TRASHIER because that shit is SCUM CENTRAL, by POS devs if it does that).......OR.... if it is NOT a Romance AVN, but HAS a Poly path, or full Harem ending.... then that should be accessible SOLELY on the basis of your efforts with each LI.... without ANY drama or uncomfortable moments.... sorry, that is my position (so a game like College Bound is a failure because there is a definitive POLY pathway to a degree.. but you are stuck with a preexisting partner you have to wait to go full Space Cadet level tard, before you can be rid of her on HER terms, without being a C*NT.... but a game like Where It All began is MUCH better... well it has F all content atm... but narratively speaking... because whilst you begin the game with an LI, you can immediately suggest an  OPEN RELATIONSHIP, which SHE ACCEPTS, avoiding the BS drama and consequences). 

I will NOT play ANY AVN which DOES NOT have at a minimum a POLY path, and that is why I played this one... I pretty sure posted somewhere and asked was it Romance or Poly/Harem and was told it can be either.... so this shit is a SIN for such a game.... subjectively, YES I PERSONALLY expect that NOT to be a concern in ANY game even with OPTIONAL POLY or HAREM pathways. Create your Drama some OTHER WAY if you are going to make a game with THOSE pathways open. If there is those consequences, and that drama, and you as a player need to be confronted with emotional consequences, that BREAKS the Harem/Po;y fantasy... so you actually DO NOT have a Harem/Poly game... it is a gimmick, my like Dilemma of Devotion, a game where there is technically such pathways, but taking them fucks you over and ruins the game and locks you out of completion.

And NO I did NOT jump at the chance to date a munted gronk like Rosie, one of the least attractive tubby fungus LI's in ANY AVN.....  you want to run at me like you are some sage, and have game, but you found her attractive just because of engorged udders... you are the pleb, sir, not me. Like so many guys I know of limited class and character, who have limited standards, you will literally fuck anything. 

I will not, which is the OTHER reason I hated being forced in to Rosie's arc from jot.... if she was actually attractive, I might not have minded, but most of the girls in the game are 5 or 6 at best... and she is a fucking 3. But you call ME a Simp? 

Take a walk snapperhead. 

I guess you've been unlucky. I dont know what to tell you. 

Why is this game not listed here, I clicked the link, but it leads to popup page

IN WESTERN culture, and the English language, NTR, or Netorare, is synonymous with Cuckolding, which in turn, is commonly, in modern sexual fetishism, seen as meaning in the presence of the Cuck... that is, watching his partner taken by another. 

In Japanese culture, it is describing where a character's lover or partner is seduced by someone else, leading to themes of betrayal, jealousy, and heartbreak. 

The Hooker is NOT the MC's Lover, or Partner, or Wife, just someone he felt sorry for, and had sex with once... I do not class that as 'Lover' or 'Partner'.... and he is not present when she works, watching, and she is NOT SEDUCED by ANYONE, it is TRANSACTIONAL, she offers her body for MONEY. 

IN NO WAY is this Arc NTR,  You are only right in saying it is not up for debate. It is not, you are wrong, simple as that. 

I am not a cuck, or a simp, I am just mature enough to understand most of the time, you are NEVER the first man to fuck any woman you sleep with, and most of the time, until you are in an expressly committed relationship, mutually agreed upon... she is likely fucking someone else too. 

THAT is reality. 

The implication of women being property in your position, is terrifying. I bet you think YOU OWN THEM once they fuck you once right? 

Take a walk snowflake, what a fucking sissy prissy little wimp you are. 

Oh fuck off, your precious little bitch. Ewww an evil Prostitute.... did widdlle joo get hurted? 

STFU you morons.

NTR is when someone you are with, gets with someone else, in your presence. 

We, the MC are NOT 'with' this character. 

We as the MC do NOT see her have sex with anyone else. 

We are not, therefore CUCKED, and this is NOT therefore, NTR. 

If you live in a world where you imagine the women you've had sex with, have NOT had sex with anyone else, you are delusional, and snowflake, who should just STFU or go eat a bag of cement and harden the f*ck up. 

The only people who will not play a game with a prostitute as a character who happens to be a LI, are sheltered, egomanical, snowflakes. The Dev is under NO obligation to TAG this as having content it DOES NOT HAVE, to appease the whiny little snowflake bitches that are so easily triggered THEY SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING THESE GAMES, like you. 

Literally NONE of the ones people claim are worth JUST the story, have proven been to me. 

Some of the most 'famous' of the 'story rich' adult games out there, like Being A DIK, or Acting Lessons, or Leap of Faith, or .... any.. I mean I could name at least 10 more I tried for rave reviews.... and they are all FAILURES. 

People like to try that old chestnut "Adult does not just mean porn".... but in GAMING, certainly in Game retail/hosting.... it DOES. 

I can name perhaps 30+ games, marque products from AAA+ studios, which deal with any combination of sexuality and sexual theory, depression and assorted other illnesses mental, suicide, homicide, assorted trauma and the causes, r*pe, CSA, CV, slavery, violence of all kinds, organized crime, systemic corruption, drugs and the causes and damages of drug use, and every assorted fetish and kink you can imagine... which DO NOT have 'Adult' or 'Sexual Content' or 'NSFW' tags on game sites, or warning labels of a kind on hard copies....    ....because ADULT in this sense, DOES MEAN EXPLICIT SEXUAL CONTENT. 

Often times, in MANY jurisdictions, that is a LEGAL definition, and WHY they must HAVE those tags available to devs and studios on their sites. 

So that old 'its not that kind of game' is weak and wrong argument... the A part is ESSENTIAL and what sets an Adult game apart from any others. 

So if it is a game like Acting Lessons with almost NO sexual content.... then the guy should have just CUT IT, used symbolism, shadow play, implication, retrospective confirmation, or just good old FTB, all the tricks of old Code Hollywood... and the story would NOT have changed, been the same. That fails as an AVN. 

If it is a game like Being A DIK where there is a 'nature of the MC' system... but that does NOT open up any other way to play, no matter what, even being a Dick, and not a Chick of the DIK's....but rather you are still hemmed in to a monogamy Romance story, with limited sexual content.... that too fails as an AVN. 

If it is even a game which is kind of epic on all other metrics, like Nephilim, but has appalling sex scenes, in a game otherwise so good, they should look like they were made by Michael Ninn or Mario Salieri... but instead look like some early 80s, videotape, carpeted wall garage, amateur smut lords cheap shit made to sell out of a van or in the classifieds of B grade porn mags... which unfortunately that game does.... THAT fails as an AVN. 

If the game is one like Artemis, where it is never made clear you are playing a monogamy romance, and all the adult content, even it being plentiful and of good quality, is locked behind narrow pathing there is no in game direction on, whereby also ONE misstep can hardlock and dead end access to not just some, but almost ALL content.. which can happen in that game... that fails as an AVN. 

I have only every played a small number of Adult games, which actually have amazing stories, and WORK as AVNs, and what made them worth playing, was the fact the devs CLEARLY cared as much about the Adult content, as the rest of the game, and KNEW what an AVN is, understood that A part is at least AS important as the rest. And went the extra mile to make sure there was both excellent quality, and quantity of sex scenes. 

Games like Ripples, and Eternum, games like Pale Carnations, and Oppai Odyssey, and of course, games like this. 

Most games on Steam of this kind, are dismal failures, which is why Itch is my go to source. Here you have more diamonds than chunks of coal, but on Steam it is, sadly, the other way around. 

Is this also pregnancy focused? That was the one thing which ruined the first game for me.. that pregnancy was NOT optional. 

The last half dozen scenes being with forced pregnancy, women all distended by it.... was not great.

I also really felt SHOW, DONT TELL, applied to the epilogue scenes.... every woman who joined the Harem, should have had a mini chapter dealing with their integration in to it, and with a hot H scene finish... but I would not even consider THAT a black mark against the game... but the inability to turn off pregnancy, even if that is the Kink of the game, was a crusher. 

However, if THIS game is NOT going to force my harem to get all distended and fat bellied...  then I might still give it a try despite my bad experiences with the last game. 

OK ... I got a point in the game which made me rage quit.... because there was NO OBVIOUS PATHS to me. 

After the raid Torsten covertly manipulated in taking place, and the skull and bones wearing goblin things attacking....  from that point on.... there was a whole lot of things which COULD have happened... but there was NO CLEAR PATH to them happening. 

I could have gone somewhere with Astrja, and met her real mother. Apparently (also I could have slept with her in the Ice Cave Castle thing... but the option f*cking greyed out, with NO REASON)....I could have been informed Lizgard was leaving and she said goodbye to me... but whatever made that option happen was missed to it did not.... and.. and... I cannot even effing recall.. like... f*cking half a dozen things... and also.. after saving her life, the date, and making her happy... I still got nowhere with Sonja.. nothing increased. 

I am f*cking stuck with Astrid... and I do NOT WANT ASTRID.... I want every other woman in the game aside from Astrid. 

BUT there was NO OBVIOUS paths to them.... the choices never tell you what they do... what they lead to.. like ALL GOOD AVNd DO, and pursuant to that, I am hours deep in a game where I have only slept with one chick... ONCE... and it is not even the one I want. 

I understand why a path like Mathilde would close if you chose Astrid/Astrja over HER when she is confronting the Carpenter.... though IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THERE, there should have been more obvious ways to seduce her and make her compliant than I seemed to have found.... but OK... make me choose. 

But everything was going well with EVERYONE else, including the main Sisters.. not JUST Astrid... BOTH.... from what I could tell... but apparently that was not the case.... making the most genuine, logical, good, respectful, caring and considerate choices one can make... which was my go to, since I always had to roll back when I tried anything else... lead to me losing multiple people from my game, and loosing my relationships with many too even if they are still around. 

BUT I DID have to rollback, MOST of the time, I tried any choice or action that was NOT realistic, nice, good, moderate, and considered. 

I am done, but I avoid the savaging I would normally give a game like this, in my rating and review... I will ask this question: IS it actually POSSIBLE to keep everything and everyone somewhat centred?  Is there CHAD MC FIXES ALL path, is there Poly paths re relationships, is there a way to avoid losing huge amounts of ground with people even if you misstep once or twice? 

If there IS NOT, even if only one you have to replay over and over again to find, or luck out and stumble upon... but there is also NO obvious way to predict an outcome of choices... then as cool as this game is, and the story, and the graphics, and the hot women.... it is still a disappointment. 

I played through a fair bit of this game, in fact all there is so far, and there was quite a bit to it, but tbh, in the whole playthrough, I did not get one complete adult scene. 

There were some boobjob scenes, and oral scenes, and some heavy petting.... perhaps some thighs at some point.... but it was quite a bit of time playing, and NO full adult scenes? 

This game is interesting, and visually stunning... but it felt like it made a LOT of promises it DID NOT KEEP.

In fact, I felt like there were enough moments with .... ahem.. eye-patch... and ... streamer... and ... assistant.... that they constituted PROMISES. 

There was PLENTY of time for ONE of them to be KEPT. 

There is a story here, the title says it all.... that is to say, the conquest of our fair maidens IS NOT in and of itself the entire point, like some AVNs. Nor is the key hook some 'Chosen One' narrative surrounding the MC, with a sexual twist, which requires him to f*ck every woman he can to grow his power... something else that is not uncommon. But the thing is, in THOSE kinds of AVNs, were the sex is the point of the game, or there is sexualized narrative CORE to the story and development of the MC and his progress.... the downside is the slow burn pacing and the hardcore gating of the adult content because otherwise the game could end after half an hour. 

In a game like THIS, where that is NOT the case.... I really cannot see why so many Devs gate the adult content until deep in to the game, or even late early game. The argument might be that there is a tease side for the anticipation, and if things are given up early, that leaves nothing to look forwards to.... but that is ONLY ever the case if the conquests are a 'one and done' type deal, you get with one woman, and then move on to new one. Some games DO go that way.... but they are TRASH games. 

This game has a story independent of the deepening sexual relationships between the MC and certain women in his life, those women and bedding them, are not key gateways to the MC's development and progress, and sure as hell hope they are not meant to be single serve encounters.... which means I really should have seen what the adult content looks like, in FULL, by now. 

I understand this game is not finished, but still, that is a big red flag for games like this, tbh. Usually it means either A: the dev does not consider the A part of AVN as important as the rest of their game... or B: is going to back load the adult content and most of the game is going to be very limited in the amount there is. Both of those things ruin an AVN in my opinion. 

The former becomes weakness of the game, because the better the game, narratively, better the writing, and better the visuals, better the overall package... and this is overall great.... the more it HURTS the game when adult content is mishandled through its brevity, poor quality, or continued absence... and this is likely to happen if the Dev does not consider at least AS important as the rest of the game. The latter, well that is even worse, that makes me personally feel like it dog and bone tactic... a dev feeding crumbs, and promises, to make sure everyone plays their game right through, and if you are good little player, and get deep in to the end game, you get the honey. 

I truly hope all that teasing was all there is, and from here on going forwards, there is reasonable amount of adult content, full, explicit, at a reasonable per hour of play metric. This game deserves that. 

Not a bad start. 

Seems wasteful though, a bit of good gameplay here, but hot women, and AVN, and the only scene was a dream scene...  well I guess the...,. arrow...scene.... was precluded by a scene... but that one was not interactive. 

If this goes along at this rate, with this quality it will be a great game, I am hoping the quality stays this sharp moving forwards. 

But is the Adult content aimed at being a monogamous committed relationship ending with ONE love interest (Romance), or a romantic ending with anyone you wish independent of each other (Polyamorous), or can you bring all 9 love interests in to a collective, all aware of each other (Harem)? 

If the adult content and relationships are romance focused, and the end game pathway is towards that, for that element of the game... is that a hard locked and gated system... ergo, beginning with one pathway erodes, or even immediately locks out (or dead ends any already begun) another? 

I do not want to seem some kind of crass misogynistic chauvinist pig, but my major qualm with almost ALL of the AVNs I have played which go the Romance path in relation to the adult content, is they expect you make uniformed decisions based on a few emotional moments.... and... well... to be blunt... expect you to buy the Cow, without tasting the Milk, if you will. Whilst I am down with the old saying 'If you want the milk, buy the cow".... my position when there are multiple cows to buy, I expect to taste the milk of each, at least once, but preferably couple of times each before I make that purchase :P 

So many Romance AVNs which are basically 'Have and adventure, find your soulmate by the end' type deals for the most part.... expect you pick that soulmate off only the interpersonal interactions, emotional and cerebral ones...but if you pick a soulmate without knowing what she goes like whilst screaming your name, calling you Daddy, as she's getting tenderised by the savagest slap-f*cking hate sex she's ever had, leading to the ultimate chokegasm that makes her cumtarded for a month....then I think you'd be a schmuck. In fact, that kind of failure of due diligence IS WHY DIVORCE RATES ARE SO HIGH :p

So  if I am getting down to jump in to a Romance AVN, at the very least, I like to know I will have plenty of experience with all aspects of the potential love interests, including considerable carnal experience, before I choose her and that end pathway. 

Romance, Poly or Harem? 

It does....and I do not begrudge it, so long as they remember they are AVNs not VNs.... I just get triggered a little when people try the old 'Thats not what Adult means' BS on me :P 

I think that games like this one here we're chatting about in the comment section of, are fine, I was simply speaking in general, that there are a lot of AVNs with almost NO adult content, what is there is short, poorly paced, angled, blocked, lit and often softcore, and seemingly something which is barely important to the story to the point the game could remove it altogether and nothing of the narrative would change. 

They then claim they are 'not that kind of AVN' and call themselves 'Story rich'.... and to that, I simply say... then you're not an AVN. 

I got nothing against something like Becoming a DIK, as much as I personally HATE that game, or games like that. Just the ones with almost NO Adult content, which throw in a bit of what Hollywood once called T&A Shots, for the ..... vibes... or something... because it feels like they are doing it for the same reasons Hollywood did back in the early post code days.... that is adding nothing to the story, but knowing sex sells and using it lure in punter to pay for a ticket. 

When is the gallery going to be added? Admittedly, there's perhaps four scenes, really, if we are only counting animated scenes, but I have played some really amazing AVNs lately, which have NO GALLERY, and it is really a core feature... I see this game has a tab for one, but then it just says it will be added later. 

This game is shaping up amazingly well, but a gallery truly should be added. 

I would argue that edgy, derivative, trope laden, pseido-seinen, cliches are not necessarily 'Something better'.... I will agree some TRY, but MOST FAIl.

The key is in the name. AVN.... notice the A bit? Sorry, but in GAMING, for the purposes of defining genre on sale and download sites, NO MATTER what people have tried to do to redefine it, ADULT, means SEXUAL CONTENT, GRAPHIC sexual content... in some jurisdiction, legally so. 

It does not mean Adult themes, like depression, suicide, murder, infidelity, other assorted mental illness, or traumas of assorted varieties, I can list for you right now, off the top of my head, easily 30+ games, many AAA+ releases by established professional game studios, that deal with such matters, and DO NOT have tags like 'Adult' or 'NSFW'. Because THOSE things, are NOT what those tags MEAN in gaming. 

People TRY to claim that these days, but that is NOT the case. 

So when you make an AVN, as opposed to a VN, then you are aiming to make a game with ADULT content in the gaming context. If you make an emotional romance, no harem, no poly, simple realistic story, focus on the drama between slice of life moments.... then you are likely going to have limited, and CRAPPY, sex scenes. You thus fail as an AVN. 

If you have all the cliche tropes of old school schlock AVNs, an OP Giga Chad Male-Dom, Master Lord, MC.... with token stoner/black sidekick, who's just moved home from somewhere to live with his ... landlady, and two female... housemates....whilst he goes to... 'College'.. even if it feels like high school... and starts a new job in... a modeling agency....whilst also being recruited by the Knight Templar... from the future... and the CIA, and Aliens because of his magic mutant psychic Chad power, born from his divineply blessed chosen penis......  and the game itself is poly AF with hard Harem pathways without consequence......  well... in THAT game it is MUCH easier to twist things, draw long bows, flirt with flimsiest, most tenuous justifications, and simplistic black and white naivety, to ensure the MC can get a LOT of sex, and thus have copious amounts of it. 

Each to their own, but sorry, to ME, the LATTER passes the AVN bar MUCH MORE COMPLETELY than the former... most of which, the former kinds of games, DISMALLY FAIL at being an AVN because the Devs want to make it something serious and 'not that kind of game'... and in the process F up what the AVN IS, what is THE most defining feature of the AVN, and separates it from the regular game using the VN format. To call them 'Better' is often times laughable. 

But that is just my view. 

Well, if your dad was a blonde girl, I can understand why you might be in that situation. 

Perhaps you could get a horse?

Not bad so far, enjoyed it, though something of a slow burn, and only limited adult content as of the moment, but could be a cracker when complete, here's to hoping it goes the distance and is finished, not abandoned.  

But in that case, you could be your own anything....   I would believe you, but you seem to be rather timid, if what you say is true... because you could not only be your own son, but your own grandpa, grandma, mother, and cousin Bob....  NO... YOU SHOULD BE... then it would be incestuous orgies all the time! 

DREAM BIGGER, you can do it ;) :P

I cant wait to see how the strong start progresses. 

Depends on what you want. What are the themes/kinks? What are the limits? What are you looking for? 

I think I have my profile on here viewable, I rated a whole bunch of games on this site, and some of the ones I rated highly you might like. 

Also, I do not know if you are here for free games, or not, but if you are not opposed to buying AVNs there's a few on Steam I can recommend, though actually, one of the best there is free too.

If you give me some notion of what you're looking for I might be able to help. 

If you're your own son, then every time you play this amazing game one handed, you are committing incest...     I am jealous!

Found it, but it is a female protagonist... ewww.. I am all about that OP Maledome Giga-Chad MC life yo! Even for Elves :p

FUCK YES

"Many many years ago, when she was 23, Darci married a sweet widower as handsome as can be.

 This widower had a growed up son who had the hair of red, Gabby fell in love with him and soon the two were wed. 

That made Gabby her daughter in law and changed her very life, her mother was her daughter because she was her step-sons wife. 

To complicate the matter even though it brought her joy, Darci soon became the mother of a bouncing baby boy. 

The little baby then became the brother of her step-Dad, which then made him her uncle, which made Darci very sad. 

For if he was her uncle, well that also made him brother to her very own daughter in law, who of course was Gabby, her mother. 

She's her own Grandma. She's her own grandma. It sound funny she knows, but it really is so, Darci's her own Grandma..."     

Um... wait... no... that is not what what is going I....

She was not her own Grandma, or Mother, it was simply a Darci from the future who showed up and guided them when they saved Gabby....  at no point is it hinted that she is her own grandma. Just like it is 99% likely the stranger at the portal in the mask is the MC from future timeline. 

That said, I HOPE Darci IS her own Grandma, and her Grandma is her daughter, and Gabby is our daughter, and we all have SEX. 

This update was amazing, short, but amazing. However, personally not sure ANY reasoning whatsoever could justify the.. lost love, becoming what they have become, green mask or not. 

Kind of upset with that, kind of not. On the one hand, I am always glad to be free of preordained love interests which one begins the game with, when it comes to AVNs, and now she is bat shit crazy, psychotic, and murderous, I can be happy she is gone. But on the other, we never did get anything of ... her... the one time she and the MC did do something... evidently, inarguably... it happened off screen, and she is hot :P So her being a despicable human being is somewhat unfair. Because personally, now, as a player, I will not be able to enjoy anything which ever does happen with her :P :P :P :P :P 

I guess this is tragedy, in some ways, though, so I hope the ending is the MC has a chance to kill, and DOES, her. for what she did to him, and what she became (yeah, I am sure this is a hooker with a heart of gold type scenario, and there's all these reasons for her being who she is.... but meh, after the .. implants scene, IDGAF, she has to take a week to die screaming, for the sake of Goodness in the world, and I mean the REAL world even).

Will old saves work with the current version? I just tried to load a Save from .25, and got crash and error log.

Seems it was JUST auto saves for some reason. Loaded a older manual save after trying a couple of auto saves, worked fine. After that, auto saves then worked fine too. 

It;s downloading VERY slowly for a direct download, and it does not seem to be my end, but thanks, I'll try again soon, see if its just a momentary thing. 

Where's the Windows OS link gone? This says MAC, but I have this for Windows.....         I would love to able to UPDATE.

Wow, AWESOME. I am was on V.25 so I guess I need to update!!!!! 

This game is AMAZING in so many ways, if the adult content remains as strong at is became in the ... morning coffee... scene....then the ONE concern I had about the game, will be redressed and this will be GOD TIER AVN. 

I cannot wait to see where this goes, and I truly hope you finish it, it is one of the most beautiful I have scene, visually, especially for one which does not seem to borrow assets from HxS2, and the characters, especially the MC, have some depth... and flaws.... and it is.... something of a crazy mess and I am SO THERE for it. 

Thanks so much for the reply. 

I already gave this game a 4 out of 5 star, 8 out of 10 review... mainly because of the adult scenes being the weakest part of the game at first... and this being an AVN, so to me, the A part being at LEAST if not MORE important than the VN part.... but even then, still not enough to lose more than two points out of a perfect 10, but now I will play the newest version and see what more is to come (if even just ONE of the promises made with Isobelle or Madison ... manifest... in this update, it will be a 100 out 10 game :P ... not to say I would not want more, from them and the others too :P but it would be heavenly enough to push it to perfection! Yeah am a creepy old sleaze, sue me :P ). 

Are we still in active development on this one? 

This game was pretty good, story was interesting.... but it ended with Elzabeth's introduction and breakdown. 

There seems to have been A LOT of PROMISES made with Madison, Isobelle, Paz, Madisons BFF, and even Anotnella with the reveal, that were NOT made good on. 

It also took until 'Coffee with Amber"... for their to be any Animation in the game. This is not a complaint, per se, but more of weighing of my options. Some games that wend up dead, are worth a reply for their abundant hot content up until the sudden demise. With things as they are with this slow burn, that is not so, considering how deep in to the game it got before much happened. 

I think this game is interesting, the MC is one of the MOST interesting of any, in any AVN I have ever played, and the visuals are STUNNING, I was concerned about the Adult content, until the first animated scene showed up, but that was well done, so I REALLY, REALLY hope this one is NOT dead. 

Following for now and HOPE we get a decent update some time soon. 

I normally prefer happy MFFFFFFFFFFLandLadyFFFFHousemateFFFFLandy'sLandladyFFFFFFianceFFFFinace's LandladyFFF anyway, so no loss. But Romance is a hard pass, thanks for the reply though :)

So a monogamy Romance kind of deal?

I really hope so. It would bring my cultural enrichment back in to harmony!!! :p

Wow, high IQ reply, this one. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh.....    I can't MAKE it, even if I did try to write it, so I do not think that possible.....  hence this all formatted as QUESTIONS, because the only Hero/Heroine able to answer, in this hour of need, is YOU, not I! 

It just seems like it could be waste to have such wonderful friends, who it might be strongly beneficial to be friends with......   go to waste as simply snaps shots in the moment, when, they could become .... well...um... important, yeah, that... to the MC's bedroo.... uh... life, you know? 

I of course do not know these answers, but Lord/Lady Cure, God/Goddess of Romantic Mermaid Fetish Erotic AVNs, well, they know.... YOU KNOW. 

I'm just saying, as I said :P