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I think an severely underrated perspective of the Traveler comes from Peach the ghost and I think she’s the best for being something along the lines of an atheist /lighthearted

Like you’re so right girl, we don’t know much about the Traveler and probably never will, so we probably shouldn’t make our speculations into divine scripture.

I enjoy how her criticism points towards the Traveler not being much of a god people would want, much less an all powerful god who is so wise and knows so much about what it’s like to be a sentient human/ghost/eliksni/uluran/etc., it can predict the future and create a perfect predetermined fate for everyone.

She’s also right that if you cling onto the idea that the Traveler is an omniscient being that can craft purpose, without ever considering other perspectives on it, you’d have to come to terms with the fact that it would be an intentionally massive jerk for its behavior (and you’ll probably want to cut away at the imperfections of your people and combine their will into a single being who will hunt it down)

And above all, she’s right that we really shouldn’t hold what we think the Traveler would want for us above what we want for ourselves and we shouldn’t hold narratives we crafted of it to fit our feelings towards it as a singular, indisputable truth. We live for ourselves first and foremost, not for the Traveler’s approval. It’s probably just as lost as we are.

Also in regards to some recent lore about her watching Osiris with strand:

I love, love, LOVE when Destiny drops what seems to be a throwaway line in lore that came out years ago, only to revisit it later and turn it into something meaningful for the future. I start jumping up and down when I’m able to spot connections to old lore, I love it!

Guys make sure you think about how awesome Peach is at least once a day and remember, be a gardener when it comes to other perspectives on the nature of existentialism/spirituality/religion/divinity! It is our ability to share how we perceive reality that helps us appreciate cultural similarities and differences, even if you don’t agree with them, which makes us stronger and helps us break down harmful, dogmatic thinking.

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A thought came across my mind lately.... Have Osiris and Saint-14 gone on their journey after Echoes or did I miss something? Are they coming back to us? Where are they 😭

AAAHHHHH thank you!!!! 🥺

Yes, they're very much still in the City; I'm assuming that if anyone is leaving the system on a journey, it'll be happening in Frontiers.

Peach is a Ghost that was first mentioned back in the Ghost Stories lore book from Forsaken. Absolutely essential reading for many reasons, especially to understand how Ghosts aren't sure about the Traveler either, and Peach asking the really important question about the Traveler which a lot of the fandom needs to remember:

PEACH: Do we, though? Just because we CAN do that doesn't mean we were MADE to do that. And who says it's a "she" anyway? Why does "it" need a gender?

That was her only mention, but she's become increasingly prominent recently, starting in Season of the Witch where she discusses Eris' Ghost Brya with Ophiuchus, Targe and Glint. This was kinda wild to drop Peach into because she literally only ever had one single mention and then they put her here with Vanguard Ghosts. Since then, she's also been prominent in The Final Shape as one of the Lost Ghosts quests from Micah-10 involved her.

But back in her first ever lore tab, Peach also said this:

PEACH: If I never find my Guardian, I'll go steal someone else's. I hear Sagira had a good time with that.

I've spent years since Sagira's death obsessed with the idea that Peach HAS to meet Osiris, and do what she said here, so this new lore tab from this episode one hit killed me. She could be such a good buddy to Osiris, someone to hover around and argue with him the same way Sagira did, but also to be someone he can bounce information to and be assisted with whatever he's researching. The fact that they actually put them together and very much implied that Peach isn't done bothering him makes me so happy because it just makes so much sense and I've believed this should happen for years.

Peach is a really cool Ghost, I would love to see more of her and I'm glad she keeps popping back into the story like this.

I accidentally checked an item on Ishtar that isn't available yet because I wasn't sure what is and what isn't and luckily for me it's not lore with any spoilers about the plot which is why I'm going to show it because I will never recover emotionally or physically from this. Because I've spent years wishing for this interaction to happen. Literally personally wrote it as well, that's how much I wanted this to happen. And now it did.

Again I don't know when this will be available in-game, most likely act 2 or maybe 3. But I am in complete shambles. Peach has been such a niche little lore-only Ghost character and then they slowly mentioned her a few more times leading up to TFS and in TFS and now this. And in her original lore, she was such a cool presence and made a reference to how she should do what Sagira did and steal someone's Guardian, so after Immolant I became utterly obsessed with the idea that she should meet up with Osiris and become his Ghost. Or at least his buddy. Because she's so similar.

And well.

*bursts into tears*

Also all the little details.

"Best part of having been inside the Traveler? I've got an argument to win."

Referring to the original lore where she had an argument with another Ghost about the nature of the Traveler.

Osiris learning stasis as well as strand. Her showing up on his shoulder. His "You're not-" (Sagira) (I'm on the floor).

"This is the start of something beautiful." PLEASE.

Incredibly niche detail but I'm so happy because PEACH IS BACK.

In Brya's Love scout rifle lore, several Ghosts discuss Brya, Eris' Ghost and what she was like. There's Glint (Crow's Ghost obviously), there's Ophiuchus (Ikora's Ghost), Targe (Zavala's Ghost) and... Peach.

Peach is an unpartnered Ghost that was only ever mentioned in one lore tab, back in Ghost Stories, called Difference of Opinion. This lore tab has been living in my head rent free ever since. It's about two unpartnered Ghosts, Peach and Balthazar, being interviewed about their opinions on the Traveler. And Peach is absolutely hilarious. Excerpts, but please read the whole thing:

Q: What is the Traveler, in your understanding? BALTHAZAR: Great question. PEACH: Terrible question.

She's immediately so done.

BALTHAZAR: We know she wished for us to raise Guardians to be her avatars and defenders— PEACH: Do we, though? Just because we CAN do that doesn't mean we were MADE to do that. And who says it's a "she" anyway? Why does "it" need a gender?

FAVE.

PEACH: Look, I know tons of Ghosts who died before they ever found their Guardians. I know some Ghosts who still haven't found a Guardian. You haven't. And I haven't, but I don't think I'm "incomplete" because of it.

Real.

Q: Do you remember being inside the Traveler? PEACH: No. BALTHAZAR: I do. We call it the Womb. PEACH: I have never and will never call it that.

HELP ME.

PEACH: If I never find my Guardian, I'll go steal someone else's. I hear Sagira had a good time with that.

This has been my unhinged theory ever since Osiris lost Sagira, but I think Peach should just steal him. Doesn't even have to be his real Ghost, but she should spend time with him for sure.

I have no clue why include Peach specifically with other Vanguard Ghosts (I'm counting Crow and Glint as Vanguard tbh). She's a Ghost with literally one mention ever, years ago. We are one step closer to Peach stealing Osiris.

Anonymous asked:

A couple minutes to the vidoc we see a guardian showing Osiris strand with a Ghost right next to him. I'm pretty sure it's meant to be our Ghost, but the fact that it's next to Osiris and facing us alongside him makes me hope Osiris has a new Ghost. Maybe not paired with him as a Lightbearer pair, but just a little buddy he's hanging out with.

Also we do see him in the background of one shot hanging out with a bunch of equipment, so he's probably gonna be Neomura's vender

I would love for Osiris to get a Ghost buddy or even multiple buddies. I think Ghosts should flock to Osiris and keep him company and talk to him and be study buddies. And his best Ghost buddy should be Peach from this lore tab. As you can see, I've thought about this before extensively and often.

Also yeah! He is shown standing in his little spot on Neomuna so he's definitely going to be a vendor or maybe a side NPC like Elsie on Europa. What that means for us, most importantly, is that WE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE HIM COOKIES FOR DAWNING!!!!!!!!

Presskit screenie of our grandpa :)

Whose your favourite less known lore only character?

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Hm, tough question. Not sure what also qualifies as less known to most people but some of my faves:

Lord Gheleon - love this dude. Completely unhinged, but also brilliant and good. Loves knives and bones, which I relate to deeply.

Quantis Rhee - One of the rare Nightstalker Hunters and Cayde's Nessus scout. Void users my beloved.

She knows how to roll black holes between her fingertips, and how to nock her bow with the inescapable gravities of the universe.
She is a Nightstalker. Out here—balanced upon the infinitesimal knife's edge—is where she truly belongs.

Love this lady. Please show us more of her, Bungie.

Tevis Larsen - another Nightstalker Hunter. I just realised I only listed Hunters. SMH my bias is showing. But anyway, this dude is technically not lore-only because he sort-of appears in D1 as a part of the quest to get the Nightstalker subclass, but I have to include him. Love his deadpan attitude and being frenemies with Cayde. Graviton Forfeit lore tab shows some of his views. Also love the fact that he's implied to be dead but also not dead? Atelic lore tab is implied to be from his POV, despite the fact that we found him dead in D1 and took his powers, but apparently he's aware of that (and chastises us in this lore tab: true legend).

To prevent from listing more Hunters, here's a Ghost I absolutely adore and which only appeared in one lore tab but I would die for her: Peach. Honestly no summary I could give would adequatly capture her vibes. You have to read this yourself.

Not a character per se, as far as we know, but definitely a concept I am most interested in and want to know more about very desperately is the Aphelion. It doesn't have much information, but from what we do know, it's a sort of a creature implied to be aligned with the Darkness that is highly dangerous, very aggressive and is capable of devastating attacks and unspeakable horrors. I am also pretty sure that's the creature the Drifter encountered on the ice planet. Naturally, I want to see it. Bungie please respond, I want to know more about Aphelion.

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