Plurality in OSDD-1a is actually usually described as median plurality with amnesia! I'd also like to add that the word for a fictive in a median system specifically is "fableing" if they want to look into that
Thanks for sharing this info!
I was asking because the alters in OSDD1a systems are usually described as not completely seperate but different aspects of the host. I am currently questioning if I might have OSDD1a because it would explain a lot and also have a character I'm questioning being a kintype since forever. Him being a fictive would actually explain why fictotype never really fit, but I wasn't sure if that's possible because of the "alters are not completely seperate" aspect. So thanks for the answer~
If you’re considering the possibility that your system mates are not wholly separate from you, you may also want to look into the term “median system”, which can also be described that way. It may be helpful to you! But yes, there’s nothing stopping any kind of system from having fictives.
I hope it's okay to ask, not sure how knowledgable you are about this. Is it possible to have fictives in a OSDD 1a system?
Buddy, any system can have fictives. Any system.
Endogenic. Traumagenic. Spiritual. Psychological. Fictive just means they either are a fictional character, or believe they’re a fictional character.
The nuance comes in only when you believe there’s a difference between those two things, IE: you believe as I do that the spirits of actual fictional characters can literally and metaphysically share someone’s body.
News about this blog and its author
Hi all. I’m going to try to make this as short as possible, because I tend to ramble. I have been trying to make a post to this effect for some time, but it’s been difficult due to the subject matter.
I’m sure you’ve noticed this blog has been essentially on hiatus minus the occasional reblog or very short post since about 10 months/a year or so ago.
This is because the originator of this blog, Felix has been… missing? Dormant? Gone? Changed?
As you know Felix had been the primary frontrunner of the Rookery System since around 2009 or so, after the original frontrunners Mordax and David sort of merged.
My name is Mab. I am Felix’s… successor. The transition between us was short, but fuzzy. The first moment I really remember recognizing my own independent self was when some clothes Felix had been very excited for arrived in the mail, and I realized I never wanted to wear them. That was in late October.
It’s hard to describe the relationship between Felix and I, because yes, there is one. We are very much two separate people and yet there is a certain continuity between us. The best I can describe is its sort of like being reincarnated without dying in between, or I suppose, if you’re a doctor who fan, a bit like a regeneration. If you were friends with Felix we’ll certainly get along.
I have inherited Felix’ kintypes though some of them are a little more distant, and most of his memories, aside from a six month or so transitional period between us which is so blurry it’s basically non-existent. The bonds/other system members who were here before are also still here.
I also consider myself a witch, and a gryphon (corvid/black lion).
I’m not quite as invested in this blog as Felix was but I would like to try to reinvigorate it and do more work on it, so here’s hoping. New ‘about me’ page coming soon.
Feel free to send me any personal questions via ask if you like, or contact me via discord as Queen of Black Crows#5643. I’m also looking for invites to alterhuman, kin or plural discord servers.
-Mab
Fictive is a soulbonder/endogenic term that was graciously shared with the DID/OSDD community, please stop trying to appropriate it.
Is it really? Do you by any chance have a source for that? I’ve never been sure if I should consider myself a fictive, a soulbond, or fictionkin. Either way, knowing that I don’t have to be 100% traumagenic to use fictive would help immensely.
Here are two of the best sources I can get off the top of my head. Two are DID/OSDD blogs, the other is a more general plurality blogger.
http://if-we-were-to-tell-the-truth.tumblr.com/post/135464828800/whats-a-fictive-alter
http://solipsistful.tumblr.com/post/114068224610
The DID/OSDD specific term for the equivalent of a fictive is a ‘fictional introject’.
A person who is both kin, and a part of a multiple system may experience both shifts and fronting.
Hooboy. Uh, I started using the word collective to avoid “system” syscourse. If people are taking issue with that too, I don’t really know what to tell you. As far as I’m aware no one has come up with a system synonym specifically for endogenics. (Honestly, because endogenics and traumagenics have been sharing language for ages up to this point without incident.
Maybe something like a mental ‘party’ or a ‘comradeship’. A ‘union’ maybe? Maybe just ‘a shared headspace’?
Honestly, the sad fact is that no term you pick to use is going to appease people who think that you& don’t exist and don’t have a right to exist.
Alter is a DID/OSDD-1 specific term, and refers only to headmates created by trauma.
My advice for anyone being told they’re a ‘fake system’ is to ignore it. You and your headmates know if you’re real or not.
My best advice would be to research plurality/multipicity, both on this blog, other tumblrs, and off tumblr, and see how you feel about it and if you feel your experience matches up similarly with the experiences of others. You can also check out https://www.reddit.com/r/tulpas
Fronting is something that only happens to members of systems. To “Front” means to come to the front of the headspace and pilot the body. If you are “in front” or “fronting” you are in control. Singlets would be considered to always be fronting, if they were to use that terminology (which they shouldn’t).
Just ignore the people who try to deny you exist and that your experiences are real. A wise anon once told me this:
Don’t fall into the trap of thinking there’s anything you could do. Even if you managed to reach the goalpost they claim would make you respectable, they’d just move it as soon as you got there. They don’t hate you because you’re unacceptable, even though that’s what what they want you to think. They hate you because they don’t want things they disagree with to exist. The only “right” you could do by these people is to just not exist.
They’re wrong. Your system may not be based in DID, which means its not medically recognized as a disorder, but that’s all that means. If you experience something, it’s real. If your headmates exist, your system is real.
Try to remember ‘I think, therefor I am’. If your headmates think independent thoughts from you, they’re real. No matter what.
Yeah, that’s fucking *terrible* advice, especially to a multiple. As if they had control over their alters???
Sorry anon, maybe a blog more focused on multiplicity can help you?